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| Well we have 13 players on duty today, I've been watch Leigh since 1961 and never know this, vey embarrassing , who is to blame.?Surely not DB some say he can do as he pleases , we can't have all these injuries can we ?What is the real reason?Will we find out?Even Charlie doesn't know.
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| Do you care ?
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| It's a bit late for anyone to care, obviously our Owner doesn't or the players would have been paid, and the Fans informed about the French lads going home,and other info which has been kept from us.
Myself and a good few others have voted with our feet, I will wait and see what emerges from the ruins of the seasons end in the weeks and months to come before deciding if I will get a season ticket next year.
As has been asked ,what has happened to the 500,000 k parachute payment, the 1.200,000 Central Funding money, the cash received from Bryson Goodwin,we reach the quarter finals of the Challenge Cup, yet can't pay the players, no wonder they are unhappy.
Do I care?Of course I do, but I won't waste money on travelling to Fev,and I won't be alone.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"It's a bit late for anyone to care, obviously our Owner doesn't or the players would have been paid, and the Fans informed about the French lads going home,and other info which has been kept from us.
Myself and a good few others have voted with our feet, I will wait and see what emerges from the ruins of the seasons end in the weeks and months to come before deciding if I will get a season ticket next year.
As has been asked ,what has happened to the 500,000 k parachute payment, the 1.200,000 Central Funding money, the cash received from Bryson Goodwin,we reach the quarter finals of the Challenge Cup, yet can't pay the players, no wonder they are unhappy.
Do I care?Of course I do, but I won't waste money on travelling to Fev,and I won't be alone.'"
Afraid we are probably with you, Ian. That really hurt today. If those in power at the club don't appear to be ar**ed about it, why should we? By the way, as for our central funding this season, I think it was £1.2 million in total, (i.e. including the £500k) but I thought that was paid to us monthly? If that is the case, we should still be getting £100k per month, of that funding.
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| Quote ="Alan"Afraid we are probably with you, Ian. That really hurt today. If those in power at the club don't appear to be ar**ed about it, why should we? By the way, as for our central funding this season, I think it was £1.2 million in total, (i.e. including the £500k) but I thought that was paid to us monthly? If that is the case, we should still be getting £100k per month, of that funding.'"
Interesting, if that payment scenario is true Alan
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| Quote ="ColD"Interesting, if that payment scenario is true Alan
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That's the way we used to get it Col - unless we requested, and were granted it, in larger tranches, or one lump payment?
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| Quote ="Alan"Afraid we are probably with you, Ian. That really hurt today. If those in power at the club don't appear to be ar**ed about it, why should we? By the way, as for our central funding this season, I think it was £1.2 million in total, (i.e. including the £500k) but I thought that was paid to us monthly? If that is the case, we should still be getting £100k per month, of that funding.'"
Thanks for the last paragraph Alan I normally never care about Finances as it's the Club's duty to sort out, but it's a question which has been asked previous.
I've not been since the Fev defeat when I saw you in the Car Park, and I don't regret not going, I never thought in a million years the season would end like this, it's worse than the Bell and Hart regime, and isn't over by a long way yet, sad to say.
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| Quote ="ColD"Interesting, if that payment scenario is true Alan
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Yep , so probably requiring another 1.2 million to pay out the season , possibly more
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Yep , so probably requiring another 1.2 million to pay out the season , possibly more'"
Really £2.5m to pay out the season
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| Quote ="ColD"Really £2.5m to pay out the season
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I'd say so about that yes , given a full time squad assembled as we saw
Why what did you assume ?
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"I'd say so about that yes , given a full time squad assembled as we saw
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Well about £1.5 on players but not another £1m on the rest
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| Quote ="ColD"Well about £1.5 on players but not another £1m on the rest'"
On a 3,000 attendance what would you assume we actually take through the gate ?
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"On a 3,000 attendance what would you assume we actually take through the gate ?'"
No idea, but I don't think that was the question was it - what do we spend the other £1m on
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| Quote ="ColD"No idea, but I don't think that was the question was it - what do we spend the other £1m on
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Coaches FT salary, conditoners salary, physio's , Director of rugby salary, player welfare manager salary, coach travel, food and drinks at work (ie FT training) etc etc.
Maybe not £1 million, but I would hazard a guess the Ex DOR was clearing approx £100k a season.
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"Coaches FT salary, conditoners salary, physio's , Director of rugby salary, player welfare manager salary, coach travel, food and drinks at work (ie FT training) etc etc.
Maybe not £1 million, but I would hazard a guess the Ex DOR was clearing approx £100k a season.'"
Well I work FT, why should they get food and drink - think it's safe to say we have paid over the odds in most areas, players, coaches, rent, loans
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| Quote ="Montyburns":31dztbnsI’m taking a break from this forum
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| Quote ="ColD"No idea, but I don't think that was the question was it - what do we spend the other £1m on
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"I wonder what Leeds spend the other 9.5 million on ?'"
I've no idea, nor do I give a monkeys. If you don't know and your that bothered bob onto their forum and ask em
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| My stab at costs, £1.6m squad, £180k coaches, £300k LSV incl training pitch and offices etc, £200k other staff, Travel, insurances, Physios, Doctors etc £150k = £2.4m ish
Income £1.25 central, £600k gate and ST's, £200k sponsorship, £70k lottery and LISA, £100k cup and friendlys = £2.2m ish
I would guess the savings made by shredding the squad balance the books, ish.
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| Quote ="maurice"My stab at costs, £1.6m squad, £180k coaches, £300k LSV incl training pitch and offices etc, £200k other staff, Travel, insurances, Physios, Doctors etc £150k = £2.4m ish
Income £1.25 central, £600k gate and ST's, £200k sponsorship, £70k lottery and LISA, £100k cup and friendlys = £2.2m ish
I would guess the savings made by shredding the squad balance the books, ish.'"
What about the transfer fee for Goodwin and then baptise of the books very early then we've got rid of a lot of wages for the last 10 or so weeks which must add up to quite a few thousand pounds
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| Quote ="maurice"My stab at costs, £1.6m squad, £180k coaches,=#40BF00 £300k LSV incl training pitch and offices etc, £200k other staff, Travel, insurances, Physios, Doctors etc £150k = £2.4m ish
Income £1.25 central, £600k gate and ST's, £200k sponsorship, £70k lottery and LISA, £100k cup and friendlys = £2.2m ish
I would guess the savings made by shredding the squad balance the books, ish.'"
So when the Miners played Oxford in the CC, the cost quoted was £3k to rent the LSV. That £300k looks a little vulnerable.
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| Quote ="atomic"So when the Miners played Oxford in the CC, the cost quoted was £3k to rent the LSV. That £300k looks a little vulnerable.'"
Do the miners train and rent offices at the LSV ?
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| Quote ="maurice"My stab at costs, £1.6m squad, £180k coaches, £300k LSV incl training pitch and offices etc, £200k other staff, Travel, insurances, Physios, Doctors etc £150k = £2.4m ish
Income £1.25 central, £600k gate and ST's, £200k sponsorship, £70k lottery and LISA, £100k cup and friendlys = £2.2m ish
I would guess the savings made by shredding the squad balance the books, ish.'"
£ 600k gate and ST ? , doubtful Niel , not after VAT and LSV cut , more like 400
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| There are 12 teams in Championship right ?
That's 11 home games at (best) an average of 3k per game & an average *see top of head spend of £20 p/p* = £660k + CC & play off Blue Peter Badge Final home games + sponsors + corporate + merchandise + 1.2M in central & parachute payments, then the sale of Bryson Goodwin to Wire on top *maybe if he wasn't sold this would all be academic* !
The squad was quoted by DB as costing £1.62M *does this include the 20 minute wonder John the Baptiste* ?
Somewhere these numbers don't add up, our income from all streams + the cost cutting of offloading many top earners & John the Baptiste after only 20 minutes, we should be ok should we not ?
So why is DB not paying players ?
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Do the miners train and rent offices at the LSV ?'"
Ste I'm not having a pop. But £300k compared to 30 games at £3k = £90k to rent the LSV. Are you saying the costs of training and renting offices per season cost £210k?
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