Col, I think even you know I mean no malice, I do love Leigh Centurions dearly.

If Charlie chats rubbish I’m sure, even though we probably don’t think it, most of the rest of us are in the same boat, but that’s our right.
So chat on Charlie, we all know!

In his initial statement, on 25 July, did our owner not promise a 'more detailed statement at the beginning of next week?' (i.e. the beginning of this week) https://leighrl.co.uk/wp/blog/2018/07/2 ... atement-2/ I note Harold's earlier explanation that he is waiting for the new structure to be announced - although goodness knows how that will impact on us, now, or when it is likely to occur! In a similar vein, we announced the signing of Brendan Elliott and another overseas' player, immediately before the initial statement of doom from our owner. Surely the club had an inkling then, that all may not have been well, and may have been better served not to make the announcement of signings? We seem to be very good at announcing positive news (and that's great) but less so at announcing the not-so-positive news. Meanwhile the rumour mill goes into overdrive! Personally, I would welcome a further statement on our situation.

In his initial statement, on 25 July, did our owner not promise a 'more detailed statement at the beginning of next week?' (i.e. the beginning of this week) https://leighrl.co.uk/wp/blog/2018/07/2 ... atement-2/ I note Harold's earlier explanation that he is waiting for the new structure to be announced - although goodness knows how that will impact on us, now, or when it is likely to occur! In a similar vein, we announced the signing of Brendan Elliott and another overseas' player, immediately before the initial statement of doom from our owner. Surely the club had an inkling then, that all may not have been well, and may have been better served not to make the announcement of signings? We seem to be very good at announcing positive news (and that's great) but less so at announcing the not-so-positive news. Meanwhile the rumour mill goes into overdrive! Personally, I would welcome a further statement on our situation.

Quote ="Alan"In his initial statement, on 25 July, did our owner not promise a 'more detailed statement at the beginning of next week?' (i.e. the beginning of this week) https://leighrl.co.uk/wp/blog/2018/07/2 ... atement-2/ I note Harold's earlier explanation that he is waiting for the new structure to be announced - although goodness knows how that will impact on us, now, or when it is likely to occur! In a similar vein, we announced the signing of Brendan Elliott and another overseas' player, immediately before the initial statement of doom from our owner. Surely the club had an inkling then, that all may not have been well, and may have been better served not to make the announcement of signings? We seem to be very good at announcing positive news (and that's great) but less so at announcing the not-so-positive news. Meanwhile the rumour mill goes into overdrive! Personally, I would welcome a further statement on our situation.'" I would say DB just wants out, but he's awaiting the final outcome. Ralph Rimmer stated in his interview " Its not all about the structure" It's about putting things in place that take the game forward to 2021. As I stated in another thread, I assume that will see a return to licensing now rather than 2022. Clubs not meeting the criteria now, have three years to meet it. I would imagine the current deliberation which would concern Toronto and Toulouse, as in what criteria should be set in order to protect them along with SL Clubs who also don't meet the proposed criteria at present.

Quote ="Alan"In his initial statement, on 25 July, did our owner not promise a 'more detailed statement at the beginning of next week?' (i.e. the beginning of this week) https://leighrl.co.uk/wp/blog/2018/07/2 ... atement-2/ I note Harold's earlier explanation that he is waiting for the new structure to be announced - although goodness knows how that will impact on us, now, or when it is likely to occur! In a similar vein, we announced the signing of Brendan Elliott and another overseas' player, immediately before the initial statement of doom from our owner. Surely the club had an inkling then, that all may not have been well, and may have been better served not to make the announcement of signings? We seem to be very good at announcing positive news (and that's great) but less so at announcing the not-so-positive news. Meanwhile the rumour mill goes into overdrive! Personally, I would welcome a further statement on our situation.'" I would say DB just wants out, but he's awaiting the final outcome. Ralph Rimmer stated in his interview " Its not all about the structure" It's about putting things in place that take the game forward to 2021. As I stated in another thread, I assume that will see a return to licensing now rather than 2022. Clubs not meeting the criteria now, have three years to meet it. I would imagine the current deliberation which would concern Toronto and Toulouse, as in what criteria should be set in order to protect them along with SL Clubs who also don't meet the proposed criteria at present.

Then, perhaps our owner could say just that? Surely, the RFL future deliberations were relevant, when our initial statement was made? Also, I can't see the future of the Game, being announced any time soon.

Best to just leave all speculation and rumours in the bin until something ' concrete ' comes to the fore , we have a match to attend next week , Sheffield again so hopefully another enjoyable game

Derek will let us know in good time

How can he? Surely, you aware of a possible structure change? As is he. The new signing was also reported on the official website,would you like another statement to show why thats failed? Or can't you see why it's failed?

Yes, I/we can see. So you reckon he can't say why his announcement is delayed. I don't see why not. However, publicity/PR is all about telling people things, rather than letting them guess. He made the statement saying that he would tell us more 'early next week.' He hasn't done that. Do you think that the future structure announcement is imminent? If so, can he not say whey his promised announcement has been delayed?

And yes, the 'new signing' was announced on the official website. That's my whole point - it obviously didn't happen, but nothing was said. As a club, we don't communicate all that well - in fact, when the news is 'negative', we tend not to communicate at all.

Spot on Alan.. As usual.

Why say an announcement will be made on Monday, then not make one. You could just say an announcement will be made in 'due course'

However, contrary to Atomic's view, I do not believe Derek wants out. Just that the level of investment required from him to maintain the current squad next year makes it 'untenable' from him alone. A substantial amount of future expenditure has since been removed from the wage bill.

The structure and more specifically a clear pathway in to SL for ambitious championship clubs will be the key driver.

The communication from the club is completely biased towards positivity, positive news is announced with a fanfare that there will be an announcement about an announcement of important news. Negative news, er let’s see, cannot be found anywhere.

Exactly my point reffy.

The thing is 'negative' (or apparently 'bad' news') can be used to generate positivity. I understand, and accept, that our owner has made a huge contribution to our club, and is probably working hard to find a way out of this predicament, for both himself and the club. I also understand that we are not entitled to know all the details of what has happened/what might be going to happen, but why make a public statement and then not follow up on it, as he said he would? There are probably valid reasons for not doing so. Maybe it would have been better to say nothing about an imminent announcement, or to simply say the follow up is delayed!

Thank goodness for the websites of the RFL, Cas, Leeds, Warrington & Hull KR, informing us of what had happened to our departing players!

I think we need to prepare for a reintroduction of DR's next season with no benefactor involved I just hope it ain't with wigoon again that was painful to concede.

This is the way I see it too !

But he can always use his next statement as an advantage to the one he didn't make. His next statement I presume will, start off with reasons for not making that statement along with a more in depth report regarding the situation.

Don't see the point in making a statement that states the follow up is delayed, when you already know that.

To be fair, he never said that.

To be fairer he said “at the beginning of next week”......
Monday is the beginning of the week isn’t it.

A simple statement explaining something like although a further statement was originally going to made at the beginning of the week, the situation is still being worked out to ensure the best for the club and a more detailed statement will follow ASAP.
It wouldn’t help us relax any but it would at least let us feel that all is not lost.

Clutching at straws VL. If theres nothing in the pipeline, why advertise it?

Ah, but isn't that exactly what DB did, in his first statement?

I should imagine DB is still in the 'loop' of a 'need to know basis' concerning all the clubs chairmen including those of the SL, on Backchat the other week Mr Elstone has already stated he has visited all 12 SL clubs for discussions, I am sure that some of the moot points of those talks have worked there way in Mr Beaumonts direction.
Most probably, and reading between the lines of Mr Rimmers interview when questioned about the structure he said "I am not of the liberty to say" he did not say that it has been sorted but did not deny that there had been a decision made, he indicated we will all know soon enough, he did say he had been involved in many constructive talks with Mr Elstone and they are working well together!
So, what do I make of this?
I believe that Mr Beaumont is privvy to what the next step is going to be, and how it is going to effect our club, from that he will also know how it effects the decision he must have already made, he will also be aware of any positivity or otherwise in his quest to "offload" his involvement to any other person or consortium, the timing of his announcement to me is critical to him personally, he could look like the rat that deserted the sinking ship, or leave with the majority saying "thanks for everthing you have done and tried to acheive for Leigh RLFC" or if the dice fall favourably his way concerning the restructure he may just stay.
Just a thought!

Let Derek go to Salford. I’d rather go part time and work our way back than be held to a random by a rich kid who treats us like a game of Championship Manager.

Quote ="Alan"In his initial statement, on 25 July, did our owner not promise a 'more detailed statement at the beginning of next week?' (i.e. the beginning of this week) https://leighrl.co.uk/wp/blog/2018/07/2 ... atement-2/ I note Harold's earlier explanation that he is waiting for the new structure to be announced - although goodness knows how that will impact on us, now, or when it is likely to occur! In a similar vein, we announced the signing of Brendan Elliott and another overseas' player, immediately before the initial statement of doom from our owner. Surely the club had an inkling then, that all may not have been well, and may have been better served not to make the announcement of signings? We seem to be very good at announcing positive news (and that's great) but less so at announcing the not-so-positive news. Meanwhile the rumour mill goes into overdrive! Personally, I would welcome a further statement on our situation.'" This has been a frustration of mine for a few years. In fact, since the board of management (or whatever it was called) became a sole owner, the communications from the club nosedived. Things like Penky's knee, Sam Barlow's back, Rangi's hip has led to people thinking there's something sinister going on any time a player gets injured. The club would've made their lives a lot easier with a bit of honesty. As for current situation, they could at least come out and say it will be revisited at the end of the season, no talk about investors can be made public etc... instead of announcing a non-existant announcement like they seem to keep doing.

Quote ="Alan"In his initial statement, on 25 July, did our owner not promise a 'more detailed statement at the beginning of next week?' (i.e. the beginning of this week) https://leighrl.co.uk/wp/blog/2018/07/2 ... atement-2/ I note Harold's earlier explanation that he is waiting for the new structure to be announced - although goodness knows how that will impact on us, now, or when it is likely to occur! In a similar vein, we announced the signing of Brendan Elliott and another overseas' player, immediately before the initial statement of doom from our owner. Surely the club had an inkling then, that all may not have been well, and may have been better served not to make the announcement of signings? We seem to be very good at announcing positive news (and that's great) but less so at announcing the not-so-positive news. Meanwhile the rumour mill goes into overdrive! Personally, I would welcome a further statement on our situation.'" This has been a frustration of mine for a few years. In fact, since the board of management (or whatever it was called) became a sole owner, the communications from the club nosedived. Things like Penky's knee, Sam Barlow's back, Rangi's hip has led to people thinking there's something sinister going on any time a player gets injured. The club would've made their lives a lot easier with a bit of honesty. As for current situation, they could at least come out and say it will be revisited at the end of the season, no talk about investors can be made public etc... instead of announcing a non-existant announcement like they seem to keep doing.

Back to where exactly ?

We're either starting with a point deduction or brand new in L1. Both of those situations require working back to full time and being competitive.

..........or transferred. It would have been nice to see a 'thank you and good luck' to the likes of Hall, Crooks, Bodene & Jordan Thompson, Mata'utia and especially Hansen