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| Quote ="Centurino"If true Monty, an even bigger insult to the fans -- to QUIT before it's mathematically over.
This constant nonsense being spouted in the media about loyalty to Jukes, loyalty to Cunningham, loyalty to players to pay them off big or let them find new clubs. WHAT ABOUT LOYALTY TO THE FANS, the club, the history and the future?
This stinks of a child wanting to be liked to boost an incredibly low self-esteem. I'll pay you crazy money on a long-term deal if you like me! Using the club as a vehicle to get emotional needs met in other words. It's an absolute car crash what we're witnessing.
What a squad we had last year, with many players now performing way above last years incredibly inept coaching level.
Fingers crossed HRJ wins the Euro on Friday, as now we really need it!'"
I think every Leythers is doing the Euro this week
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| Quote ="terrykelly"shouldn't that be WE ?
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100% NO. Beaumont, Cunningham and Management are THEY, not we.
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| It is a shame what has happened but you have to say that Derek Beaumont has given Leigh fans one hell of a ride.
If it wasn't for his money Leigh would have been (at best) on par with Halifax and Featherstone over the last few years. Leighs ability to compete with some of the big boys and the fans will have some great memories of the last few years.
In the end it looks like to keep the team going for another year with the same squad would result in a short fall of about £1m. There are very few people in the world that can afford to lose that kind of money and Derek isn't one of them.
His banter with Koucash did a lot to promote the game.
He could have easily pocketed the parachute money and had a toned down squad this year but every effort was made to go back up.
Others at Leigh, including players and coaching staff are not blameless. However they will pay for that with their jobs.
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| Quote ="WHERESYERBALL"Bang or Bust and that was never a way to run the club.
All those people who said that once Arthur Thomas passed away the club should never be allowed into the hands of one person again where absolutely correct.'"
This totally!!
I like everyone else have enjoyed the ride in going to SL and making a fist of it.
With a better coach and a well managed club we should have stayed in SL but that is all now history as we look to just exist next year as without backers the club will struggle..
I'm not sure why the consortium that came in to buy the club and put it on a level footing fell apart and allowed the risk that Derek would become purely the person left holding the clubs fate on his decisions(which have been well intentioned) as once that happened we became a risk.
Not knocking Derek as he's sunk a fortune in but the club cannot ever be allowed to be run by one person as when he gets bored or can't afford to justify the outlay then its shake the collection cans to save Leigh time.
I'm hoping a Plan B is in the pipeline as otherwise this club has learned nothing after going bust in what seems like a rolling 8 year cycle.
Worrying times ahead.
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| Would be interesting to know what the financial position is. The club was around £1.9m in debt at the end of 2016 It will be interesting to see if DB he rights of his personal debt (£0.9m) and the £1m due to his company. Much smaller amounts that caused MK to call it a day at Salford.
Will be a hell of a problem for new Board if he doesn’t. I wish you guys luck!
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| We will be going into liquidation I believe and starting at the bottom then the only way is up I will look forward to the challenge. These things happen in rugby it’s how we react
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| Quote ="JENKY"This totally!!
I like everyone else have enjoyed the ride in going to SL and making a fist of it.
With a better coach and a well managed club we should have stayed in SL but that is all now history as we look to just exist next year as without backers the club will struggle..
I'm not sure why the consortium that came in to buy the club and put it on a level footing fell apart and allowed the risk that Derek would become purely the person left holding the clubs fate on his decisions(which have been well intentioned) as once that happened we became a risk.
Not knocking Derek as he's sunk a fortune in but the club cannot ever be allowed to be run by one person as when he gets bored or can't afford to justify the outlay then its shake the collection cans to save Leigh time.
I'm hoping a Plan B is in the pipeline as otherwise this club has learned nothing after going bust in what seems like a rolling 8 year cycle.
Worrying times ahead.'"
If you remember Jenky, after Arthur Thomas we had the consortium of Derek, Andy Mazey and a few others. One by one they left to leave 1 sole in charge, remember the public spat between Derek and Andy. Derek wanted full control, rightly or wrongly. Now all gone pear shaped.
People were worried once that happened again after Arthur, lots said it was a bad idea. Now we know it was.
But you cant take away it was one hell of a ride.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Spot on
I have looked at the crowds Bradford have been getting recently and they are impressive, I think it was 6,000 for the York game,so it shows keep the faith .
I think we should look at Bradford as an example of what can be achieved,it's now important to get someone to take over then get a Coach and players who want to do well for the Club, not just for cash,it can be done.'"
It was a great attendance & I should add that I have had several very good & informative chats on the Bradford board when things were bleak at Odsal, however I hear it was also £5 a ticket & therefore would have generated about a 1/4 of the income a Leigh home game generates.
Further, you are right, Bradford have shown that at it's very worst they could fight back & deserve genuine credit for doing just that !
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| Quote ="Montyburns"We won’t make 8s we struggling for a side for Sheffield might just get a team together'"
I believe *see think* we had a squad of 28 before Paterika Vai-Vai & Larne Patrick departed, that takes us to 26 ?
If our 8 best players leave then it would leave only 18 registered, I could be way off with loan signings etc ?
Anyone have clearer knowledge ?
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"It was a great attendance & I should add that I have had several very good & informative chats on the Bradford board when things were bleak at Odsal, however I hear it was also £5 a ticket & therefore would have generated about a 1/4 of the income a Leigh home game generates.
Further, you are right, Bradford have shown that at it's very worst they could fight back & deserve genuine credit for doing just that !'"
Sorry but you are not 100% accurate with the £5 ticket claim. It was full price for most attending (York brought a decent amount over... 1k i'd say) but its true that there was some decent marketing to local schools too, which is how we built up the crowds back in the glory days (get them hooked young and bring mum and/or day too).
That aside, I don't wish anyone goes through what we've been through. Without knowing the facts of how much you actually owe, I'd hope that DB has caught it early enough to stop the rot but from what I'm told it will very much depend on DB's personal debt being written off.
Regardless of the outcome, in the trips over to LSV I've met some very good Leigh folk (and on this board too) and have every faith that Leigh will stay afloat and have its day again. You have too good a fan base to go down the drain.
Keep supporting and singing and hopefully we meet next year in the Championship. Best of luck!!!
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"I believe *see think* we had a squad of 28 before Paterika Vai-Vai & Larne Patrick departed, that takes us to 26 ?
If our 8 best players leave then it would leave only 18 registered, I could be way off with loan signings etc ?
Anyone have clearer knowledge ?'"
We signed at least 3 amateur players who playing for free upto now
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| Just like to say thanks for the last 3/4 years Derek , its been a blast , we were so unlicky on so many occaisions last year
All the best for the future , I doubt we'll find somebody as generous as your good self
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| Quote ="bullinenemyland"Sorry but you are not 100% accurate with the £5 ticket claim. It was full price for most attending (York brought a decent amount over... 1k i'd say) but its true that there was some decent marketing to local schools too, which is how we built up the crowds back in the glory days (get them hooked young and bring mum and/or day too).
That aside, I don't wish anyone goes through what we've been through. Without knowing the facts of how much you actually owe, I'd hope that DB has caught it early enough to stop the rot but from what I'm told it will very much depend on DB's personal debt being written off.
Regardless of the outcome, in the trips over to LSV I've met some very good Leigh folk (and on this board too) and have every faith that Leigh will stay afloat and have its day again. You have too good a fan base to go down the drain.
Keep supporting and singing and hopefully we meet next year in the Championship. Best of luck!!!'"
Nice words BIEL ....
Please don't take my £5 comment as a side swipe as it was never meant to be, just a post I saw on Facebook !
I really enjoy both the banter & the game day experience with Bulls fans & a small consolation (if we are not relegated by Administration) is that we will enjoy these games again next year, that + it would be nice to see some away fans & a 7K + crowd or 9K at Odsal !
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| Glad you've finally got rid of that poundshop Koukash, he was a disgrace to your club and rugby league in general. Hopefully you manage to get some humility back and develop a proper club over the next couple of years instead of the overpriced journeyman the clown brought in to try and buy success at the expense of the game
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| Quote ="Montyburns"We will be going into liquidation I believe and starting at the bottom then the only way is up I will look forward to the challenge. These things happen in rugby it’s how we react'"
Really gutted for you guys, the brief Leigh Bulls rivalry was fun, although DB and Marc Green tried to spoil it.
If you go into liquidation, I really hope you get a clean start, not the one that the RFL handed us, -12 points, no players and in the championship where we endured a horror season. If a liquidation I hope you are given a 0 point start in league 1, you then have a chance to build momentum with a squad of players suited to whatever budget you can cobble together
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| Quote ="Egg Banjo"Glad you've finally got rid of that poundshop Koukash, he was a disgrace to your club and rugby league in general. Hopefully you manage to get some humility back and develop a proper club over the next couple of years instead of the overpriced journeyman the clown brought in to try and buy success at the expense of the game'"
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"Who's this Bell End /\'"
Somebody who wants Leigh to survive and thrive in the long term, that's something you would never achieve under the control of that throbber who offers people fights on social media and countless other things. You're better off shut of him
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| Bitterly, bitterly disappointed with this shambles! When the one-man band ousted the rest of the consortium and embarked on his journey, I felt there was only one way for it to end - it was just a question of when. We were encouraged to "enjoy the ride" but that's not easy, when you know it's going to end in a car crash!
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| Quote ="Alan"Bitterly, bitterly disappointed with this shambles! When the one-man band ousted the rest of the consortium and embarked on his journey, I felt there was only one way for it to end - it was just a question of when. We were encouraged to "enjoy the ride" but that's not easy, when you know it's going to end in a car crash!'"
But we were very close to achieving something like SL sustainability last year Alan , think back to how many games we were competitive , and how many we werent
Not forgatting some abysmal reffereeing performances and some just plain bad luck with injuries and suspensions
We were close to being able to establish ourselves
But it wasnt to be and we are here again , not for the 1 st time , probably not the last
the new year will hopefully bring with it new hope and optimism , you never know we might win a shield before then
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| Just waiting on a few of the old reserve squad to get back off their hols. Will have a team for Sunday and then a few amateurs/ex-Leigh reserves week after.
You surround yourself with clowns don’t complain your life’s a circus.
We will be back.
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| Quote ="Binosh"Just waiting on a few of the old reserve squad to get back off their hols. Will have a team for Sunday and then a few amateurs/ex-Leigh reserves week after.
You surround yourself with clowns don’t complain your life’s a circus.
We will be back.'"
Good players Mitch and Sam will do a job
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| I’m very disappointed in the timing and style of DBs announcement even though I get the business side of it for him personally. It appears to me to be solely for personal benefit (as in mitigating any more personal loss) and not for the benefit of the club as a whole. If I’m wrong, I apologise, but it just looks that way from the outside.
That said, under Derek’s control I got to see a dream that my Dad would get to see Leigh make it back to SL and that I would be with him for the first game. Both those things happened when I was beginning to think they never would, and his last ever game was our first win which I also got to see with him.
So all in all I say thanks for trying Derek. It almost worked and along the way you made some people very happy for a while.
I hope there is more benefit to the club in how this last 24 hours hasn’t gone down than I can currently see.
Regardless I will be tuning in on Sunday for my usual breakfast game, I will cheer on whoever wears our shirt (even if they can’t hear me and I will continue to support our club in any way I can through the rest of this and our future seasons.
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| Totally agree about the timing and it seems unnecessary and over-dramatic. Surely he has a job to do until the end of the season to get us into the best place possible?
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| Quote ="mapleyther"Totally agree about the timing and it seems unnecessary and over-dramatic. Surely he has a job to do until the end of the season to get us into the best place possible?'"
Maybe he sees this as the best way to do that - offloading large contracts to make us financially viable and a better prospect for potential new owners
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| One word. GUTTED. Lets hope the timing of this just might mean there is interest already out there.
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