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| The mans a idiot
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| Can't even imaging what's going though the guys mind in situations like this
Time after time after time after time after time
Appreciate you need to let the halfs your there (gawd knows Ben gets plenty), but he deserves everything he gets for that - and for me that looks like his season (including the 8's) over
Once to often for me - time to get shut
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"Are you free Alan to accompany Acton to Red Hall next week?
Don't get pressed into explaining where fingers and hands are attached to though.'"
Harold, I'm not defending, in any way, what he did. There was absolutely no need to make any contact with the Batley guy. It was late, it was high - end of. I merely question how hard the impact was and I'm surprised at the effect it had on Hemingway. He will be banned, he deserves to be banned, and I'm afraid that, despite his potential, it would appear that nobody can control his actions.
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| What potential are we talking about? This year he has been dross... isn’t running he’s weight anymore
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| Quote ="oggy123"What potential are we talking about? This year he has been dross... isn’t running he’s weight anymore'"
The potential, for me, was his size, mobility, and all round fitness. Agreed he's not been breaking the line much, this season, but he has been committing numerous opposition players to the tackle.
However, I now think any potential is about to go out of the window!
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| For a gym owner and someone that looks the part he never really strikes me as a fitness freak be honest... thought last year he was pretty good but all I’ve seen this year is him dominated in the tackle web. He can actually stay on the pitch.. let he’s mates down big time yesterday
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| Quote ="oggy123"For a gym owner and someone that looks the part he never really strikes me as a fitness freak be honest... thought last year he was pretty good but all I’ve seen this year is him dominated in the tackle web. He can actually stay on the pitch.. =#FF0000let he’s mates down big time yesterday'"
Agreed. They did massively well, in bad conditions (to be playing one man down for 74 minutes) to convincingly overcome the handicap.
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| Quote ="Zulu01"Saw the incident, Jamie was well out of order - we don't need this in our team. The lad was in a bad way. If it was caught on video - bye Jamie for at least 6 matches possibly longer.
Any news on how Hemingway is, he was taken to Hospital (blue lighter)'"
I was sat in the Stand and Hemingway had his back to me but I saw Jamie collide with him and Hemingway hit the ground. People around me were of the opinion that Hemingway had perhaps banged his head on the hard pitch has he landed as none of us saw anything untoward and, I didn't see the linesman rush on or, the Batley enraged ! The most important issue here is Tom Hemingway's welfare and, we all wish him a speedy and full recovery and hope to see him back on the pitch soon.
Jamie wont need any enemies down at Red Hall, he's got enough on this Forum! Ill need to see better than a still Photo to make a judgement! Poster's are even criticising his performance's on the Pitch? he constantly makes more yards than his team mates and his 'go forward' is badly missed when he is absent! He too receives a lot of rough treatment however, he never shy's away even though he is often targeted! The amount of head injuries he has sustained this season would have put a lessor man down!
Apologies also to Jimmy Child, he must have eyes at the back of his head? so full marks to him if he claims to have seen the incident!
Lets wait to see what the evidence provides before we 'hang' him, a player being Hospitalised is not always the result of some kind of 'savage play' .
Regardless, Jamie is a fans favourite because they appreciate his efforts on the Pitch! If the evidence proves he has acted in a thuggish and cowardly manner then he cannot complain about the punishment he will receive!
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| Quote ="kirkhall"I was sat in the Stand and Hemingway had his back to me but I saw Jamie collide with him and Hemingway hit the ground. People around me were of the opinion that Hemingway had perhaps banged his head on the hard pitch has he landed as none of us saw anything untoward and, I didn't see the linesman rush on or, the Batley enraged ! The most important issue here is Tom Hemingway's welfare and, we all wish him a speedy and full recovery and hope to see him back on the pitch soon.
Jamie wont need any enemies down at Red Hall, he's got enough on this Forum! Ill need to see better than a still Photo to make a judgement! Poster's are even criticising his performance's on the Pitch? he constantly makes more yards than his team mates and his 'go forward' is badly missed when he is absent! He too receives a lot of rough treatment however, he never shy's away even though he is often targeted! The amount of head injuries he has sustained this season would have put a lessor man down!
Apologies also to Jimmy Child, he must have eyes at the back of his head? so full marks to him if he claims to have seen the incident!
Lets wait to see what the evidence provides before we 'hang' him, a player being Hospitalised is not always the result of some kind of 'savage play' .
Regardless, Jamie is a fans favourite because they appreciate his efforts on the Pitch! If the evidence prooves he has acted in a thuggish and cowardly manner then he cannot complain about the punishment he will receive!'"
Like you said Kirky , you didn't see the incident just the aftermath. I however I did, I saw it head on, like I said left arm well before the picture was released, if you are going to suspend judgment until you see the video then that's great. I like you have always been a big fan you can always check my back posts. But this time, no I will not be defending him whatsoever.
The video will probably be on LCTV tomorrow.
Hope you are fine, not seen you in while - take care
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| Seen the video it don’t look as bad as the photo but still raises the elbow to the face. He a liability at times no need for it so early in the game they will prob throw the book at him now and rightly so it’s nearly every game he does something stupid he was our best forward last season for me but let’s himself down not showed anywhere near form that he had last season got big contract and now just ticking over
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| Whilst I respect a lot of people's opinions and I tend to agree with most of Kirkhalls posts, we do hold differing opinions on this one player.
For me he is one the most over rated players I have ever seen in a Leigh shirt. Constantly fails to deliver any positive contribution to the team. Unruly, Ill disciplined, a ticking time bomb, it is the 3rd consecutive business end he will be drawing his bread , whilst sat on his backside.
He does not even play it tough.
Cowardly, sly or underhand. Blindside off the ball on the little Batley half, from behind unseen against Salford's Flanagan, or whilst Bird is on the deck, it does not matter but for sure it will never be man to man with Acton. He would not last 5 mins in my day. He really wouldn't.
I don't even think he wants to play for our club. He does not place the club or the team before himself.
Get rid please,enough is enough, a disgrace.
He is also utter tosh of a player.
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"Whilst I respect a lot of people's opinions and I tend to agree with most of Kirkhalls posts, we do hold differing opinions on this one player.
For me he is one the most over rated players I have ever seen in a Leigh shirt. Constantly fails to deliver any positive contribution to the team. Unruly, Ill disciplined, a ticking time bomb, it is the 3rd consecutive business end he will be drawing his bread , whilst sat on his backside.
He does not even play it tough.
Cowardly, sly or underhand. Blindside off the ball on the little Batley half, from behind unseen against Salford's Flanagan, or whilst Bird is on the deck, it does not matter but for sure it will never be man to man with Acton. He would not last 5 mins in my day. He really wouldn't.
I don't even think he wants to play for our club. He does not place the club or the team before himself.
Get rid please,enough is enough, a disgrace.
He is also utter tosh of a player.'"
Cmon Harold, stop going round the houses, tell us what you really think.
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| As always Harold your spot on!!
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| a few of team mates was not happy with him and you can’t blame them either the fans are starting to see through him only a matter of time before he moves on
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| Quote ="Montyburns"a few of team mates was not happy with him and you can’t blame them either the fans are starting to see through him only a matter of time before he moves on'"
Monty, I was at the Mount on Sunday, there was a fair few Leigh fans under the Stand, when Acton walked past them , a high percentage of the Leigh fans were chanting,He's one of our Own ,about Acton,and he got plenty of applause as well.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Monty, I was at the Mount on Sunday, there was a fair few Leigh fans under the Stand, when Acton walked past them , a high percentage of the Leigh fans were chanting,He's one of our Own ,about Acton,and he got plenty of applause as well.'"
To be fair Charlie they probably didn't see the incident, their views might be different today.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Monty, I was at the Mount on Sunday, there was a fair few Leigh fans under the Stand, when Acton walked past them , a high percentage of the Leigh fans were chanting,He's one of our Own ,about Acton,and he got plenty of applause as well.'"
A strange breed Rugby League fans, a round of applause and a chant for receiving a red card and leaving his teammates in the e. Fortunately these teammates were capable of overcoming their teammate’s desertion.
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| I have empathy for Acton as he just can't grasp that 'leave it' part of his game. Shame because he is a good prop, no doubt about that. But the leopard obviously hasn't changed his spots,and to be honest why should he? Its the only way he knows to play.
He's had the backing and support from the club, but sat in the stands again on a juicy contract isn't the answer for Leigh. So again they need to deal with it this time as he had his orders last time and the time before and the time before that.
Enough is enough.
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| Quote ="atomic"I have empathy for Acton as he just can't grasp that 'leave it' part of his game. Shame because he is a good prop, no doubt about that. But the leopard obviously hasn't changed his spots,and to be honest why should he? Its the only way he knows to play.
He's had the backing and support from the club, but sat in the stands again on a juicy contract isn't the answer for Leigh. So again they need to deal with it this time as he had his orders last time and the time before and the time before that.
Enough is enough.'"
We could have sold him last season for a six figure fee.
Should have done so !
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| The video posted on Facebook (Not sure what the disciplinary would think of official club footage being posted on social media straight after the game btw) probably doesn't look as bad as it actually is because it is slowed down. He raises his forearm, and catches the player. If he'd raised his arms and shaped for a charge down, or tackled him late, it would've been a penalty and probably not even a yellow.
As for his performances this year, they've nosedived. Always drops the ball early in a set, near his own line.
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| He will be lucky if he gets anything less than 10 games due to his track record. We need to cut him loose.
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| Quote ="LeythIg"The video posted on Facebook (Not sure what the disciplinary would think of official club footage being posted on social media straight after the game btw) probably doesn't look as bad as it actually is because it is slowed down. He raises his forearm, and catches the player. If he'd raised his arms and shaped for a charge down, or tackled him late, it would've been a penalty and probably not even a yellow.
As for his performances this year, they've nosedived. Always drops the ball early in a set, near his own line.'"
His performance had been ordinary, just like his teammates however, he has started to look the part again recently! I'll never forget that sidestep at Blackpool to go under the posts, any Stand off would have been proud of that he made big money signing fullback O'Brian look very ordinary Props in general are tough uncompromising chaps however, some always seem to catch the headlines! Older Leigh fans will remember Dave Chisnall (Chissy) he had a freakish turn of pace for a prop however, he was always doing rash stupid tackles etc.. and he got more reds than Jamie! He was also a fans favourite and an Ashes winner on the 1970 tour representing Leigh! I remember we had just qualified for Wembley and had a league fixture at Wigan, in true Chissy style he decided to flatten Wigan fullback Colin Tyrer has Tyrer caught an up and under He was promptly sent off and subsequently missed our Wembley triumph! Chissy followed Murphy to Warrington after Wembley and won many more Honours there however, he never changed his seemingly silly antics!
Chissy has recently passed away at a youngish age, R.I.P. Chissy !
Phil, I'm only trying to point out that Jamie is not on his own when it comes to rash challenges!
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| You have already got the job as Acton’s cheerleader and apologist, you don’t need to keep banging his drum.
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| Quote ="Zulu01"Like you said Kirky , you didn't see the incident just the aftermath. I however I did, I saw it head on, like I said left arm well before the picture was released, if you are going to suspend judgment until you see the video then that's great. I like you have always been a big fan you can always check my back posts. But this time, no I will not be defending him whatsoever.
The video will probably be on LCTV tomorrow.
Hope you are fine, not seen you in while - take care'"
Thanks for the good wishes Zulu, I'm fine thanks, never more than when I'm voicing my opinions on our team
Heard the Batley Coach condemning Jamie on radio Leeds on Sunday, claiming, we had lost a lazy prop and they had lost a play maker! His own Prop Brown, is currently serving a three match ban for hitting a Halifax halfback late, after a kick Glass houses spring to mind
Good news on Batley twitter yesterday from Tom Hemingway late Sunday night, he had not broken anything however, he may possibly have some further tests and, he said he was felling fine Good luck Tom
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| Quote ="kirkhall"His performance had been ordinary, just like his teammates however, he has started to look the part again recently! I'll never forget that sidestep at Blackpool to go under the posts, any Stand off would have been proud of that he made big money signing fullback O'Brian look very ordinary
Props in general are tough uncompromising chaps however, some always seem to catch the headlines! Older Leigh fans will remember Dave Chisnall (Chissy) he had a freakish turn of pace for a prop however, he was always doing rash stupid tackles etc.. and he got more reds than Jamie! He was also a fans favourite and an Ashes winner on the 1970 tour representing Leigh! I remember we had just qualified for Wembley and had a league fixture at Wigan, in true Chissy style he decided to flatten Wigan fullback Colin Tyrer has Tyrer caught an up and under
He was promptly sent off and subsequently missed our Wembley triumph! Chissy followed Murphy to Warrington after Wembley and won many more Honours there however, he never changed his seemingly silly antics!
Chissy has recently passed away at a youngish age, R.I.P. Chissy !
Phil, I'm only trying to point out that Jamie is not on his own when it comes to rash challenges!'"
It was an excellent line he ran, but towards the end of that game in Blackpool, we were under the cosh, and got what should've been a relieving penalty when Crooks was tackled in the air only for Acton to drop the ball early in the set. If memory serves me right, they scored off the back of that to go to within a score of us. It's the two sides of him that causes all the frustration.
As for the rash challenges, I don't think there'd be much spoken about him if it was misjudged high tackles, but the attempt was to do something legal but hard. Based on the replay, I couldn't tell you what he was setting out to do. No attempt at a charge down, didn't get the shoulder in for a tackle, just raised his arm and hit him! With Greg Bird, if he'd told him his card was marked after he'd got up, then hit him, he wouldn't have got a 4 month ban. He didn't have to lay a finger on him. It's all just unneccessary stuff, which is a shame because when he's playing well, he's as good a one on one tackler we've had for a number of years with the ability to hurt players legally.
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