It is in no way justifiable and most definatley not understandable, he is in a position of being an ambassador of the club, however much he believes he is provocated he should be above it and take it with aplomb even though he believes he is in a demading situation, he reacted with venom to both gesticulate and mourh the words, don't misdermean yourself saying it was not inoffensive, at that time it was most definatley meant to be offensive.

Not understandable

don't talk poop - don't care if they are the worst team in living history, as frustrating as it is for the fans if you give it out be prepared to take some back

Ambassador of the club bo££ocks - are they supposed to have a white collar around their neck, they are grown men and if they get abuse its natural to give it back

I disagree, he is a paid employee of the club, therefore he should be man enough to take the flak without resorting to abusive words and gestures towards the fans who contribute to his wages.
Like Carragher he would have immediately regretted rdhis actions but unlike Carragher he hasn’t yet apologised.

For those of you who think it was OK where would you draw the line on what is and is not acceptable from players and staff?

Agree with that

Well we'll agree to disagree





Carragher has a million smacaroons to apologise for and you cannot compare a fingered gesture and a bit of verbal to the actions of our scouse friend

Do you believe Mark Noble should be banned

Like I said, if he did it, he's in the wrong.

Presumably you don't want me to 'demean' myself, with my 'inoffensive' comment? That comment was meant to be tongue-in-cheek - hence the emoticon - in that a lot worse was flying the way of the players and coaching staff. I'm not condoning what he's supposed to have done - merely saying that, in the heat of the moment, well several moments lately, his reaction may only have been human - if misguided. Hopefully, he will apologise.

Disagreeing, is that a first?

I don’t think Noble should be banned, the gobbin shouldn’t have been on the pitch. They must have borrowed the ‘yellow line’ stewards from LSV

Lets not forget about his past record too - the touchline bans etc due to abusing officials. Does a fan who works all week, has paid hundreds of pounds for a season ticket, travels to away games, all of which money is being paid to the wages of the likes of Paul Anderson deserve such abuse for venting their voice after watching such a shoddy performance, like that of Sunday ? This is everything that's wrong with the club for me at the moment, no professionalism !!

You most certainly have an agenda. You were doing fine up to making it personal.

I still don’t see a single person in this thread that actually saw this happen. Certainly not the OP either.

Go on, you know you want to



Do us all a favour, said last week this guy was a divvy

No one gets banned for voicing an opinion whilst I'm here.

Here she is, hardly hear from you whilst the goings good - you must have been more active on here in the last 2 weeks than you have in the last 2 years

Feel free to stick to the rules - let's hope your impartial in doing so

I always stick to the rules, and just for your info, even though I may not post, I'm always around. Also I wasn't aware I needed your permission to post or not to post because as far as I'm aware, this is a free country an us women have equal rights. It's a mighty long time since a man was in a position to tell me what I can and can't do, so wind your neck in.

Unlike some on here, I don't feel the need to voice an opinion on every single thread going and I don't slag the team off....unlike some.

I agree if true

Judging by his 14 posts, Valvehunter is rather enjoying the predicament that Leigh Centurions find themselves in right now. IF we go on a 'winning run' and with no 'unfounded rumours' flying about, I doubt he'll be posting on here very much.

Jesus if this actually happened im sure that facebook banter page would have gone into meltdown with everything but banter

Facebook banter page is ran by humourless nazis

not true...

Well, I was stood right at the back of the stand and definitely saw the incident. Anderson gave the V sign to our supporters at the front. I was obviously too far back to hear what he said so I can't comment on that.

Finding it difficult to understand what all the fuss is about. When Bongser was a lad, Bolton had a forward by the name of Neil Whatmore. He was in a barren run and, upon the Lever End howling their derision at his latest side-netting effort, openly gave the vees to his tormentors and the worst that happened was the The (late lamented) Buff (Bolton's equivalent to the M.E.N. Pink Final) remarked that "Whatmore made angry signs to the crowd". End of subject.

Another time at Burnden Park, the Lever End spent the entire second half chanting that Peter Mellor (the Fulham goalie) was a

er. At the end of the match (the only one that ever saw Bobby Moore being sent off), Mellor gave the same "angry signs" to the crowd and there was no media reaction anywhere. Nor was there any when, as a curtain raiser to the '96 Pool vs Utd Cup Final (best part of a 100,000 there and millions watching on tele), Tommy Smith gave the Harvey's to Stepney after beating him with a penalty. Fair enough, there was a tad of a to do about the other Smith, but that was in the somewhat more genteel world of showjumping.

The difference? Mass media, the worst social outlet being Facebook. Think it was Heseltine during the Westlands scandal in the 80s, that said, "There is nothing more childish than an outraged British public".

On another note has the driver that was using his mobile to film Carragher been arrested for driving without due care and attention? For Bongser that is the most serious offence in all this as it could endanger people. The rest is trifling.

Used to love buying the pink coming out of the Manchester road end that as just brought memories back

After the pink it was teletext 303

IMO the heart was ripped from BWFC the minute we left Burnden Park.

or when the Supermarket appeared
or when the Lever End was seated
or when H&S started to reduce standing capacity
or the relegations of 80/83