How come the coaches waited to get to the dressing rooms after the players. Surely they should have been waiting for them with the mother of all b*llockings. Then they all left the players to wander back to their hidey hole and left players in dressing rooms. Now we should have a clearout...Of the coaches

This guy needs to do our half time team talks https://youtu.be/J4x05Z3MSkQ

This guy needs to do our half time team talks https://youtu.be/J4x05Z3MSkQ

I agree with the title of this thread,and all the post have good valid opinions. After calming down somewhat after yesterday,it really is perturbing to hear what's going on at the club if true. Now, we have to look at what we can get out of the remaining games. There are 6 points available which would give us 10 points in total if this can be achieved,so all is not lost.Let's hope and pray we can turn this around.

I'm with you there Cokey. There is still plenty to play for, if the players/coaches are up for it.

These arguments between coaches and players is frustration as players are asking to try other stuff and the coaches are sticking with the same old game plans that don't work and have not worked all season. Just hope we can come together last 3 games and hopefully win our cup final which will be the million pound game.

All of the speculations and very well most probably comments of substance that have been aired in the past 3 pages have to have a source of instigation or even a place to rest the blame.
What could very well have been the saviour of Leigh RLFC a few seasons ago could well be its undoing in something yet to be mentioned, indeed some people may be reticent or even afraid to bring the name Derek Beaumont into the discussion, but as they say the Buck stops at the top, has he interfered to much, could he have come down with a more forceful attitude to the obvious trouble makers (I don't know who they are) but must exist with some of the comments reported on these pages, or has he set the wrong example which his charges are following.
Why has DB insisted all along and unequivocally Jukes is the best man for the job, when a vast number of other people see flaws in his leadership? Who is responsible for the signings who are clearly not up to the job in hand, why after a number of seasons of success has he suddenly relinquished his Director of Rugby mantle when the going has got difficult, perhaps the only person that can seriously answer these questions is the man that DB sees in the mirror.
I want a strong Owner, one who appoints the right people, someone who has mastered the art of delegation, and someone who leads by example, all the exampls of unrest I am reading in these pages shouts loudly to me that the man at the top does not and has not got the respect his employees. He should be going through the club with a fine tooth comb and get it back on track.

That's exactly as I see it, the buck stops at the top.

Right , we played crap , we lost , it happens , but it doesn't mean the player hate the coaches , or the players don't like each other , or the coaches hate the players or that anybody is interfering

In any working environment , especially one as pressurised as a pro sports team there will be fall outs , but that is not the reason we lost , we played poorly , that's it , it happens all the time to everybody , even the bloody Robots knock on in the pre match credits for christs sake

So will everybody please stop behaving like owed washer women gossiping over the back fence , its quite ridiculous

We go again next week

In that case I suggest you stop reading all the bollox being spouted on this thread

Not being one to spread rumours, but I hear we have offered terms to those robots for next season! They should fit in well.

I know Widnes came bottom but this also happened to Wakefield and saved for the playoffs if know in the bottom 4. Widnes have never had a half back pairing all season for more than 3 games. It looks like Craven will be out again and all season we have had half our first team squad injured. Luckily most are fit now and that is why results are happening for us.

To be honest a 'Comical Ali' esq role in a ministry of spin is not a bad shout this moment in time.

If the players are falling out I'd bloody well hope they've had a damn good punch up in training this week and got the frustration out in the open.
They all need to now act professional and whether they agree with the coaching team or not go out on the field and give a professional display.
We haven't got time for feeling sorry or overpaid sulks, its time the badge patting / kissing actually showed it meant something and thus its time they gave it everything, if that means we go down then so be it - but lets go down fighting.
In relation to going down I think its time the club started to get that realisation in place as we need a fighting spirit on & off the field with everyone now putting behind childish squabbles and start backing this club, you can have all the fallouts you want over the summer-now its time for players and coaching staff to be professional and do the best for the Supporters and the club.

We are in a relegation battle and can easily now be considered as favourites to go down, we need soldiers on & off the field - its time to support the club , to do that its time for the club to galvanise everything on & off the field for 3 or 4 games into a club worthy of support.
That battle starts at Warrington on Saturday.

That's the point Jenky , quality team sports players , even amateurs don't take petty squabbles and issues onto the pitch , once they cross the line it's all forgotten

Play RL at anything other than 100% committment and you'll come off injured , but sometimes that committment gets in the way of playing better , too much trying to run through a brick wall rather than engineering a bridge over or round it on Sunday

Too many times going 5 h1t or bust rather than playing the percentages tying Widnes up over the line or tight in the corners

As for the end of the game , yes I prefer it when the players come over win or lose , but I'm sure those that didn't are fully aware of the implications of the performance and loss , they didn't need telling

I'll be there on Saturday , hopefully many more will be as well , but each to there own , those that decide not to are well within their rights and will receive no criticism from me

Three of us - still our team, however much we criticise them.

I will be there, fully supporting our boys on the park as always.

Everything is still to play for but no one can deny some serious issues need addressing once and for all this week.

What is DB's target this season?
If that target is met then,who is right?
If the target is met,then how can you sack the coaching staff, whose met their targets?

All this talk of unrest is indeed unsettling however, I shall be at warrington on Saturday and I would urge all our great fans to be there too! Remember, players,Coaches and Officials come and go they always have however, the club has always survived, JUST!
Shall we say the more 'Mature' fans will have experienced the highs and lows many times before, its part of being a Leyther


Survival is going to be tough, I never expected any different although, we have seen some outstanding performances from this squad this season and if they are prepared to battle together there is no reason to think we can't do the necessary to stay in SL!

Before the Qualifiers I told my Widnes supporting Son no SL team would lose to a Championship team in the comp! well, we certainly made a mess of that

Remember we didnt play well against Rovers yet they were 'hanging on' at the end!
The fixture computer has been kind to KR, they have accumalated 8 points by playing all three of their Championship rivals and, only one SL team us who, were only promoted last year and are the least experienced SL team!!
Rovers now, will have to show us if they have the ability to win points against three established SL clubs?
(To Rovers fans, i'm not having a go at your club, Im just relating the facts as they stand!)

You're right with the last paragraph, we (Hull KR) haven't really played overly well, all of this play off comp, yet we still sit there on 8 points out of 8. Before it started I thought we'd be on 6 by now and realistically looking at a MPG. Now we're looking at probably needing one win out of 3 to get promoted without the MPG (thats if your lot do us a favour and roll over at wire).

What we seem to have is an ability and a resilience to win a game, regardless of how we're playing. Just hope we can now get over the line, even if its the ugliest of wins I'd take it.

We did it by beating our three Championship rivals and three SL teams. I would think that one more win against a SL team should do it for you.

The target for this season is to keep our SL status, which is still on track even if it's via the MPG.

What is worrying, is the alleged behind the scenes issues that have surfaced over the last few pages of this topic regarding players and coaching staff. You can probably discount a fair bit of it as gossip and rumour mill shenanigans. However, something certainly seems not right.

I hope things are ironed out and Saturdays performance is learned from and onto 3 wins out of 3 from the remaining fixtures.

Correct Roy. I couldn't care less who spat the dummy,sort it for Wire is all I ask.

I have heard this scores of times this season from all sorts of people who attend matches both home and away. I am sick and tired of it,and it wants sorting NOW. p.s "Too many Cooks spoil the Lobby".

Gossip , gossip , gossip , gossip , every time we play poorly and lose doesn't mean there are ' Issues ' within the club

Bloody grow up

Never thought I'd say this but I do feel for Leigh this year, you always seems to be on the wrong end of a rule shift and you've done better this year than we did in our first year back in SL - but we knew there was no relegation for us.

You've also got an inexperienced coach who was inexperienced in the Championship let alone SL, and you've had some bad injuries this year that hasn't helped.

I think the result at the weekend see's us in the top 3, as a win over London and our superior points difference should see us home, but hoping for a decent result at Hull KR on Saturday, somewhere we have struggled of late.

I'd be surprised if you have the same coach next year but you've got a local businessman who wants to make Leigh successful, so if DB sticks around I think things will come good for you. He's certainly putting his hand in his pocket more than the Widnes board has.

MPG against Catalans it seems though, you've got to take heart that you won there the other week, not many teams do that. We've never won there. (Have drawn though).