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| Refs get things wrong in every game" End of"
I for one think Leigh have done better than a lot thought they would but outbursts like this do the club no favours and the booing of an injured player certainly isn't what is expected in rugby league.
You had a bad reputation of bullying teams in the championship but that dosnt work in super league so the excuses begin.
As for Mkmeeken yes I think it should have been a sin bin to be fair but if you are going to pick up on every single thing what about when Benny Roberts was grabbed around the neck !!!!
Or is this ok because it was your team doing it
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| As a player especially, it must drain every ounce of positive energy when not only are you facing a team riding high on confidence, but you're also playing the ref. It's self-evident that The RFL want Hull KR back in SL as fast as possible as a replacement for Leigh. Many events in history suggest everything is done to prevent Leigh and other non-elite clubs getting into SL. It was only through large investment that it was possible last year for Leigh. If the RL had a brain they'd increase the SL to 14 teams ASAP, but that's for another day.
Keep speaking out Derek please as the game will continue to decline if you and Marwan stop, and ultimately when the fans get a win/lose deal, they quickly get fed up and stop paying with their hard earned cash. I believe Derek is right in that RL is simple and that's why the fans love it - the speed, the fluency - add your own superlatives here. But when the refs get in the way, the entertainment deteriorates rapidly, with financial repercussions!
On a positive, to concede only 10 points in the second half - and for a period with 12 players - was a superb effort.
Chin up and cheer up! Enjoy your week.
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| I’m sure there are better ways of raising a grievance with regards to Referees than what appears to be spitting ones dummy out in public.
I didn’t really think yesterday was ‘that bad’ in terms of refereeing, at various times decisions go for and against you, and although I love the screen (and still think ours is under used) sometimes the screen doesn’t help.
We were beaten well yesterday by a very good team who are good to watch, pity some of our players where doing just that, at times we were like rabbits in the headlights. The coaches and the players need to get it sorted, we need to stop feeling sorry for ourselves, we are no longer cock of the school we’re playing the big boys now, we can and must do better.
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| Quote ="glow"I’m sure there are better ways of raising a grievance with regards to Referees than what appears to be spitting ones dummy out in public.
I didn’t really think yesterday was ‘that bad’ in terms of refereeing, at various times decisions go for and against you, and although I love the screen (and still think ours is under used) sometimes the screen doesn’t help.
We were beaten well yesterday by a very good team who are good to watch, pity some of our players where doing just that, at times we were like rabbits in the headlights. The coaches and the players need to get it sorted, we need to stop feeling sorry for ourselves, we are no longer cock of the school we’re playing the big boys now, we can and must do better.'"
Well said Glow
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| Quote ="Peter Kay"Perhaps that is in a nutshell'"
It could just be a Yarkshire thing
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| Quote ="chissitt"Well I for one was under the impression you are where you are in the table because of poor performances, plus injuries and poor indiscipline, ageing players panic buys not to mention a coach who is either out of his depth or too frightened to tell degsy to keep his nose out of team affairs, but apparently it's none of those but simply poor refereeing and victimisation from them and the RFL, who'd have thought it
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| Quote ="Centurino"As a player especially, it must drain every ounce of positive energy when not only are you facing a team riding high on confidence, but you're also playing the ref. It's self-evident that The RFL want Hull KR back in SL as fast as possible as a replacement for Leigh. Many events in history suggest everything is done to prevent Leigh and other non-elite clubs getting into SL. It was only through large investment that it was possible last year for Leigh. If the RL had a brain they'd increase the SL to 14 teams ASAP, but that's for another day.
Keep speaking out Derek please as the game will continue to decline if you and Marwan stop, and ultimately when the fans get a win/lose deal, they quickly get fed up and stop paying with their hard earned cash. I believe Derek is right in that RL is simple and that's why the fans love it - the speed, the fluency - add your own superlatives here. But when the refs get in the way, the entertainment deteriorates rapidly, with financial repercussions!
On a positive, to concede only 10 points in the second half - and for a period with 12 players - was a superb effort.
Chin up and cheer up! Enjoy your week.'"
Centurion, you are right it was a good defensive second half,I was expecting Cas to put 50 or 60 on us, with the guys in the stand injured ,once they return things will improve , I'm confident we will be OK in the middle 8s, but this Refs hate us syndrome has to go .
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| Quote ="kirkhall" 'Ref' Kendall is appalling, we are not criticising him just on yesterdays performanmce and the loss, he is appalling every time we have had the misfortune to have Ref us! We had many wins in the Championship with him in charge so, its not just sour grapes
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I must have missed the dummy spits and accompanying threads after those games you won last year then...
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"The Reynolds ' punch out ' compared to last weeks knock on against Robert Lui at MW ?'"
Reynolds knocked on.
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| Quote ="reffy"Reynolds knocked on.'"
reffy, genuine question. If you are the only marker at ptb, can you still be penalized for not standing square?
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| Quote ="Cokey"reffy, genuine question. If you are the only marker at ptb, can you still be penalized for not standing square?'"
Of course you can
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| Quote ="IanTigerman"Of course you can'"
Thank you, I wasn't sure. It's just that i saw it twice yesterday and one was penalized and the other wasn't.
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| Quote ="IanTigerman"Did he mention your fans booing an injured Cas player off the field ?
Enjoy the championship next season'"
Tigertroll ! Where did you buy your crystal ball from ? What a crap following from you lost yesterday, you have a side that are playing really well, but bring just a few hundred fans...PATHETIC. Did you watch the game on Sky also Tigertroll ? I bet you did darling.....
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"Tigertroll ! Where did you buy your crystal ball from ? What a crap following from you lost yesterday, you have a side that are playing really well, but bring just a few hundred fans...PATHETIC. Did you watch the game on Sky also Tigertroll ?
I bet you did darling.....'"
Wouldn't say the following was that bad - lower than a few other games where we've taken 3-4k away however you only have to look at the average attendances to shut down that argument (for instance why was one stand completely closed and the other 2 stands barely full - you're the ones at home not us?) - will leave it at that as nobody can really bang on about attendances, they're all pretty shocking these days.
Also not everyone has bank holidays off work and those that do might go away for a long weekend / decide to stay closer to home, go out in the morning and watch the game later in the evening.
In terms of the other 'fan' I don't believe you'll be in the championship next season, you look good enough to be able to go through the middle 8's and then focus on rebuilding for next year.
Enjoy the rest of the season.
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| I actually thought Dereks main gripe was aimed at the inconsistency/standard of refereeing in SL right across the board as opposed to just 80 mins v Castleford.
Just as a side note, many say the number 1 referee is Phil Bentham, anyone know how many times he has refereed Leigh in SL this season?
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Chissy not a bad observation.'"
Thought you were badly done to when the ref sent it up as a no try,when the camera clearly showed it was down, not sure if it was Acton or Patterson she!!te decision, probably wouldn't have helped but from our experiences it does leave you a touch bitter and frustrated.
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| Quote ="JENKY"I actually thought Dereks main gripe was aimed at the inconsistency/standard of refereeing in SL right across the board as opposed to just 80 mins v Castleford.
Just as a side note, many say the number 1 referee is Phil Bentham, anyone know how many times he has refereed Leigh in SL this season?'"
Is he allowed to being a Leyther himself?
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| Quote ="JackDiggle"Is he allowed to being a Leyther himself?'"
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| I don’t think it was a wise move from Derek Beaumont to publicly criticise the standard of referees. I can understand the pressure he’s under but from what I have witnessed from the past outspoken views of our owner it will only make things much worse for Leigh. DB would have been better served taking a few deep breaths, having a large glass of wine and airing his views through the right channels. The RFL don’t react very well to public criticism and if you kick one of them they all limp. I can understand a fine may be irrelevant to him but the payback will much more punishing. Expect a few more of your key players come the 8's to be cited for visits to Red Hall.
The best thing he could do is issue a public apology to the referee and the RFL saying his views were influenced by the pressure he’s under and having watched the game back on video his comments were harsh. I doubt he’ll even consider it for a second but I think it would be better for your clubs SL survival hopes if he did.
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| Derek needs to stick to running the club and stay of social media especially when he had a few shandys
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| Quote ="reffy"Reynolds knocked on.'"
And Robert Lui's ?
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| Quote ="theredshed"I don’t think it was a wise move from Derek Beaumont to publicly criticise the standard of referees. I can understand the pressure he’s under but from what I have witnessed from the past outspoken views of our owner it will only make things much worse for Leigh. DB would have been better served taking a few deep breaths, having a large glass of wine and airing his views through the right channels. The RFL don’t react very well to public criticism and if you kick one of them they all limp. I can understand a fine may be irrelevant to him but the payback will much more punishing. Expect a few more of your key players come the 8's to be cited for visits to Red Hall.
The best thing he could do is issue a public apology to the referee and the RFL saying his views were influenced by the pressure he’s under and having watched the game back on video his comments were harsh. I doubt he’ll even consider it for a second but I think it would be better for your clubs SL survival hopes if he did.'"
Given how our players get cited and others don't for identical offences already , what have we to lose ?
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| Couple of points about posts above. The ref will is highly unlikely to get a public apology and whats any of this to do with social media. It was all said in a very public press conference and also in the aftermatch presentations later.
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"And Robert Lui's ?'"
To be honest I didn't take much notice but if it was the same as Reynolds' then it should have had the same result.
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| Quote ="reffy"To be honest I didn't take much notice but if it was the same as Reynolds' then it should have had the same result.'"
It was , but it was the opposite ( and cost us a try , and possibly the game ) Result
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