Isnt that at least 3 games that Fev have now lost because of poor discipline? Fax without a doubt, Leigh yesterday by the sounds of it, and then you were still in with a chance against batley until they started giving penalty after penalty away. Maybe a question of fitness?

Ref evened it up yesterday with 6 mins with 11 men and 14 mins with 12, on top of a shocking policing of the ptb and 10m, about 30 penalties and the pace of a snail with a broken foot.
It was like watching a RU game where the ref made it up as he went along to keep the score close

Neil,

I still believe that the SL refs we have had, both this season and last, allow a slower play the ball than we are used to. It doesn't help, when the third tackler arrives, just as everyone else is getting up! There were times when I thought the Fev players had gone to sleep, when the tackle was completed. They certainly had long enough to do so!

The problem there is usually a lack of evidence to support the claim.Majority of official citings in the Championship are dismissed by the panel due to video evidence being inconclusive.

Which brings us to the point Prop made and a very valid one. Mr Childs made/missed decision's yesterday (for both teams) that would have been over-turned by a video ref.

We had one of our own sticking either two or one middle finger up nearly all game at any opposing fan, player or mascot, he was a disgrace and right numpty.



Last week I stated we (and all the other championship teams) are worse than last season whilst SL has got better, I then got a load of what to me was useless facts, like we won, we’re top of the league, etc.

Well those facts still apply and having watched 3 games this week-end two on TV showing the bottom 2 in SL and us top of the Championship live, my opinion hasn’t changed.

Have to concur with glow we would need to up our game by at least 50% to give the SL bottom teams a game

The only way anyone's going up this year:

A SL team loses to all SL opposition, and is so over confident against CH sides they lost to one or two of them too and finish fifth. At least one CH side up without touching the MPG.

There is no other route, cos when it comes to hopes and dreams versus desperately hanging on to your career there's only one winner.

Tackling the thread title in general, I'll reserve judgement till next week.

Batley are on a bit of down slope and we "owe them" so I would hope a convincing win at home.

But I'm still happy with any kind of win.

Bradford seem back in the ascendancy again and London appear to be THE team at the moment but before the Summer Bash roles around there are what I still think will be big tests away at Swinton and Oldham.

But if you carry on the money arguement, if money won everything then Leicester shouldn't be any where near winning the Premier League.

Just been reading the Fev board they thought Childs reffed well. Amazing lol.

They would think that - how many players did they have in the bin, and how many penalties did they concede?

Not me! Never liked him, always awards at least 20 pens a game at super league level.

Fantastic game yesterday, proper advert for the championship, enjoyed the full 80 mins and thought we was going to snatch a draw at the end



Obviously a few people have mentioned incidents which could've spoilt the game, not seen the Griffin incident but if he has done what is supposed to have happened then should end up with a ban or the usual early guilty plea no ban



The biting incident is a wierd one, Whiting claims he was bitten and having known him from school he isn't a liar, yet both rugby league papers have it down as he is on report for dissent

wouldnt you just end up in bin for dissent??

One incident that people haven't mentioned is late in 1st half, Thackeray was wrapped up in tackle and i think it was Hopkins aimed a headbutt at him ( he has been out a few week with a face injury ) i could see it from behind sticks and it was up near the stand you guys were in, anyone see it? Again could end up been cited and banned

Other than that, as said fantastic game and fair play to all you that travelled over, makes a game 10 times better in my eyes when the banter takes over and creates a great atmosphere.

Good luck next week, want you to win for a change

What's more amazing...

Fev fans saying the ref did a good job, abiet their team losing.

Or

Our fans saying he had a shocker, abiet us winning


Now that's wierd

I want a ref who gets pace on the game thus keeping sides apart, few penaltys and who fans ask who that ref was at the end

Re Glows post I agree. ok we are currently top of the Championship but with our squad and despite our injuries we should be playing well for 80 mins not 20 mins per game.

Re Snake's 1985 post I saw the incident he referred to too but I thought it was Acton not Hopkins

Course he could not have made contact otherwise a ref like Childs would have spotted it.

Just watched match recording,Featherstone really had a good go at Leigh and refs calls were correct and fair for both sides. Think you guys are missing Brierley. Anyway Leythers good luck for rest of campaign and see you at P.O.R next season.

Well ground out a hard fought win. Showed real spirit & determination to come away with the win. Higson was fantastic in his determination to get back defensively & Acton incredible in his attacking go forward, think we'd have lost without either of them. Good to see Rangi back & think he had a solid first game back. We need to be a bit smarter at times though when it comes when & where to try to pass it about & when and where to stick it up our jumpers, 6 points ahead and 5min left trying to offload it off the floor on our own 20 m line is just bonkers. Don't think it's fair to say "With the money we've spent we deserve to win against anyone." There's some good teams in The Championship & everyone will up their game against us. Would like to see us now though go on a good run & really put a few teams to the sword with full 80 min performances. We've got the talent, we've got the attitude to grind out wins, we need to get the attitude great teams have where it doesn't matter what the score is or how long there is left to play, it's not about winning or losing it's about scoring or forcing the repeat set every or keeping them from scoring.

Watched Miners on Saturday & saw a far higher standard of refereeing than Sunday, if Child wasn't a full time ref he wouldn't be doing top amateur games. Considering he's supposed to be a full time SL ref the ruck speed was slower than I've seen for years & we seemed to be playing a 5m offside. Don't really know what either sin bin was for but how you give those & just give a penalty for taking Micky off the ball is beyond me. Coupled with the inconsistent what's high & what's not and what's forward & what's not mind of a Child yet again fails to get the basics right.

Sin bin for Ackton tripping.
Hock for head into Hardmans face in 3man tackle.

Couldn't see the Acton innt as it was down the other end of the pitch. If it was for that with Hock then again shows the inconsistency & incompetence of Chid as there was far far worse going on all game.

Well the defence was brilliant as was the attack when we were in their 25. All we need to fix is the bit in the middle (which surely can't be too difficult)

Hock was binned for telling Child to go forth and multiply.

Would like remind people,middle eights are not till the end of July,there is a lot of rugby to be played before then.Last season we were battering everybody out of sight and were did that get us come the end of season. We have had loads of disruptions this season,with one thing or another,but after all that we are still top at the half way stage.Im not convinced about SL teams being stronger this season than last,everybody beating each other,look at Wigan at Wakefield and Hull KR at Cas this week.Lets hope we can build from here and get a settled team and see were we are,come the middle 8s.Onwards and Upwards

Well said Ryan !

Yep. Said that last week in my post after the cup game. Don't see why people are panicking. I'd be worried if we were Bradford right now. But we're top.

Not sure why people think we were battering people out of sight this time last year, the facts show we score one try less per game a year later. This despite not having settled pivots apart from Mickey, this despite coach quitting, this despite top try scorer quitting, this despite a horrendous injury crisis, this despite having to use 4/5 loanees.

We will only get better, and who ever is in the 8's we will more than give a game to....

Agree. Castleford could be there for the taking if their current form continues. Especially if they have a run in the cup. On a form line through Oldham /KR we are about 90 points better. (Then again on a line through Toulouse we would be lucky to beat Rochdale) which shows how unpredictable it is. A MPG against anyone could be treated as chance to revisit the spirit of 71.