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| Well said Demon....we are 'ruffling' a few sooper dooper league feathers.....BELTIN' !!!!
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| Quote ="Cokey"Well the key here is you guys and Bradfurt for that matter are dwelling too much on last season and what happened in the middle 8s. If you want to get excited about that, then that's your problem.
I can honestly say you have took too many post too seriously or you've perceived them wrong.
Maybe you need to have a word with Mr Jagger, He's never serious.
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Don't worry, I've a thick enough skin to take it
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| In all honesty, it's the attitude of 'we will be in super league', 'we deserve super league'. This attitude is evident at all levels from fan to director. It rubs people up the wrong way. A little bit of humility goes a long way. This attitude has meant that Leigh are the only underdog that nobody wants to back in a game.'"
I agree with your post for the most part there bentleberry, especially the "little bit of humility goes a long way" statement.
I for one have always avoided the we will be promoted, we are invicible etc types of claims, purely because you fall on your own sword if your Club then fails to achieve.
A little perspective though, I have spoken to many fans, including Wigan & Salford who have said they would LOVE Leigh to be back in Super League, some officials of other SL Clubs have also made similar comments.
Why do they want Leigh in Super League ? What is the benefit ?
Take 2 of the friendlies from last weekend, Leigh v Wigan - attendance 4614 or Widnes v Halifax - attendance 1396. That is a difference of 3208 & almost 4x bigger crowd at Championship Leigh over SL Widnes.
Factor in also that Wigan's away following was a laughable 400 > 500 at a stretch & you can see that Leigh will bring increased revenue to all Super League Clubs with a very strong travelling number in Championship, this would almost certainly increase in SL.
Then there is The NOISE, take 10, 000 Wigan fans in the DW * or the 400 that came to Leigh * & you would be forgiven for thinking they were in a Library.
Take 1500 or 2000 travelling Leigh fans * 4000 @ Wire in the CCQF * & they make more din than 10,000 Wigan fans ever could.
Like us or loathe us, we bring fans & plenty of them, we bring the noise & so therefore atmosphere.
Salford v Leigh in the 8's - at least as many Leigh fans as home fans.
Wakefield v Leigh CC - 50 % or more Leigh fans.
The team bring the flair & attractive attacking, exciting brand of RL & that is why Sky & the BBC wanted Leigh on the TV.
It has to be said that Bradford also bring much of this & Halifax are none to shabby, but Fax do not have the fan base or the brand of RL & only Bradford exceed our average gates & match our away support.
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| It's not about how many fans travel away and who has what.It's enjoyment of the game that always prevails.As far as I'm aware the goals and targets have to be met this season.
For that reason as Demon said,this season will be open to the failure of last season..For the faint hearted I suggest you leave "ignore on"..Or join the party, the choice is yours!
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| Quote ="atomic"It's not about how many fans travel away and who has what.It's enjoyment of the game that always prevails.As far as I'm aware the goals and targets have to be met this season.
For that reason as Demon said,this season will be open to the failure of last season..For the faint hearted I suggest you leave "ignore on"..Or join the party, the choice is yours!'"
Atomic has spoken,well I can't keep my eyes open after reading this,I'm so tired.
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| Quote ="Cokey"Well the key here is you guys and Bradfurt for that matter are dwelling too much on last season and what happened in the middle 8s. If you want to get excited about that, then that's your problem.
I can honestly say you have took too many post too seriously or you've perceived them wrong.
Maybe you need to have a word with Mr Jagger, He's never serious.
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Hokey, my son Lintle thinks you agree with everybody,WHY?
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| It really is bewildering where all this vitriol have come from. I've never particularly wanted any club to do badly (with the exception of w!g@n but that's compulsory as a Leyther), when Fev were on top I said it was a shame SL was closed to them & supported them when they beat Cas in the Challenge Cup, many Fev fans seem to have taken the entirely opposite attitude to our success with constant slander and conspiracy theories about our players. One of the best things about RL was that fans of all clubs had a comradery, got on well with each other and could have a laugh and a chat in good nature. Now some fans seem to be getting worse than football fans for petty vindictiveness, it'd be a shame if this small group of vocal idiots spoil one of the best features of our sport.
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| You're right LS. It used to be called banter. None of what I read today on twitter this morning could be classed as banter towards DB for example. It was vicious and downright nasty and these are becoming a little less of a minority.
I wish I had the time or inclination to keep all the comments just on the off chance we got promoted and I could force them back down their throats.
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| Quote ="DemonUK"You're right LS. It used to be called banter. None of what I read today on twitter this morning could be classed as banter towards DB for example. It was vicious and downright nasty and these are becoming a little less of a minority.
[uI wish I had the time or inclination to keep all the comments just on the off chance we got promoted and I could force them back down their throats.'" [/u
Well said D.
And now I await Mick Jagger's reply.
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| Quote ="DemonUK"You're right LS. It used to be called banter. None of what I read today on twitter this morning could be classed as banter towards DB for example. It was vicious and downright nasty and these are becoming a little less of a minority.
I wish I had the time or inclination to keep all the comments just on the off chance we got promoted and I could force them back down their throats.'"
Derek I've never been on Twitter ,so I haven't seen or read about what has been said about Derek B,how can I see what has been said about him?
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| Quote ="Cokey"[/u
Well said D.
And now I await Mick Jagger's reply.
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Derek, I don't think Mr Jagger is nasty or vicious with his comments , they strike me as him being a wind up Merchant .
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| Mr Who? Anyway I never mentioned who was saying what. That's immaterial to my general observation that we might now be approaching Wigan on the hatred scale
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| Quote ="DemonUK"Mr Who? Anyway I never mentioned who was saying what. That's immaterial to my general observation that we might now be approaching Wigan on the hatred scale
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Derek look at my reply, it was to Cokey who is also called Derek.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Derek, I don't think Mr Jagger is nasty or vicious with his comments , they strike me as him being a wind up Merchant .'"
Ian, I realize that. I just think his post are pointless and meaningless & little irritating sometimes. That's what he strives to do with his post. I just let them go over my head really and have a little fun with him.
Ian, have you found out who bertie is yet?
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| Quote ="Cokey"Ian, I realize that. I just think his post are pointless and meaningless & little irritating sometimes. That's what he strives to do with his post. I just let them go over my head really and have a little fun with him.
Ian, have you found out who bertie is yet?'"
Derek I don't think many posters on the Forums are vicious or nasty, most have a bit of banter or a wind up,its all very lighthearted,as for Bertie?Well it's week end and nothing been said,I don't know anything,maybe he isn't coming.
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| The forum is gentle next to what else is out there. I was thinking of contacting them stating they had won a prize and saying they had to come to a certain place to collect it and celebrate. Their real prize will be to say to Gaz H and DB exactly what they have said about them and give Gaz and Derek a right of reply
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Derek I don't think many posters on the Forums are vicious or nasty, most have a bit of banter or a wind up,its all very lighthearted,[uas for Bertie?Well it's week end and nothing been said,I don't know anything,maybe he isn't coming.
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Like you say Ian a bit of a wind up.
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| Hopefully today's result will bring the fans who predicted world domination back down to earth!
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| Quote ="THECherry&Whites"Hopefully today's result will bring the fans who predicted world domination back down to earth!'"
WHAT! are you for real. I know, let's have a go at those who think their club will do well . FFS
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| There's a difference between thinking we will do well and shoving down the throats of opposition fans at every opportunity.
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| Quote ="Cokey"WHAT! are you for real. I know, let's have a go at those who think their club will do well
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Don't see anyone having a go?
I think the point is that for all our promise and all the signings we've made we played a top SL club today and got an absolute schooling.
They beat Widnes 40 - 0 so not too concerned but we have a lot to work on from today.
Shame 4 of our new signings had to sit this one out though. Would expect Chase, Hansen and Maitua all to come back in time for the Batley game and that should strengthen us a lot. Shame Tonga has picked up an injury so early on.
McNally is a BIG loss. Need to get Pownall training hard at full back as he hasn't played there very often in recent years.
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| Quote ="Nozzy"[uDon't see anyone having a go?[/u
I think the point is that for all our promise and all the signings we've made we played a top SL club today and got an absolute schooling.
They beat Widnes 40 - 0 so not too concerned but we have a lot to work on from today.
Shame 4 of our new signings had to sit this one out though. Would expect Chase, Hansen and Maitua all to come back in time for the Batley game and that should strengthen us a lot. Shame Tonga has picked up an injury so early on.
McNally is a BIG loss. Need to get Pownall training hard at full back as he hasn't played there very often in recent years.'"
Your post should be in reply to Cherry & whites, not mine.
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| Quote ="THECherry&Whites"There's a difference between thinking we will do well and shoving down the throats of opposition fans at every opportunity.'"
What are you on about? and who are you referring to?
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| Quote ="Cokey"WHAT! are you for real. I know, let's have a go at those who think their club will do well
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Cokey stop being so defensive about these sorts of posts. We all know we had a couple of fans last season who went way over the top. That's who the comments are aimed at
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| Quote ="Iggy79"Cokey stop being so defensive about these sorts of posts. We all know we had a couple of fans last season who went way over the top. That's who the comments are aimed at'"
Now you are just as bad. A couple as you say,why the hell should anyone want to make a big massive issue out of it.
I am actually defending the majority of true fans who will stick by the team. Read my post again.
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