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| Quote ="DemonUK"Only 2 points for a win this year so it definitely won't be 16 points'"
No bonus points this year then?
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| Quote ="fevfan76"You had zero competition though. We came second yet lost quite a few games to lower teams and had a ridiculous amount of injuries.. We are much stronger next season, so are Sheffield. Bradford and london are now in the league and I'm sure Fax will be a tougher team.'"
Keighley Cougars (12) 26-28 (20) Leigh Centurions
Halifax RLFC (24) 28-36 (6) Leigh Centurions
Dewsbury Rams (icon_cool.gif 12-28 (0)Leigh Centurions
Leigh Centurions (1icon_cool.gif 26-24 (12) Halifax RLFC
Doncaster RLFC (6) 24-16 (16) Leigh Centurions
Not quite sure about Zero competition, some very hard & close games we just managed to scrape a win out of last season.
Obviously next season is going to be much harder as the quality of the league has improved dramatically, whole bottom 1/4 has gone & 2 SL sides have come in, there's more money going round for everyone and teams have made good signings. Still think we've improved on quality & gone full time means we’ll be able to finish up where we want to be.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"I think London will do a lot better than most are predicting, their team on paper is very good its really going to be about how they travel that will play a big part in if they can top the league or not. Leigh will obviously be better than last season but Im not sure if they will be better than London or Bradford though, it would be nice if they were.
Fev dont look stronger to me and could still see some of their higher earners leave before the start of the season if any teams are willing to pick up their wages. I think Sheffields time has passed and do not see them been any better than last year really. Donny I cant really say as i do not know what to expect with them, they wont have the spending power of other teams and maybe could get left behind but they have shocked us before so who knows. Dewsbury have improved and i think they will be the team pushing Fev and Fax for the 4th spot.
As for Fax I think we will be a lot better than last season, the change of coach has got the lads buzzing and its great to have a coach who actually encourages and builds confidence rather than one who is continually knocking it. Im really looking forward to seeing our overseas players play especially our two big forwards, we are talking 2 players who are well over 6 foot and can comfortably do 65 minutes and over 40 odd tackles per game. When you compare that to someone like Tonka doing 30 minutes and about 15 tackles per game that will make a big difference to our pack. If we are not still in the hunt for 4th with a couple of games to go I would be disappointed.
At the bottom we will see Haven, Batley and Hunslet battle it out for bottom spot.'"
Rovers are much, much stronger than last season 10 signings that are a level above the ones released will im sure ensure we at least finish 4th. Plus a full off season under hay we may not be full time but we have increased our training times by a considerable amount. No Probiz or the ex clown CEO to distract the players this season either, plus I know for a fact some cash been put to 1 side to see if we need freshening up mid-season. I will be putting a large bet on that we finish in the top 4
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| Quote ="gingdong"Rovers are much, much stronger than last season 10 signings that are a level above the ones released will im sure ensure we at least finish 4th. Plus a full off season under hay we may not be full time but we have increased our training times by a considerable amount. No Probiz or the ex clown CEO to distract the players this season either, plus I know for a fact some cash been put to 1 side to see if we need freshening up mid-season. I will be putting a large bet on that we finish in the top 4'"
Who are the 10 new signings?
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| Quote ="Nozzy"Who are the 10 new signings?'"
The 4 lads from leeds Baldwinson, Foster, Minns and Tonks, Paul Sykes from wakey, millard the Fijian from Rochdale. ryan Vallinden the giant Aussie prop, Sam Irwin the Aussie half back. There is a cook Island international prop that the club haven't named yet and another 2 backs deals about done, so 11 not 10. Im sure with these additions we wont do any worse than last season which will see us in the top 4
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| Quote ="gingdong"The 4 lads from leeds Baldwinson, Foster, Minns and Tonks, Paul Sykes from wakey, millard the Fijian from Rochdale. ryan Vallinden the giant Aussie prop, Sam Irwin the Aussie half back. There is a cook Island international prop that the club haven't named yet and another 2 backs deals about done, so 11 not 10. Im sure with these additions we wont do any worse than last season which will see us in the top 4'"
Gingy , my friend , hope you are well?After our chat in the Fev Hotel earlier in the Season , I know you always say what you think , no matter what and I respect your views , however I don't think Fev will be as strong as the past few seasons.In my opinion I cant see you getting in the top 4 , look forward to our early game at POR .Charlie .
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| Quote ="gingdong"Rovers are much, much stronger than last season 10 signings that are a level above the ones released will im sure ensure we at least finish 4th. Plus a full off season under hay we may not be full time but we have increased our training times by a considerable amount. No Probiz or the ex clown CEO to distract the players this season either, plus I know for a fact some cash been put to 1 side to see if we need freshening up mid-season. I will be putting a large bet on that we finish in the top 4'"
I cant see it to be honest. Talking to a lad who knows the Leeds players well he does not expect them to be standout at this level and thinks theres a good chance they will be bit part players and this is just seen as a small step in their development, Leeds will decide what to do with them after this season.
I must ask the question if Fev have money put to one side then why are they so eager to offload their top earners?
I wouldnt bet more than you can afford to lose on Fev finishing in the top 4.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"I cant see it to be honest. Talking to a lad who knows the Leeds players well he does not expect them to be standout at this level and thinks theres a good chance they will be bit part players and this is just seen as a small step in their development, Leeds will decide what to do with them after this season.
I must ask the question if Fev have money put to one side then why are they so eager to offload their top earners?
I wouldnt bet more than you can afford to lose on Fev finishing in the top 4.'"
Fev arnt off loading top earners at all there offloading players deemed not upto standard anymore. Just got rid of George Flannagan do you seriously think he was a top earner?? Don't forget we come 2nd and won 450k How much do you want to wager we will finish above fax again
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| Quote ="gingdong"Fev arnt off loading top earners at all there offloading players deemed not upto standard anymore. Just got rid of George Flannagan do you seriously think he was a top earner?? Don't forget we come 2nd and won 450k How much do you want to wager we will finish above fax again'"
I never said Flannagan was a top earner, Im talking about a few of your more high profile players that are been offered to any clubs willing to pick up the wage bill. RFF knows............
£450K and still offloading high earners, not paying the taxman, and having to take an advance on monies for next season from the RFL. I think its a good job for this competition that Fev managed to get 2nd because I think its a better league with a decent Fev team in it and that would not have happened if it wernt for that money.
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| Top 4.
1.Bradford Bulls
2.London Broncos
3.Leigh centurions
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None will get promotion to super league.
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| I would disagree about your prediction of league positions and your concluding sentence.
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| Don't know where your infos coming from Greg but im very sorry to disappoint, I know our chairman and I shared a few pints with him last Friday. The only players been offered are the ones we don't want, even quotes Andy Hay saying so in the local paper today, he says no one else is leaving. the tax bill was 11k I bet most clubs owe that, we haven't had a forward of the money that's rubbish. The chairman is very optimistic about us this year and beyond as we have 10 units to rent out in the ground that will bring us a big monthly income and the new gym been built under the stand will be hired to the public will also bring income monthly. In fact he is hoping the match day income will just be a bonus and the real money will come in the hiring of the units. Like I say I will put my money where my mouth is how much you want to wager we will finish above fax next season
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| What are business rents like in a town where hardly anyone lives? Most businesses prefer to locate closer to populous areas. 15,000 people isn't much of a market to sell to or employ from, and if people are expected to travel then that's going to put up business costs making it less attractive.
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| Quote ="Mike87"None will get promotion to super league.'"
Not so sure, considering how close Leigh got to Leeds in the Challenge cup, now we've gone full time and added even more quality and depth to the squad; Bradford will be much better now they've got their money problems sorted & London have had a proper pre-season this year so have to be better than last year. The clubs that have been happy to squander money & do nothing for years on end sitting at the bottom of Super League are going to have to really up their game next season.
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| Yes but how many of the clubs at the bottom end will actually be able to up their game. Maybe we will see one of the 'bigger' clubs falter and end up in the bottom 4. Now that would make the middle 8 interesting.
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| Quote ="gingdong"Don't know where your infos coming from Greg but im very sorry to disappoint, I know our chairman and I shared a few pints with him last Friday. The only players been offered are the ones we don't want, even quotes Andy Hay saying so in the local paper today, he says no one else is leaving. the tax bill was 11k I bet most clubs owe that, we haven't had a forward of the money that's rubbish. The chairman is very optimistic about us this year and beyond as we have 10 units to rent out in the ground that will bring us a big monthly income and the new gym been built under the stand will be hired to the public will also bring income monthly. In fact he is hoping the match day income will just be a bonus and the real money will come in the hiring of the units. Like I say I will put my money where my mouth is how much you want to wager we will finish above fax next season'"
Why are agents still offering your players about?
Anyway I never said Fax will finish above Fev but hey ho, £50 to the charity of the winners choice?
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| Quote ="Michael_Ward"What are business rents like in a town where hardly anyone lives? Most businesses prefer to locate closer to populous areas. 15,000 people isn't much of a market to sell to or employ from, and if people are expected to travel then that's going to put up business costs making it less attractive.'"
Featherstone I actually in Pontefract and the total population is some 60k plus all the surrounding villages makes the area much bigger than people think, anyway our chairman seems to think it will be a winner so that will do for me
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Greg the players offered are the ones that don't figure in Andy Hays plans if it were only high earners then Jamie Cording would be 1st on the list but hes staying. Im up for the charity bet what about www.whenyouwishuponastar.org.uk/ a fantastic cause and I can assure you I will honour it if im wrong
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Greg the players offered are the ones that don't figure in Andy Hays plans if it were only high earners then Jamie Cording would be 1st on the list but hes staying. Im up for the charity bet what about www.whenyouwishuponastar.org.uk/ a fantastic cause and I can assure you I will honour it if im wrong
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Why are agents still offering your players about?
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why do rumours about which players Fev are offering about always seem to originate from Fax fans?
Not saying they are untrue btw - I have no idea. I'm more concerned with how this information is getting out to the type of people who frequent message boards.
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Quote ="gingdong"Greg the players offered are the ones that don't figure in Andy Hays plans if it were only high earners then Jamie Cording would be 1st on the list but hes staying. Im up for the charity bet what about www.whenyouwishuponastar.org.uk/ a fantastic cause and I can assure you I will honour it if im wrong'"
Like I say the winner gets to choose his own charity, but im fine if I lose paying it to which ever charity you like.
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Like I say the winner gets to choose his own charity, but im fine if I lose paying it to which ever charity you like.
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| Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"why do rumours about which players Fev are offering about always seem to originate from Fax fans?
Not saying they are untrue btw - I have no idea. I'm more concerned with how this information is getting out to the type of people who frequent message boards.'"
Agents contact clubs saying which players are available, that info gets leaked a lot of the time. All it takes is a "guess who fev(insert team) offered us?" conversation between a few people and the news is out. Moore seems to be the biggest one at Fev that they are struggling to shift.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Agents contact clubs saying which players are available, that info gets leaked a lot of the time. All it takes is a "guess who fev(insert team) offered us?" conversation between a few people and the news is out. Moore seems to be the biggest one at Fev that they are struggling to shift.'"
You haven't answered the question, which was why do these rumours always seem to emanate from Fax fans, and only from Fax fans?
Apologies to Leigh fans for this diversion on your board.
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| Quote ="Lowton_Sparrow"Not so sure, considering how close Leigh got to Leeds in the Challenge cup, now we've gone full time and added even more quality and depth to the squad; Bradford will be much better now they've got their money problems sorted & London have had a proper pre-season this year so have to be better than last year. The clubs that have been happy to squander money & do nothing for years on end sitting at the bottom of Super League are going to have to really up their game next season.'"
A one off game means nothing, you had no competition in your league this year, you played your best against Leeds and they were poor, you have two super league quality teams next year who will Imo be stronger over the course of the season, anyway I don't see any super league team losing their place to any of the 3 in the championship their just a lot stronger overall.
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| Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"You haven't answered the question, which was why do these rumours always seem to emanate from Fax fans, and only from Fax fans?
Apologies to Leigh fans for this diversion on your board.'"
We have the biggest mouths. In all seriousness though the thing about the advance in RFL funding came from the Keighley chairman, the thing about players been offered could have come from any club in the league. I have seen from a Hunslet fan about their talks with Kain. I guess theres just a bigger ratio of Fax fans on these boards than most other clubs.
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