pm you in a moment

Not quite what occured, but most likely to take any opportunity to upset Saints 1 remaining HB, which is what Flowers did with the original punch when running past Hohia

That's what happens when you get spoiled all season by watching Leigh "The Entertainers" Centurions.

Imagine how good we could be having that level of bulk/conditioning and the type of RL we have played this season
I thought it was lacking skill with the little flair coming from Wigan and think the refs this year need to take a long hard look at how they officiate games and realise the industry we are in
Flower will get 16 games

Well he won't despite what he did. Daft beggar lost his head in a moment of madness and he will have suffered already as a consequence of his actions.

He will get 4 games imo and should be made to pay me back my ticket money for ruining what could have been a good game.

I personally don't think it will harm our game one bit and as the say "you can't really get bad press". I think he will get an even ten game ban. I also think he realised what he was doing just before he landed the second punch. Had he punch him twice while on the floor you could wave him bye -bye forever.
Do you think it was worse than Eric Cantona's flying kick? No, not by a country mile. A very, very stupid thing to do which no doubt will tighten the rules on the biff for next year. Me thinks we will see a good few red cards at the start of next season. even for a push. What I really would hate to happen is the RFL go overboard and give the Ref's a mandate to send players off just for raising their hands, like in fuzzball.

I'm sure your local RU coach will happily use it to entice new juniors rather than them playing the ' thugs ' game

TV boy what planet do you live on?

The independent disciplinary board will meet tomorrow and comprises Judge Chris Batty, Danny Sculthorpe and Neil Turley.

Nonsense - it made it a very interesting equation - which was worse, losing your best prop or your only real playmaker? That question was only decided in the last 5 minutes. It probably wouldn't have been as close with 13 v 13.

Besides, teams can't all play like Leigh you know!

www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... tions.html Doesn't look too good for Flower does it ? OK I have changed my mind you are right mapleyther.

www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... tions.html Doesn't look too good for Flower does it ? OK I have changed my mind you are right mapleyther.

What has really wound me up this morning is the BBC. After having very sensible interviews with Paul Wellens, Jonathon Davies and Ralph Rimmer they decided not to interview an RL fan about the reason no one had complained to the police about the attack, but an RU fan who did complain.
I am on this planet LC luv. RL is all over the news at the moment and I will be suppried if Flower gets more than ten games due to his previous behaviour.
The other thing is in RFU a player is allowed to stamp all over an defenceless opposing player in the ruck and doesn't get sent off. This results are some horrendous injuries.

Been Charged with Grade F (8+ matches), deservedly so. Have to wait till tomorrow to see just how many, hopefully they'll set an example after all the negative publicity he's brought the sport. www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?5848

Been Charged with Grade F (8+ matches), deservedly so. Have to wait till tomorrow to see just how many, hopefully they'll set an example after all the negative publicity he's brought the sport. www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?5848

Think we should be careful with this thread. The police are investigating, if they press charges then it would become a sub-judice matter

The saints player s been charged too

Do you think the police will let him off ?

It was a disgusting violent act but the most important game of the season had just kicked off, Flowers is pumping adrenalin in front of 70,000 screaming fans. He's hit with a forearm and he turns into the raging Hulk. The red mist came down for him. He's lucky he managed to stop thumping. I'm just glad Hohaia has recovered. It was sickening to watch but he will regret that burst of temper for the rest of his life. I just hope they don't get the police involved and he gets a lengthy ban and that all parties can make up. The Union loving press are loving it.

I still think wane is to blame .
If u watch the video he said knock someone out be reckless Anything to win , he got them so wound up , that's why Flowers did what he did

That video is from years ago when Wigan were in Australia and has been very carefully edited. It's on a documentary.

Hohaia has made an early guilty plea and been given a one match ban.

I have to say that having seen Lance's initial elbow, that is worthy of a sending off also. In no way am I defending Ben Flower's actions but if he had not given Lance the second shot we would not be all talking about this now. My personal view is that Ben Flower pulled the second shot and it looked worse than it was in slow motion. It makes a mockery when you see RU players blatantly stamping on another players face and not being dismissed.

that's just it Lances wasn' t the initial start of it Flowers took a swipe at Lance, hence his retiliation

You see players get pushed out of the way when they are dawdling in the offensive line every week.

Video is from this season, as the team is wearing this seasons kit.