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| Quote ="JENKY"Not doubting anything people have said but is it official that Sam is in hospital with a fractured skull / bleeding etc or was he sent for precautionary tests?
Don't wish to offend anyone but the lad will have family and friends maybe not reading it on here but certainly picking up on whats said from comments on here and a precautionary scan to ensure everything is ok (whilst still unacceptable from an off ball RL incident) is a lot different and a lot less worrying than to him heading to hospital in a emergency ambulance with bleeding on the brain.
Have the club put anything out on twitter to state how he is?'"
Fair comment, scans aren't usual done until arrival at hospital.
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| And to the Halifax fans I heard coming off the ground tonight calling sam a disgrace you should be ashamed of yourselves. Hope he gets well soon.
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| Whatever happened to the old 'sine die' ruling - mentioned earlier in this thread? I'm sure Jason Donohue was handed one back in the early 90's (although it was later rescinded).
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| Every RL fan will hope Sams ok not just Leythers.
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| Harrison needs charging he told his players to do what they did Nasty nasty man
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| I wondered what was going on when I saw the ambulance arrive at the LSV then pass us on the Lancs. I really hope that Sam is ok and all this is just precautionary.
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"Harrison needs charging he told his players to do what they did Nasty nasty man'"
I would be surprised if he wanted that to happen.
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| I love a tough game but did you count the number of times we were hit late in back play fooking disgrace and reffy will try to defend it, not tonight pal
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| Liam Kay tweeted just a
Sam ok but being keep in under obs scan was clear
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| Great news Lynda.
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| I wouldn't wish a serious injury on anyone but things just don't add up, if he had a suspected fractured skull then there's a good chance this would have been picked up on by the doctors yet it must have been a good 20 minutes before he was 'rushed' to hospital and on the bench he actually looked pretty keen to get back out there.
It's like Chinese whispers and I think we should all wait and see before judging, manning isn't a dirty player but the tackle deserved a red card but it wasn't from behind like someone has said and someone else said they saw the tackle then goes on to say they didn't sent the bloke who made it off.
From my view point it was very very late but looked like a shove to the chest so I was quite surprised with all this coming out but I'm holding judgment till I see the replay.
I'm also seeing a lot about Fax's tactics but they were not dissimilar to Leigh's in the first game if everyone is honest.
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| Quote ="Nostradamus's lad"reffy will try to defend it, not tonight pal'"
Even our resident 'Bill Arrogant' will struggle to defend the indefensible.
Please enlighten me with young Andy Braececk's post match comments?
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"I wouldn't wish a serious injury on anyone but things just don't add up, if he had a suspected fractured skull then there's a good chance this would have been picked up on by the doctors yet it must have been a good 20 minutes before he was 'rushed' to hospital and on the bench he actually looked pretty keen to get back out there.
It's like Chinese whispers and I think we should all wait and see before judging, manning isn't a dirty player but the tackle deserved a red card but it wasn't from behind like someone has said and someone else said they saw the tackle then goes on to say they didn't sent the bloke who made it off.
From my view point it was very very late but looked like a shove to the chest so I was quite surprised with all this coming out but I'm holding judgment till I see the replay.
I'm also seeing a lot about Fax's tactics but they were not dissimilar to Leigh's in the first game if everyone is honest.'"
Greg I love you pal but cowardice is not something RL should tolerate, it's a tough game and cheap shot opportunities are countless tonight that seemed your gameplan and your team should have beaten us at RL not needing the feathers
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| Sad to hear, Hope its not as serious as some rumours suggest and Sam makes full recovery.
Games tough enough without players going out to intentionally hurt other players
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"I wouldn't wish a serious injury on anyone but things just don't add up, if he had a suspected fractured skull then there's a good chance this would have been picked up on by the doctors yet it must have been a good 20 minutes before he was 'rushed' to hospital and on the bench he actually looked pretty keen to get back out there.
It's like Chinese whispers and I think we should all wait and see before judging, manning isn't a dirty player but the tackle deserved a red card but it wasn't from behind like someone has said and someone else said they saw the tackle then goes on to say they didn't sent the bloke who made it off.
From my view point it was very very late but looked like a shove to the chest so I was quite surprised with all this coming out but I'm holding judgment till I see the replay.
I'm also seeing a lot about Fax's tactics but they were not dissimilar to Leigh's in the first game if everyone is honest.'"
No the tactics were similar but the severity at the way they were carried out were miles apart. You can't say that rubbing your head in some ones face in the wrestle is equal to trying to severely injure a player can you? On any other day you should have been down to ten players. You can call Karl Harrison a bad coach and sending a side out to do that is a sign of a very stupid coach but Fax played some very good rugby tonight. Who coached them to do that then?
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| Sam was rushed to hospital - I say rushed as it was a blue light and sirens job - after being taken from the field of play his condition deteriorated and the match Doctor ordered an Ambulance, on assesment by Drs and Paramedics it was decided to take him to Salfords Hope Hospital and the head trauma unit was put on alert for the ambulances arrival.
My own review of the incident I shall not comment on but as an ex police officer of 24yrs service if I had witnesses that out side of a Rugby Field Manning would have been arrested.
As for the Police reviewing the video at this stage nobody has asked me to view anything and it is my footage the RFL discipline panel will make their initial decisions on, a copy of which I will upload to the Championship review video website as soon as it is rendered into the right format.
As for the so called argument put forward on here re Leighs tactics at Halifax there was no one injured enough to attend hospital on that night and two wrongs do not make a right.
No 'Chinese whispers' there just straight facts, I wont repeat the comment made to me from a member of the Halifaxs coaching staff re Manning's previous conduct, but some Fax fans may well have to take their blue tinted glasses off if they had heard them.
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| Paul Rowley said he was being rushed to Hospital unconscious with a suspected broken skull; Liam Kay tweeted the scans are clear & he's being kept in for observation. Really hope he's alright, been a fantastic player for us.
Halifax were disgraceful, I lost count of the number of times Barlow (and others) ended up on the floor in back play, taken out late or simply off the ball. It was obvious Halifax came simply to try to hurt people tonight. Karl Halifax RL should face some sort of disciplinary action for "playing" that way and Chris Leatherbarrow should be suspended from professional refereeing for a while for letting a game get so out of hand.
Leigh's tactics at Fax were entirely different, Fax's backs were tearing us apart so we sent on a big pack to (legally) rough it up a bit and make it more of a physical contest, it worked. Fax just came to try to hurt people, get people sent off and tier out Leigh, fortunately that plan didn't work.
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| Well thank god Sam is ok.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Looks like you guys will be getting more money from me so I can watch the video.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Looks like you guys will be getting more money from me so I can watch the video.
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Greg you should be neck and neck with Fev, you know why you aren't Tonight wont spoil my opinion of Fax and its fans but you need a new coach who can use the great players you have, and not condone what I saw tonight
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| Quote ="Hindsfordleyther79"Fred will be pleased
ps Greg - no hard feelings regarding any posts'"
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| Quote ="Mediateam"I do not get a penny from LC TV.'"
But that won't stop you from being pleased for the Club though
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"I wouldn't wish a serious injury on anyone but things just don't add up, if he had a suspected fractured skull then there's a good chance this would have been picked up on by the doctors yet it must have been a good 20 minutes before he was 'rushed' to hospital and on the bench he actually looked pretty keen to get back out there.'"
Sorry Greg but what you describe (if indeed that is how it rolled out) is very much in line with some skull fractures. I can talk from direct family experience when my son fell backwards off playground apparatus and hit the back of his head on the ground. When first looked at by a doctor, almost immediately after, he was thought to have a slight concussion but he quickly began to deteriorate and quickly ended up in trauma with a basal skull fracture. He made a full, if slow recovery, but my point is, what you describe is exactly what a skull fracture can look like. Sorry Greg but it adds up perfectly to me.
To Sam, I hope you get good news and we see you back on the field very soon. You are a fan favorite, one of my favorites, and a key spark in our team. Get well soon Sam.
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