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| Quote ="Michael_Ward"Fev aim to bring 1000+, Leigh want 3,000+ home fans to turn out.
That's 4000+ in the stadium. Wow! Feed that in to the Fev shared gate calculator and it comes out as ~1800.
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You need to do your calculations again its definitely 1400.
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| Quote ="FevGrinder"Someone has to love him Charlie just glad it's you
PS in truth if you can get to talk to gingdong do so, he a good lad but just a little biased
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We are ALL biased for our own team , ive spoken with many much worse than Gingdong , you want to spend a hour with Salfordlad .Hes Leighs answer to Complan .
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| Quote ="gingdong"Dont fall into the trap of believing the small village myth, in reality Rovers pull from 3 towns not just 1 like you lot. Knottingley, Ponte and fev not to mention Ackworth and the surrounding villages.'"
Of course, any reasonable person understands that Fev's catchment area is not limited to Fev itself.
However, given the proximity to Cas, Wakefield and even Leeds, I'd have to suggest that Fev are not the only team drawing support from the areas mentioned.
As a comparison, here is a list the population totals for the areas you mentioned:
Featherstone - 15,244
Pontefract - 28,250
Knottingley - 13,503
Ackworth - 6,493
Total : 63,490
Here are the figures that represent Leigh and the smaller towns and villages bordering the town and strongly associated with Leigh:
Leigh - 46,000
Tyldesley - 34,022
Atherton - 22,000
Lowton - 11,012
Total: 102,022
Clearly, there are more places that could be included in either total.
What stands out to me is the % numbers of people in each catchment area that live in the place the team represents. These people are the most likely to have affinity with the club and become loyal, longterm fans. At Leigh, 45% of the catchment area is in the town. For Featherstone, it is 24% of a smaller total.
However, I don't think the town sizes and catchment areas are a particular problem for either club at the moment. It isn't necessary to attract 25,000+ to establish a team as a decent Super League team, given that most RL clubs are poorly run and are underachieving.
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| Very interesting FACTS there Michael .
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| Quote ="Michael_Ward"Of course, any reasonable person understands that Fev's catchment area is not limited to Fev itself.
However, given the proximity to Cas, Wakefield and even Leeds, I'd have to suggest that Fev are not the only team drawing support from the areas mentioned.
As a comparison, here is a list the population totals for the areas you mentioned:
Featherstone - 15,244
Pontefract - 28,250
Knottingley - 13,503
Ackworth - 6,493
Total : 63,490
Here are the figures that represent Leigh and the smaller towns and villages bordering the town and strongly associated with Leigh:
Leigh - 46,000
Tyldesley - 34,022
Atherton - 22,000
Lowton - 11,012
Total: 102,022
Clearly, there are more places that could be included in either total.
What stands out to me is the % numbers of people in each catchment area that live in the place the team represents. These people are the most likely to have affinity with the club and become loyal, longterm fans. At Leigh, 45% of the catchment area is in the town. For Featherstone, it is 24% of a smaller total.
However, I don't think the town sizes and catchment areas are a particular problem for either club at the moment. It isn't necessary to attract 25,000+ to establish a team as a decent Super League team, given that most RL clubs are poorly run and are underachieving.'"
Featherstone and Pontefract are virtually 1 and the same, if you live in Pont you support Rovers, the only people that support Cas are the non drinking social outcasts, you go to any of the Ponte amateur teams and they will have the token 1 or 2 Cas fans, they are probably more passionate about Rovers than Fev folk believe it or not in my experiences, you dont hear of hardly any Wakey fans at all this side of Fev. This is the reason Rovers have drawn a dozen crowds above there population a feat not many sporting clubs in the world can get near to matching. There are a lot of Cas fans in Knottingley as well as Fev but iv never known coaches go from Knottingley to Cas games but they do to most Rovers games. Rovers have a big area to pull from we are a big club that just happens to be in a small town
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| Quote ="gingdong"we are a big club that just happens to be in a small town'"
I won't dispute that Fev are attracting more fans than they probably should - but please define 'big club', because to my mind you've strayed in to nonsense.
P.S. In terms of population, Featherstone + pontefract < Leigh
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| Quote ="Michael_Ward"I won't dispute that Fev are attracting more fans than they probably should - but please define 'big club', because to my mind you've strayed in to nonsense.
P.S. In terms of population, Featherstone + pontefract < Leigh'"
Depends how you define a big club, you may think its nonsense but the words i used are the exact words the Rovers board use for destination super league propaganda purposes. I define a big club through history (we have that) facilities and future prospects. We own 18 acres of land near the ground, land that will be changing from green belt as hundreds of houses are to be built very near there, this gives us superb future prospects if managed right. We can certainly compete for crowds if in the top flight as have done before, we also have a very wealthy shareholder. Put it another way i would rather be in our position than some so called big clubs currently in super league
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| It doesn’t matter where they're from, just get them down to the game, hopefully they’ll enjoy it and turn up again the following weeks and years. And that applies to either/all clubs.
Quote ="Michael_Ward"
Here are the figures that represent Leigh and the smaller towns and villages bordering the town and strongly associated with Leigh:
Leigh - 46,000
Tyldesley - 34,022
Atherton - 22,000
Lowton - 11,012
Total: 102,022
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So we are currently getting under 2% of our catchment area, you wouldn't think 10% would be too great of an ask, but at 2% it shows how far we have to go.
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| So what is the answer ?
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| Quote ="gingdong"Depends how you define a big club'"
It does, which why I asked you to define it.
Quote the words i used are the exact words the Rovers board use for destination super league propaganda purposes.'"
Come on, we can't just repeat the stuff our clubs tell us. Experience suggests that we'd all be looking massively foolish on a regular basis.
Quote I define a big club through history (we have that)'"
Fev as a club have existed for a while? I can think of many other clubs that have history. Hell, even the Fuldon Bronquins have history.
Quote facilities and future prospects.'"
Your facilities are currently adequate but improving, and quite frankly 'future prospects' can be put in the same folder as Cas, Wakey & Bradford stadium proposals. Show me the reality. Wikipedia suggests you've had stadium proposals on the table, in one form or another, since 2008.
Quote We own 18 acres of land near the ground, land that will be changing from green belt as hundreds of houses are to be built very near there, this gives us superb future prospects if managed right.'"
If it happens, if it is 'managed right'. If's...
When it happens, I'd be keen to accept your argument and Fev
Quote We can certainly compete for crowds if in the top flight as have done before'"
Past performance is not an indicator of future performance, plus your last top flight season was 19 years. That's a long time.
Quote we also have a very wealthy shareholder.'"
We had one of those. Doesn't last...
If this is the probiz guy you're talking about (not sure) then you've got to ask if it's the land and development opportunities attracting him - there's money to be made from that development. I hope it all goes in to the Fev coffers, but I'm not 100% sure it will.
Quote Put it another way i would rather be in our position than some so called big clubs currently in super league'"
I think any ambitious club, run well, can achieve better than probably half of SL because they're run poorly. It's endemic in this sport.
Fev are doing things right, but right now the 'big club' tag is bluster.
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"So what is the answer ?'"
I wish I knew
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| I think the answer is 42.
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| Quote ="salfordlad"I think the answer is 42.'"
Only a Hitchhiker would know that
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"So what is the answer ?'"
what was the question
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| Quote ="fevfan76"what was the question
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"What do you get if you multiply six by nine?"
Six by Nine, Fourty Two
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| To get more then 2% of the towns population down watching the team that's unbeaten 9 games into the season there's just two teams ones us the others is Saints!!!!
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| That big meat raffle they have somewhere in pontefract that always seems to clash with thursday night play off games needs sorting, because it attracts half the usual matchday fev support.
I'd be really annoyed if half our fans dissappeared at the business end of the season.
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| Quote ="fevfan76"what was the question
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If 42 is the answer, the question must be what is the answer to Life The Universe and Everything Else
[urlhttp://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/history/42-the-answer-to-life-the-universe-and-everything-2205734.html[/url
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| Quote ="glow""What do you get if you multiply six by nine?"
Six by Nine, Fourty Two
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cheers, clear as mud
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| Quote ="fevfan76"cheers, clear as mud'"
Its simple , as Ronnie Kray used to say "Look after the ones that love you ".
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| Quote ="fevfan76"cheers, clear as mud'"
"Today must be a Thursday. I never could get the hang of Thursdays."
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"We are ALL biased for our own team , ive spoken with many much worse than Gingdong , you want to spend a hour with Salfordlad
.Hes Leighs answer to Complan .'"
Spent a bit of time in Frank's company, and like most people he's a good lad to know. And contrary to what other people will tell you he’s a very generous sort, he even offered me some of his red wine once (though I think he just wanted someone to get rid of the bottle).
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| Quote ="FevGrinder"Spent a bit of time in Frank's company, and like most people he's a good lad to know. And contrary to what other people will tell you he’s a very generous sort, he even offered me some of his red wine once (though =#FF0000I think he just wanted someone to get rid of the bottle).
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Surely not, if there was money back on the empty? (He's on a fixed income, you know)
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| Have they sold more than 999 tickets yet?
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