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| Keith has my mobile number and we have been in contact, I have personally pledged support to him.
As the towns professional club Leigh Centruions needs a strong Leigh East as Indeed it needs all it's community partners so we shall help in any way possible.
Keep chins up guys,
Andy.
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| Tipster is right - this story really is staggering.
What happened to the London 2012 legacy of encouraging kids to participate in sports?
And what do we reckon is the Councils's plan B?
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| Email to all sent Keith - all the best mate
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| Quote ="Starbug"Foundation'"
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| Quote ="Starbug"Just noticed this subject hasnt been posted on Leighlife mish, is it something that could be discussed there?'"
Absolutely Steve.
Someone who knows a little more about it than I do should go on there and start a thread to make other Leythers aware of what's going on. I'll do anything I can to help raise awareness of this issue.
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| I've sent my emails as I said, and posted on twitter with the #rugbyleague added plus my own tweets
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| I've posted the statement on TRL main, NCL & community forums
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| Quote ="Starbug"Has any contact with other amatuer clubs been established to request their public support?
I will now publically request Leigh Centurions to publically state their support for Leigh East on this issue
This is not a time for ' Fence sitting ' or sing behind your pint in your club house bar, its time for everybody to decide on where they stand, those that have ' talked the talk ' on community need to now decide to walk the walk and state exactly where they stand so the public of Leigh can decide if they are true to their words
Make your minds up gentlemen, we are waiting'"
Steve is there really any need for this kind of public challenge???
We can discuss this like adults when we sit down to discuss other buisness, think we've already demonstrated its not just talk we are here to walk the walk and consider all our community teams as partners moving forward so it's in our intrest we help Leigh East in any way we can. In order to do this we need to establish facts and can't just go off a message board thread.
Would you expect anyone to come out shouting and balling about a subject we have none or very little knowledge of at present???
I'm in contact with Keith and will be sitting down with him hopefully early this week, following this we can make a professional assessment of the situation and determine just how best we can help Leigh East.
I really do wonder at times of how someone who knows how a professional operation should work and conduct itself and has been involved as a director so knows how much work is involved could be so nieve and feel the need to have little digs via a message board every five minutes.
Let's at least be constructive in what we say and do.
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| Quote ="SRW1996"Steve is there really any need for this kind of public challenge???
We can discuss this like adults when we sit down to discuss other buisness, think we've already demonstrated its not just talk we are here to walk the walk and consider all our community teams as partners moving forward so it's in our intrest we help Leigh East in any way we can. In order to do this we need to establish facts and can't just go off a message board thread.
Would you expect anyone to come out shouting and balling about a subject we have none or very little knowledge of at present???
I'm in contact with Keith and will be sitting down with him hopefully early this week, following this we can make a professional assessment of the situation and determine just how best we can help Leigh East.
I really do wonder at times of how someone who knows how a professional operation should work and conduct itself and has been involved as a director so knows how much work is involved could be so nieve and feel the need to have little digs via a message board every five minutes.
Let's at least be constructive in what we say and do.
Andy'"
Unfortunatly it is only by going ' public ' will anything be resolved on this issue , and time is of the essence , apart from that request to Leigh Centurions to show public support , the rest of my post was not aimed at anybody currently at the club , my experience of how the LSV was ' executed ' has left a bad taste in my mouth and many others , mistruths were told , plans were changed , structures altered
The more people within the town who are asking questions , the more chance we have of obtaining the truth , and as we know sometimes you dont always get the truth in politics
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| I don't know what the council are trying to achieve, looking at the figures Leigh East pay now it is a lot of money for a amateur club to pay and if the council think they can get more elsewhere they are seriously deluding themselves, East are paying way to much as it is, who else around the local area would be willing to pay that sort of money the council want? NO ONE
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| If I got a specific government grant to build a specific public place then charged the specific public to use it I'd expect someone important to ask me to justify why I am doing that and where the cash was going.
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| I see the word on twitter is spreading too, just seen that Chris Hill put a tweet out with the link to Leigh Easts statement, good if some pro players get involved to help the cause.
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| I was a proud member at Leigh East.
I took both of my ex-partners children for around 7 years, and I have to say that we were always made to feel welcome and at home, both at Grasmere St and at LSV. I always felt that Easts always had the best interests of their members at heart, and it was somewhere where you could expect your children to be looked after brilliantly.
It's a travesty what is happening and our elected representatives have a moral duty to ensure that Leigh East are treated fairly. To not do so would be a massive blow to the futures of the children of Leigh.
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| Why don't they simply hand over the running of the debt free facility to the sports clubs involved?
Do you need a CEO on god knows how much etc
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| Quote ="Nostradamus's lad"Why don't they simply hand over the running of the debt free facility to the sports clubs involved?
Do you need a CEO on god knows how much etc'"
My sentiments exactly. The various departments within Wigan council could, with ease run the entire site. Finance look after the tenants, leisure trust look after the grassed areas and landscaping etc. etc. yet they choose to pay a " middle man" around £250,000 per year in salaries. Having been solely responsible for the demise of Leigh Genesis LSV co. have a lot to answer for and I wouldn't be the least surprised if they are the people responsible for driving the take over of the Leigh East pavillion.
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| Leigh East were a huge help in assisting LGFC and still provide a great training base for the junior teams. Unfortunately our fight was unsuccessful (LSV lost a £500,000 grant from the Football Foundation because of their refusal to work alongside us at senior level) but I sincerely hope Easts got the right result.
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| Quote ="Alexs Dad"If I got a specific government grant to build a specific public place then charged the specific public to use it I'd expect someone important to ask me to justify why I am doing that and where the cash was going.'"
Spot on.
It would be a question I would be pushing for inclusion on agendas as high up the political ladder as possible.
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| FAO Keith
I've had a reply to one of my emails - should I forward to the blueyonder address in the OP or to you? I presume, there will be more, and I think it's important that you're kept in the loop. I would just copy and paste onto here, but we'd end up with pages and pages of irrelevant stuff that may well do the cause no good whatsoever. Someone needs to peruse them and post any significant, within the law, and relevant bits IMO
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| The staffing cost at the Leigh Centurions side of things from the LSV must be huge, they all travel over from Yorkshire.
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| Let me know you're email address please Keith - private message if you want
BTW Having read the thread on TRL, one point raised was " Wigan Leasure and Cultural Trust not Wigan Council"
see the thread yourself for more said on same matter
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| Quote ="mh"Let me know you're email address please Keith - private message if you want
BTW Having read the thread on TRL, one point raised was " Wigan Leasure and Cultural Trust not Wigan Council"
see the thread yourself for more said on same matter'"
Don't think that's the case Maggie LSV co being a stand alone business with Wigan bc major shareholders.
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| I'm not sure what's what, and that's partly the problem with all this - I'm just contacting anyone & everyone until we get a resolution - amicable hopefully and one that see Leigh East continuing
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| With you 100% Mags, I was also under the impression that council facilities were being handed over for the community to run, is that the case with either anther ton or Tyldesley baths
I would love east and lrlfc take over the running of the LSV, it would save a fortune in salaries let alone become far more community/customer focused
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| Keep your pecker up, Keith and remember Winston's words - "We will never surrender"
The Town and the Sport need Leigh East
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