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| Quote ="mr. chairman"Bloody hell I'm confused , foundation , community, apprenticeship , can someone put it all in a bag and sort it . And why was =#FF0000Steves programme ignored by the men in charge ??????'"
'Cos I was doing it!
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| Conspiracy theories abound again??????
Apprentice scheme started some 8 months ago, Community trust founded two weeks ago - all well 'documented'.
Leigh Centurions Community Department closed end of last season - no money-again well 'documented'.
Apprentice scheme closed last friday - no money to pay them - probably.
As for anything else I would suggest contacting Mr Freer as I dont think you will get an answer on here.
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| Quote ="FredParky"Conspiracy theories abound again??????
Apprentice scheme started some 8 months ago, Community trust founded two weeks ago - all well 'documented'.
Leigh Centurions Community Department closed end of last season - no money-again well 'documented'.
Apprentice scheme closed last friday - no money to pay them - probably.
As for anything else I would suggest contacting Mr Freer as I dont think you will get an answer on here.'"
Not conspiracies Fred, just confusion, I was genuinely under the impression that the Foundation was an ' evolution ' of the apprentice scheme and would be the organisation that would provide the finances for it , if it isnt, then who is Duffs ' managing ' ?
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| Quote ="mr. chairman"Apprenticeship scheme that lasted 8 months , that's poor Fred in any walk of life . I thought that Hannah raised the funding herself through grants , she was pretty savvy at doing this . So the community trust is the foundation , will this run out of money as well Fred'"
The community dept, circa 2003/2011 run by Hannah Forbes did bring in a lot of grant funding, but it did cost the club money , how much is open to discussion
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| Quote ="mr. chairman"On paper it might have done steve , but I can be 100% certain that some of that grant money did not go were it was meant to , if you get my drift'"
In truth Keith because of the way the club operates/operated everything goes into one pot and then everything gets paid out, the problem then arrises when there is nothing left and what is seen as either a luxury or unneccessary or unproductive ( in some eyes ) bill has to be paid, then things get confused and complcated
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| Keith I fail to see why you direct your questions and or statements at me the last time I checked I was just a poor speccy like others, I am just giving out news as I know it the answers you require can be given by one person as in my first reply, like others you mistake my answers as 'sticking up for people' instead of what they are, just statements as I know them.
I stayed away from this forum for a while due to others doing exactly what you are trying to do which is to twist my words and meanings to suit others campaigns, it looks like I will have to do so again.
You more than others know that unfortunately a Rugby Club like Leigh Centurions isn't perfect and that mistakes have always been made no matter who the custodians be. I would suggest if you think or know that any fraud has been committed the people you talk to be the Greater Manchester Police and or The Rugby Football League instead of veiled and not so veiled accusations on an open forum like this one.
People need to put past grudges and or perceived slights behind them and try and take the club forward instead of trying to ground it in old mud it neither assists nor encourages new investment and is damaging to the utmost degree.
So again I leave this forum for a while I will continue to try and make Leigh Centurions into a successful Rugby league club by giving up my time and energies in SUPPORTING ANY FUTURE REGIME no matter whom they be or what mistakes they may make for in the end the only place I'm really bothered about is what goes on on the green bit of the ground and not the politics behind it, petty squabbles and the attempted scoring of political points don't interest me, only the points on the scoreboard by the players be they Internationals or 'ham and eggers'. As for the rest of you go ahead and drown in the sludge of rumours and tickle tackle you are welcome to it. Bye Bye.
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| Is it me or are there some accusations being made on here which are borderline libelous. Some people are not satisfied with trying to remove the people at the top but they clearly want the club to die.
I am joining Fred and leaving what has become a horrible place to inhabit.
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| I m struggling to understand this accusation, why would me chairman be in a meeting involving the community dept and hear about grants being spent inccorrectly? as far as I know it's untrue as well.
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| Not impressed with the wording.
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| Smart logo.
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| A logo and a strapline, but no actual substance, or havent they made their mind up yet ?
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| Quote ="reffy"Not impressed with the wording.'"
I agree, its the wrong way round , I'd prefer the community back watching Leigh Centurions where they belong
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| I too have mainly stopped posting on here because I despair at the 'Anti-Leigh' campaign that is obviously going on.
You can all dress it up and use all the petty excuses you want but the fact of the matter is that you're all causing irreparable damage to the club you profess to love.
I don't know anything more than you all do about the new Community Foundation but it's brand new and unconnected to anything from the past. The website is under construction (as is blatantly obvious to anyone who looks at it), but don't let that stop you from having a good old moan about it.
As has been mentioned, none of us know exactly what they're going to be doing so why condemn it before it even gets off the ground?
Some of you make me sick.
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| I going to ask all about it at the LISA meeting and report back on here.
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You can follow the new community foundation on Twitter to get an idea of what they're doing. As I said earlier it's only just started, and no I have absolutely no connection with it whatsoever, I'm just willing to back rather than berate their efforts.
https://twitter.com/Leighfoundation
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https://twitter.com/Leighfoundation
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| I think all this came about because Fred said Ryan had been made redundant with the other apprentices, when someone asked if Ryan was employed by the Foundation.
Hope both are sucessful, my daughter was lucky enough to be picked from school to go to the new youth zone at wigan and it was fantastic, wouldnt it be great if we could get something similar at Leigh, and I think it is being looked at.
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| Andy you told us last week and the week before what you wanted before you invested a clean sweep off the board room a fresh start all new directors putting the same amount of money up front
Are you now saying this has happened because the club as been silent telling the supporters nothing
If the money is not a substantial amount from each director it will just be eaten up by the bills we have outstanding at present as you well know What the supporters want to know are their any new investors ? Or is this a spin off from the TDC
The team at present is brilliant but if we can’t pay our players and our wages we are in big trouble
We have axed the apprentices costing very little but kept our people on Good Money with a car on the payroll
Andy you’re a business man if you spend more than your income your in big trouble so will one off your first jobs on the board sort this problem out that’s if you can agree with the rest of the investors and the water get cal;m
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https://twitter.com/Leighfoundation'"
Difficult to ' berate ' something if you dont know what it is, which just a logo and a dodgy article in the Journal gave not much to go on, now the twitter page has given more info, so thats more like it
As I posted earlier, I was under the impression the apprentices were in some way connected to this foundation, it seems not, I find no pleasure in seeing them made redundant especially considering at least one of them had decided against going to University on the back of being offered a place
So now we will have to see if the new Foundation can fair any better than previous attempts by community initiatives in bringing in new fans to the club , if that is one of its aims?
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https://twitter.com/Leighfoundation'"
Difficult to ' berate ' something if you dont know what it is, which just a logo and a dodgy article in the Journal gave not much to go on, now the twitter page has given more info, so thats more like it
As I posted earlier, I was under the impression the apprentices were in some way connected to this foundation, it seems not, I find no pleasure in seeing them made redundant especially considering at least one of them had decided against going to University on the back of being offered a place
So now we will have to see if the new Foundation can fair any better than previous attempts by community initiatives in bringing in new fans to the club , if that is one of its aims?
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| Quote ="north stand"Andy you told us last week and the week before what you wanted before you invested a clean sweep off the board room a fresh start all new directors putting the same amount of money up front
Are you now saying this has happened because the club as been silent telling the supporters nothing
If the money is not a substantial amount from each director it will just be eaten up by the bills we have outstanding at present as you well know What the supporters want to know are their any new investors ? Or is this a spin off from the TDC
The team at present is brilliant but if we can’t pay our players and our wages we are in big trouble
We have axed the apprentices costing very little but kept our people on Good Money with a car on the payroll
Andy you’re a business man if you spend more than your income your in big trouble so will one off your first jobs on the board sort this problem out that’s if you can agree with the rest of the investors and the water get cal;m'"
Nothing has yet been agreed and while I can confirm I have been involved in the on-going talks nothing has yet been agreed or finalised hence no press release or statement at present by the club.
I cant and wont comment on any financial matters or perceived cost cutting measures that have allegedly been made as im not part of the current set up and am unaware of the facts.
Its fair to say the immediate task at hand for the new BOD will be to implement a new/revised short term business plan to cover any debt/ losses with new investment and hopefully this will be helped by our great fans reacting to a new era and coming out in numbers to help the club from now until the end of the season and then beyond to exciting times ahead.
Can I just state since holding talks with Keith Freer it has opened my eyes to the difficult job he has had and the hard work he has done along with Trevor Barton and others in making sure we still have a club to watch.
It is very important once any announcements are made everyone pulls together and supports the club in any way they possibly can. A big gate Sunday will help the club and as proved at Featherstone the players really appreciate and thrive on our support.
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| Quote ="SRW1996"Nothing has yet been agreed and while I can confirm I have been involved in the on-going talks nothing has yet been agreed or finalised hence no press release or statement at present by the club.
I cant and wont comment on any financial matters or perceived cost cutting measures that have allegedly been made as im not part of the current set up and am unaware of the facts.
Its fair to say the immediate task at hand for the new BOD will be to implement a new/revised short term business plan to cover any debt/ losses with new investment and hopefully this will be helped by our great fans reacting to a new era and coming out in numbers to help the club from now until the end of the season and then beyond to exciting times ahead.
Can I just state since holding talks with Keith Freer it has opened my eyes to the difficult job he has had and the hard work he has done along with Trevor Barton and others in making sure we still have a club to watch.
It is very important once any announcements are made everyone pulls together and supports the club in any way they possibly can. A big gate Sunday will help the club and as proved at Featherstone the players really appreciate and thrive on our support.
Andy.'"
Andy for me there are NO BETTER fans than Leythers , like most who post on here , i am anxious to hear something positive , to ease the worries we all have , its human nature to get anxious , we just want to hear some sort of news .
As for supporting the Team i agree we need every single fan to turn out on Sunday show their support and appreciation for last weeks performance , and help make a good gate for the Club .
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| Who is on good money and a car mr north stand?
Also what is the substantial amount needed in your opinion?
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