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| I don't think people understood how important LISA was until we nearly went pop.
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| Quote ="mr. chairman"I see your point and agree . Just want the fans to have ownership and don't want to go back to the dark days when one person made decisions . We're would the Lsv lie within this set up'"
The LSV is one big weight around the neck at the moment of the club from what I can see.
I don't know what the current agreement is with LSV but I feel it would need addressing with them imeadiatley and its also my opinion new ways of generating match day income streams need to be found as the present donation/ raffle ticket mentality seems to be very poor also from what I have seen and this IMO is by product of being at LSV.
LSV is Soul less venue with ignorant staff and this while I appreciate this is going off topic it is not helping get new or lapse fans through the gate.
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| Quote ="SRW1996"The LSV is one big weight around the neck at the moment of the club from what I can see.
I don't know what the current agreement is with LSV but I feel it would need addressing with them imeadiatley and its also my opinion new ways of generating match day income streams need to be found as the present donation/ raffle ticket mentality seems to be very poor also from what I have seen and this IMO is by product of being at LSV.
LSV is Soul less venue with ignorant staff and this while I appreciate this is going off topic it is not helping get new or lapse fans through the gate.'"
Blimey, are we going for a new stadium too??????
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"I don't think people understood how important LISA was until we nearly went pop.'"
Lisa could be a massive part of a new set up IMO and it seems without LISA we would not still have a club from what I've seen a heard so a massive pat on the back needs to given to all concerned.
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"I think it's easier to get people to pay on a rolling basis at £x per month rather than find 12 times that once a year. I also think this would help keep membership rolling.
If someone asked me for £700 once a year i'd always have to say no. But if the asked for £60 per month I could afford that.'"
Jonny i applaud your ideas , and sincerity to make the club a success , but some of our fans quibbled about paying 18.00 for 2 matches recently , now you want them to pay £60.00 a month , it wont happen , its like trying to plait FOG .
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| Quote ="Pat Haddigan"Blimey, are we going for a new stadium too??????'"
Wouldn't go that far but I believe one of the first tasks a new BOD needs to look at is to get LSV to the table without delay to renegotiate and iron out operational issues.
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| Quote ="SRW1996"Lisa could be a massive part of a new set up IMO and it seems without LISA we would not still have a club from what I've seen a heard so a massive pat on the back needs to given to all concerned.'"
LISA most important group at the club , look at its input over the past few years , probably the biggest Sponser of the Club , and Lynda works her socks off for the Club and LISA ,ive said this before , if we had another 6-10 Lyndas the club would be OK .
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Jonny i applaud your ideas , and sincerity to make the club a success , but some of our fans quibbled about paying 18.00 for 2 matches recently , now you want them to pay £60.00 a month , it wont happen , its like trying to plait FOG .'"
Totally disagree mate sorry, comparing paying for one Leigh game v an amateur team along with a non Leigh games pricing and the actual future of the entire club is ridiculous.
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| Im told one of Mr O Conners first tasks at Widnes was to focus his attention on Halton Council and the stadium as it was crippling the club and preventing it making money.
LSV would need to know going forward they would be dealing with an aggressive business minded board who treat the fans as their boss as owners of the shares and act only in the best interests of Leigh Centurions whom i may add are LSVs biggest customer.
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"Totally disagree mate sorry, comparing paying for one Leigh game v an amateur team along with a non Leigh games pricing and the actual future of the entire club is ridiculous.'"
Then we agree to Disagree , as i feel most Leythers wont pay this kind of money , some would , but more wouldnt , because of various reasons , the main one being they couldnt afford it , and Jonny you know how many Armchair fans we have .
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| Quote ="SRW1996"Im told one of Mr O Conners first tasks at Widnes was to focus his attention on Halton Council and the stadium as it was crippling the club and preventing it making money.
LSV would need to know going forward they would be dealing with an aggressive business minded board who treat the fans as their boss as owners of the shares and act only in the best interests of Leigh Centurions whom i may add are LSVs biggest customer.'"
You are taking it that the current Leigh BOD , resign i presume ?
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"Totally disagree mate sorry, comparing paying for one Leigh game v an amateur team along with a non Leigh games pricing and the actual future of the entire club is ridiculous.'"
Jonny I'm with you mate.
The cup ticket issue wasn't handled well and should be a lesson learned.
If a new club/ new BOD could be initiated it would need to be a sustainable model so in my opinion fans expectations would need to be drawn in. That said with a new broom so to speak with fan input and ownership and a clear pathway and vision I think people I'll buy in.
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| Quote ="SRW1996"Jonny I'm with you mate.
The cup ticket issue wasn't handled well and should be a lesson learned.
If a new club/ new BOD could be initiated it would need to be a sustainable model so in my opinion fans expectations would need to be drawn in. That said with a new broom so to speak with fan input and ownership and a clear pathway and vision I think people I'll buy in.'"
In an ideal world this would be great , but we dont live in an ideal world , either you know something we dont or these are just big IFS , we have a BOD already , they wont just walk away my own relatives have been approached about putting money into the club , will it happen ?We will have to wait and see .
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"You are taking it that the current Leigh BOD , resign i presume ?'"
I don't know the guys well enough to make a statement like that but I do know from an inspection of companies house records there are only two active shareholding directors at the club, by this I mean shareholders who are currently operating as directors of The Ltd company SCL.
I have been party to meeting and conversations that I can't disclose the Infomation I've received but it is my personal opinion that if a new board could be formed ideally with say 5/6 local companies willing to invest a set figure then a representation from LISA & TDC sufficient revenue could be put in place to take the club forward economically and while starting from scratch with a clear vision to build a sustainable fan owned business model which some day may be able to knock on the SL door if it ever be opened to us again.
Looking at it from a purely business point of view and not as fan my opinion is a new club like what Widnes did would be the best way to make this happen though this would mean sacrificing the SL dream. If we're honest with ourselves it is just a dream anyway at this stage with the club not ready to even contemplate sustaining a realistic bid in its current model all in my option of course.
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| Quote ="mr. chairman"Nice to see that the Buisness people like yourself are interested in Leigh and I hope it's not just the rugby club . Leigh is very close to my heart and that means anything in Leigh , its been sad watching and listening to what's happening to our town not just the rugby club .
As much as I would like to be involved in anything that includes Leigh as a town I'm afraid my time these days are filled by my Buisness and my family [u, I will be involved in a project in the summer to get the westleigh area involved at junior level in rugby league . That as been a long term goal of mine for many years [/u.
I hope that you are involved , as you seem genuine person from your post . Leigh centurions need honest hard working people and someone to unite the club and fans as well as involving the whole town . I will support anything that goes down that path . All the very best and you have my support .'"
Great post mr c and i hope your successful with your project
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| Quote ="SRW1996"I don't know the guys well enough to make a statement like that but I do know from an inspection of companies house records there are only two active shareholding directors at the club, by this I mean shareholders who are currently operating as directors of The Ltd company SCL.
I have been party to meeting and conversations that I can't disclose the Infomation I've received but it is my personal opinion that if a new board could be formed ideally with say 5/6 local companies willing to invest a set figure then a representation from LISA & TDC sufficient revenue could be put in place to take the club forward economically and while starting from scratch with a clear vision to build a sustainable fan owned business model which some day may be able to knock on the SL door if it ever be opened to us again.
Then as i have said you know something we dont , myself im not a Businessman , just a Fan who wants the best for Leigh Centurions and will do anything and everything i can to support and raise funds for my Club , to make them Successful .
Looking at it from a purely business point of view and not as fan my opinion is a new club like what Widnes did would be the best way to make this happen though this would mean sacrificing the SL dream. If we're honest with ourselves it is just a dream anyway at this stage with the club not ready to even contemplate sustaining a realistic bid in its current model all in my option of course.'"
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| Quote ="SRW1996"I don't know the guys well enough to make a statement like that but I do know from an inspection of companies house records there are only two active shareholding directors at the club, by this I mean shareholders who are currently operating as directors of The Ltd company SCL.
I have been party to meeting and conversations that I can't disclose the Infomation I've received but it is my personal opinion that if a new board could be formed ideally with say 5/6 local companies willing to invest a set figure then a representation from LISA & TDC sufficient revenue could be put in place to take the club forward economically and while starting from scratch with a clear vision to build a sustainable fan owned business model which some day may be able to knock on the SL door if it ever be opened to us again.
Sorry about that , i dont know why it didnt print , as i said you must know something we dont ?And i aprreciate you cant repeat it on here , im not a businessman , just a fan that wants the Leigh Centurions to be successful , and will do anything and everything i can to support and raise funds for them to help make them successful .
Looking at it from a purely business point of view and not as fan my opinion is a new club like what Widnes did would be the best way to make this happen though this would mean sacrificing the SL dream. If we're honest with ourselves it is just a dream anyway at this stage with the club not ready to even contemplate sustaining a realistic bid in its current model all in my option of course.'"
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Then we agree to Disagree , as i feel most Leythers wont pay this kind of money , some would , but more wouldnt , because of various reasons , the main one being they couldnt afford it , and Jonny you know how many Armchair fans we have
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The price I said was ST included.
How about if it was £30 PCM for a fans share?
If the fans were told that £x would be raised if we had x many members. Explain in detail the goals and purposes of the system, how it would secure the long term future of the club.
I trust the leythers to really get behind their club, I have no doubt it would work. If Lewes FC can make it work we could.
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| Quote ="mr. chairman"Nice to see that the Buisness people like yourself are interested in Leigh and I hope it's not just the rugby club . Leigh is very close to my heart and that means anything in Leigh , its been sad watching and listening to what's happening to our town not just the rugby club .
As much as I would like to be involved in anything that includes Leigh as a town I'm afraid my time these days are filled by my Buisness and my family , I will be involved in a project in the summer to get the westleigh area involved at junior level in rugby league . That as been a long term goal of mine for many years .
I hope that you are involved , as you seem genuine person from your post . Leigh centurions need honest hard working people and someone to unite the club and fans as well as involving the whole town . I will support anything that goes down that path . All the very best and you have my support .'"
Keith we dont know each other but I know of you and know you have the respect of many in Leigh.
Like yourself I head up our business which is very time consuming and I also have family commitments so I appreciate your comments and understand fully what you mean.
I feel that the there are ways to move forward outside the mould of what has historically been the template of the past and with the global economy being as poor as it is new ways of going forward need to at least be given serious consideration and explored.
I have stated to Trevor that I am interested in being part of a new set up but it would be on the basis that a clean sweep be made of old shareholders unless any want to step up to the plate with new investment or at leasts a show of solidarity and commitment. I did explore the current setup but decided against getting involved as there are are too many old shareholders in the background and also to much financial uncertainty for me to associate myself or my business with at present.
I would be interested in talking to like minded people with similar opinions though and also not just talk but who also have the means to back up such a movement.
I believe Trevor could and would be willing to support a movement which may benefit the clubs long term future and the town as a whole. I also am told there are other people who share similar if not the same vision.
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| Quote ="mr. chairman"I recently spoke with steve Blakley and he as the same values . Why is it that they won't come on board , it must be because of the existing directors . Surely they must step down and let new blood in , we are treading water if they don't'"
In fairness I don't think it's quite as straight forward as them just resigning as the banks need guarantees to secure the over draught facility on the business.
I have a view on things and would be interested in talking to Steve again like yourself I don't know him but if he shares similar thought processes may be some value collectively with others we could maybe add???
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"The price I said was ST included.
How about if it was £30 PCM for a fans share?
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I trust the leythers to really get behind their club, I have no doubt it would work. If Lewes FC can make it work we could.'"
Jonny its not me you have to convince , its the Fencesitters , im a regular at games and will do anything i can to help .
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| Probably not the place to discuss the logistics of things here but I'd be willing to have a non prejudice conversation with Steve via email or telephone or even meet for a chat.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Jonny its not me you have to convince , its the Fencesitters , im a regular at games and will do anything i can to help .'"
Is it possible to do some kind of poll on here to see what kind of support such a movement would receive???
I know it's only a minority of supporters who post on here but from reading these pages last few months its evident LISA people read these pages also so my question is to LISA and the TDC would you support this and do you share a similar vision??
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| Quote ="SRW1996"Is it possible to do some kind of poll on here to see what kind of support such a movement would receive???
I know it's only a minority of supporters who post on here but from reading these pages last few months its evident LISA people read these pages also so my question is to LISA and the TDC would you support this and do you share a similar vision??'"
Now your talking jonny's language. Good idea by the way.
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| Quote ="SRW1996"Is it possible to do some kind of poll on here to see what kind of support such a movement would receive???
I know it's only a minority of supporters who post on here but from reading these pages last few months its evident LISA people read these pages also so my question is to LISA and the TDC would you support this and do you share a similar vision??'"
Count me in
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