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| Quote ="Dico"No, you just spout the same old tripe because once upon a time you were an alright club in a small village but the reality is you need money now, and crowds etc and coming from where you do.. you're just not going to get that so youre all upset. If you were of any real significance then where is your next backer? Surely in all those fans out there you've got there must be some more wealthy fellas? no? exactly? Stop expecting charity from the RFL because you cant sustain a club in the area to the level of which you desire.
Dont give me the tosh about relegation ruining crowds because its rubbish, an excuse, totted out by those feeling the hard biting recession, especially the working class. The reason crowds have dropped accross the division is because SL is 14 clubs now and where you had HKR, Cas, Salford, Widnes floating around previously.. these clubs have made the step up.
Nothing more, nothing less, I fail to see why you all throw your toys out of the pram and blame the lack of relegation'"
Its all very well coming out with that statement because" your alright Jack " I know if you where down here with us you would not be spouting all that rubbish ! Did you tell Crusaders or London to stop expecting charity ?because you can't deny they were given the utmost charity from the RFL .Its quite obvious you are a SL fan and nothing more ,to hell with the rest of us just glad other fans don't have the same view as there would be no clubs below SL if that was the case but i'm sure you would rather like that .Now be gone and don't bother posting on here unless its constructive
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| Quote ="WYSIWYG"Just boycott everything to do with SL and SKY.'"
Just cancelled my SKY subscription. Realised that I watched perhaps 6 SL games all season and zero footie so it doesn;t really stack up.
I will use the cancelled subs to buy into this membership scheme I saw mention of. Is there any more info on that available by the way?
It is sad to see that we have become, literally, a charity case but this is a real opportunity for the fanbase to create something sustainable on 'the other side'.
It's even sadder to see some of the younger RL fraternity lording it over us. The OP clearly stated that he felt that with a successful side WITH SOMETHING TO PLAY FOR the LSV could be filled UNLIKE the stadia of Salford, London and Huddersfield. I agree with him. People like this are clearly incapable of thinking how, with the current direction, things will shape out in the future for the sport as a whole.
As to a backer, would you invest in something when success or failure of that investment depended entirely on the whims of two men. One with a terrible eating disorder and the other a candidate RFU mole? Both pretty witless.
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| Quote ="Paul HHZ"I think my irony-meter just exploded.'"
And by the same token i think you should have spent more time looking at a dictionary.
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| Quote ="itsatry!"Its all very well coming out with that statement because" your alright Jack " I know if you where down here with us you would not be spouting all that rubbish ! Did you tell Crusaders or London to stop expecting charity ?because you can't deny they were given the utmost charity from the RFL .Its quite obvious you are a SL fan and nothing more ,to hell with the rest of us just glad other fans don't have the same view as there would be no clubs below SL if that was the case but i'm sure you would rather like that .Now be gone and don't bother posting on here unless its constructive
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By constructive you mean 'towing the party line'...
If I had a spare million I would chuck it your way, the same way I would any RL club but the attitude of many of your fans irritates me and has done for some time. For some unknown reason, possibly as over the last ten years you've probably been the most consistent Chp club, you think it some divine right to expect handouts when the sport has moved on. We no longer are a sport for working class miners and small villages, its moved on, whether you, I or Bob Geldof likes it.
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| No use arguing with a bigoted person (especially one who thinks a town of over 44K is a village )just ignore the troll. I would suggest if he is irritated by this web site he desists from coming on here. And it is TOEING THE PARTY LINE not TOWING.
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| Alright grandad
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| As thought that would make you about 12 (that's age by the way not IQ... then again??)
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| Quote ="Dico"By constructive you mean 'towing the party line'...
If I had a spare million I would chuck it your way, the same way I would any RL club but the attitude of many of your fans irritates me and has done for some time. For some unknown reason, possibly as over the last ten years you've probably been the most consistent Chp club, you think it some divine right to expect handouts when the sport has moved on. We no longer are a sport for working class miners and small villages, =#FF0000its moved on, whether you, I or Bob Geldof likes it.'"
You mean like its now ' profitable ' ?
Oops , no it isn't , it hasn't ' moved on ' at all , it hasn't expanded , it hasn't challenged RU or football , it is exactly the same as it was , just that there are now 9/10 clubs getting 1.2 million a year to attempt to keep up with the 4/5 clubs that are managing to break even without massive sugar daddy investement
So yes we are bolloxed , but dont try to pretend that the clubs in SL are any different , they aren't
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| Quote ="Starbug"You mean like its now ' profitable ' ?
Oops , no it isn't , it hasn't ' moved on ' at all , it hasn't expanded , it hasn't challenged RU or football , it is exactly the same as it was , just that there are now 9/10 clubs getting 1.2 million a year to attempt to keep up with the 4/5 clubs that are managing to break even without massive sugar daddy investement
So yes we are bolloxed , but dont try to pretend that the clubs in SL are any different , they aren't'"
There are 4/5 clubs in sl who are breaking even?
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| Quote ="j.c"There are 4/5 clubs in sl who are breaking even?'"
Without ' massive ' investement jc
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| Theres clubs in SL who are making profit, some are breaking even, some lose money. But barr Wakey and the failed Crusaders its all okay there and has been for a little while
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| Quote ="Dico"By constructive you mean 'towing the party line'...
If I had a spare million I would chuck it your way, the same way I would any RL club but the attitude of many of your fans irritates me and has done for some time. For some unknown reason, possibly as over the last ten years you've probably been the most consistent Chp club, you think it some divine right to expect handouts when the sport has moved on. We no longer are a sport for working class miners and small villages, its moved on, whether you, I or Bob Geldof likes it.'"
No hand outs for us ok then so why not put that practice all across the board and no hand outs to SL clubs ,there is nothing divine about it by the way and like I said if your club was in our league you would be singing from a different hymn sheet end of
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| Quote ="Dico"Theres clubs in SL who are making profit, some are breaking even, some lose money. But barr Wakey and the failed Crusaders its all okay there and has been for a little while'"
So uncle Ken tipping in a million a year is ' OK ' , Mr Hughes at Quinbroncos , over a million a year , Salford ? , Bradford ? , Crusaders as was ? , even your good selves needs input from Mr Moran occasionally , Saints as well
You have no idea
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| HKR somewhere between 1 and 2 million lost in the last 4 years. Good job they have a backer prepared to stump up the above.
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| Quote ="Dico"And by the same token i think you should have spent more time looking at a dictionary.'"
What a strange thing to say.
If you want to be part of the 'grammar-police', you may want to do a bit or research beforehand.
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| Matters not that we are NOT looking for any handouts just an advance on payments that will fall due to us in the coming season by the RFL.
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| Quote ="Starbug"So uncle Ken tipping in a million a year is ' OK '
, Mr Hughes at Quinbroncos , over a million a year , Salford ? , Bradford ? , Crusaders as was ? , even your good selves needs input from Mr Moran occasionally , Saints as well
You have no idea'"
Yes it is okay, as long as they're happy doing it. But theres no point sitting at your little table resenting them for it. If uncle Ken dies and Huddersfield can't be self sustaining they'll soon find themselves back at your level, its the way it goes. But moaning for 3 years about how it isnt fair because no one will do that at Leigh just gets tiresome: even by your standards
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| Quote ="Dico"Alright grandad
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In another post you refer to someone else's bad grammar and slag off the poster, telling them to get back to their Y5 text book.
Here, someone else pulls you up on your infantile command of the English language and since they know more than you then they must be an old codger.
You also generalise, showing genuine prejudice, about the population of a town. Poor. Uneducated. Stupid. Is this really acceptable behaviour? Even for a child?
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| Im a busy person, I run RLFans in the background while at work for a bit of fun and made a little mistake, easily done and I acknowledged that. Its actually a very common mistake to make that one in particular and I should have known better. Is ol Fred denying he's at a mature stage of his life?
However not knowing the difference between a statement and a question is a crime and gramps should get his old cuffs out.
Its not uneducated, I just tell you people the truth you don't like hearing. Leigh is two or three small village districts stuck together by a tiny town centre in Wigan. Its no wonder you can't find a rich backer within that lot. Sad but true.
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| Tell you what, having spent the past 5 minutes being completely wound up by the SL muppets on the Virtual Terrace, I've come to the conclusion that it makes complete sense to let Super League get on with their own cock ups and hopefully the Championship clubs to work together at a much higher level than previously so that we're best placed to carry on regardless when the house of cards collapses (ask why Super League, the Challenge Cup and World Club Challenge are all without sponsors for next season).
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| Since you're so intelligent I assume you know what a rhetorical question is so I won't bother to explain why the original grammar was in fact perfectly correct whereas yours... Well, the least said...
And bad grammar isn't a crime, whereas publicly stated bigotry is verging on it.
I have worked in Warrington all my working life and have to say, I find it all rather similar to where I live, apart from the fact that Warringtonians seem to think it's a lot better than it is. Obviously, none of the districts has any strong identity so your villages find it easier to identify with a central town club than do Leigh which is a small town with a strong sense of heritage.
I agree that the odds of finding someone wealthy for us are longer by dint of a smaller populace but that is not all.
The odds are further lengthened by the fact that circumstances are not attractive to all but the wealthiest backers.
You'd disagree with this last statement? (Question mark - indicates question. This could be rhetorical, but it isn't - so please do answer).
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| What are you twittering on about it was Paul who had a go at your lack of understanding of grammar not I, you really should get that paranoia seen to before it results in something serious.
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Tell you what, having spent the past 5 minutes being completely wound up by the SL muppets on the Virtual Terrace, I've come to the conclusion that it makes complete sense to let Super League get on with their own cock ups and hopefully the Championship clubs to work together at a much higher level than previously so that we're best placed to carry on regardless when the house of cards collapses (ask why Super League, the Challenge Cup and World Club Challenge are all without sponsors for next season).'"
they've not got a clue whats going on have they.
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| Quote ="waterfield's finest"
You also generalise, showing genuine prejudice, about the population of a town. Poor. Uneducated. Stupid. Is this really acceptable behaviour? Even for a child?'"
He's so childish its beyond belief.
Also, anyone who thinks Chris Bridge is world class is away with the fairies!
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