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They should be able to open the bollards through the estate at the opposite side of the ground after the match to let cars out then people on those car parks can be ushered to that exit thus easing the congestion.
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| Quote ="The Kevster!"They should be able to open the bollards through the estate at the opposite side of the ground after the match to let cars out then people on those car parks can be ushered to that exit thus easing the congestion.'"
That would work, but I think it was probably a condition of building the stadium that there would be no access to the estate on match days. I have to say that it would be a minimal disruption for residents lasting a few minutes at worst. |
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1 A car park is NOT a road nor is its access.
2. A condition of the LSV was that there be an EMERGENCY exit other than onto the By-Pass and that if it did exit onto the Etherstone St estate it be for EMERGENCY traffic or PUBLIC transport ONLY.
Was there only me that read the planning consent? I must be that sad.
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We could always declare an emergency at the end of every match. As I said, another exit on the bypass is the only way or put traffic lights on the 'junction' near the exit. The other difference I noted last night was the much larger number of cars on the 'spare' ground immediately to the right of the entrance.
I think this, again, is because they were not directed away from it by the stewards. This caused three-way traffic flow near the exit and created the dangerous situation.
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Whatever is the problem the whole town will need to have a good think of how they are going to get upto 10,000 fans away quickly and safely in June. Personally I always clap the boys off, go to the loo and by the time have got to my car the mad rush has subsided
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Late to arrive, early to go bl**dy hell we've been in this borough far too long were turning into them.
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| I have no issues at all leaving LSV, I go for a post match drink and debate in East and then I have my barge moored under the bridge, happily sail back to Butts Basin  and then stroll home. |
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| Quote ="glow"I have no issues at all leaving LSV, I go for a post match drink and debate in East and then I have my barge moored under the bridge, happily sail back to Butts Basin
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Never thought of that one!
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| Quote ="rugbyballs"Never thought of that one!
Just need a canal to Culcheth.'"
You'll have to use Nelly the Elephant from the park and ride opp the Greyhound.  |
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| Quote ="FredParky"Late to arrive, early to go bl**dy hell we've been in this borough far too long were turning into them.'"
Oh no Fred, please don't say we're turning into, de, de, deeeerrrrrrrrrrr. PIES.   |
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We stayed to clap the lads off as usual and when we got outside the traffic was terrible,like as been said they are there to direct onto carparks so what is the difference?am i missing something here,the head of stewarding should issue a statement explaining why sometimes stewards are not around after games ,accident waiting to happen springs to mind.
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| Quote ="itsatry!"We stayed to clap the lads off as usual and when we got outside the traffic was terrible,like as been said they are there to direct onto carparks so what is the difference?am i missing something here,the head of stewarding should issue a statement explaining why sometimes stewards are not around after games ,accident waiting to happen springs to mind.'"
The stewards were 'around' they were all stood on the gravel between the stadium and the road, facing towards the stadium, Why?   |
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| This is why they need to inform the club on the reason they were stood about and not directing the traffic  |
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As far as I can see the main problem isnt the approach to the roundabout it is the junction from the north car parks onto sale way, it is made worse by traffic from the car park on the other side of sale way add to this the pedestrians trying to cross then it becomes quite dangerous, up until recently the stewards have been doing a good job on alleviating the problem.
Hopefully it can be resolved before too long.
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| Don't think its a case of not being believed Fred, the point is they have done it previously and it appeared to work quite well, now they seem to have stopped probably for the reasons you've said, but they still do it prior to the game. Which makes it even more confusing.
And I can't see any reason for where they do stand after the game, are they worried about people taking a short cut across the gravel? |
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| To be honest it only took me 10 mins to get off the carpark and stopped till the end as my kids like to cheer them off,when the planning was submitted and saw only one exit off the site I feared the worst,so was chuffed to be home 20 mins from game and that included a pitstop at the dirty beer shop to buy one or two celebratery cans |
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| 20 minutes to get off a car park after a match is nothing, I know the crowds are much bigger but at any Premier League Ground it takes about 45 minutes to get off the car park and thats getting to your cars leaving the game before it finishes sometimes.
I have no issue with getting off the LSV, you just need a bit of patience,plus its free and not a £5 to park like a lot of other grounds.Keep on moaning and they will start to charge and that will cure the delay at getting off |
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| Loads of premier clubs make you stay on the Car parks to let the pedestrians walk down the roads etc due to the crowd size. It's not just a matter of people getting home quickly but with no stewards* in place pedestrians are also at risk.
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Thing is though Fred, Sale Way won't be a public highway yet; for this to happen it needs to be adopted (for example under S37 or 38 of the Highways Act).
As it's not finished, the adopting highway authority (Wigan Corpy to me and thee) should not adopt it as public highway because it's not finished. If they did adopt roads in that condition then every housebuilder in the land would be offereing half built highway to the council for adoption and expecting the council tax payer to pick up the bill for finishing it off.
Therefore the responsibility for Sale Way would currently lie with the landowner which is why we have seen LSV people directing traffic in and out of the village. In fairness to them I've always thought they do a decent match day job too.
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Thing is though Fred, Sale Way won't be a public highway yet; for this to happen it needs to be adopted (for example under S37 or 38 of the Highways Act).
As it's not finished, the adopting highway authority (Wigan Corpy to me and thee) should not adopt it as public highway because it's not finished. If they did adopt roads in that condition then every housebuilder in the land would be offereing half built highway to the council for adoption and expecting the council tax payer to pick up the bill for finishing it off.
Therefore the responsibility for Sale Way would currently lie with the landowner which is why we have seen LSV people directing traffic in and out of the village. In fairness to them I've always thought they do a decent match day job too.
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| Quote ="peawapp"I brought up this problem following the last home match and was then called a liar by kevin bloody wilson, I hope he's reading this and would like to offer me an apology, although I wont hold my breath, the stewards up to two matches ago were doing a very good job with traffic control but now seem more interested in bullying little boys.'"
i think you owe a few to people first, once you've put your own house in order i might consider it, i don't remember calling you a liar though. |
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| Quote ="rugbyballs"That would work, but I think it was probably a condition of building the stadium that there would be no access to the estate on match days. I have to say that it would be a minimal disruption for residents lasting a few minutes at worst.'"
Well it only has to be used on the way out and the traffic will be for no longer than half an hour if that. What's the point of the access point unless it can be utilised when there is large crowds?
Trust me I went to Marshall Street college back in the early mid 90's and the estate had much worse things to put up with then including heavy traffic.
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| Quote ="Alexs Dad"Thing is though Fred, Sale Way won't be a public highway yet; for this to happen it needs to be adopted (for example under S37 or 38 of the Highways Act).
As it's not finished, the adopting highway authority (Wigan Corpy to me and thee) should not adopt it as public highway because it's not finished. If they did adopt roads in that condition then every housebuilder in the land would be offereing half built highway to the council for adoption and expecting the council tax payer to pick up the bill for finishing it off.
Therefore the responsibility for Sale Way would currently lie with the landowner which is why we have seen LSV people directing traffic in and out of the village. In fairness to them I've always thought they do a decent match day job too.'"
I still bet they wouldn't be covered by any insurance though (the highways act doesnt cover all offences on 'public roads' though as The Road Traffic Act says). |
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If i have raised the issue with the Safety officer, he has read the commets, and will act on them.
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| kevin bloody wilson there are different ways of calling people liars following my post on there being no stewards on traffic control you posted that there were stewards on duty that day, following that there were two posts confirming
what I had said followed by silence from you .so as far as i am concerned you as good as called me a liar therefore you are in my opinion ignorant  |
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