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| Quote ="CHEADLE LEYTHER"Well I think we now realise our top 4 hopes are on a knife edge. As I take it none of us is privy to a super computer in order to enter all the remaining fixtures with all the different variables attached, I will try to make sense of all the available information we have at hand,making full use of the A level maths attained at Leigh Grammar. FIrstly, I think we are all agreed we need to win our last 4 matches. Next there are 2 important top 6 matches this weekend - Fax v Fev and Toulouse v London. Looking at recent history, I'm leaning towards Fev. and Toulouse being the winners. Fev won both matches at the Shay last season 32-10 and 26-20, while London have already lost to Toulouse twice this season 16-36 and 28-40. This would mean one more loss for needed for both for us to grab 4th . Halifax have to play London away and Toulouse at home, so may be vulnerable there,while London have Fax at home and Fev.away and could also be vulnerable. That is the hopeful scenario. The problem scenario is Fax beating Fev. who are most unlikely to lose at home to London. This could lead us to a final weekend of hoping Toronto beating Fev. on the Saturday and then trying to match up a points difference of anywhere between 30 and 60 points against Sheffiield the following day- at least we will know what difference will be, but can w depend on a fully focussed Toronto on the last day of the season? Other variable to be taken into account include the weather (other top 6 sides have been running riot against the bottom 4 teams in the continuing hot weather-this hot spell can't last forever-it will just be our luck to be wet and windy for the last 3 weeks in July!!) FInally a minor point the kick off against Rochdale may be brought forward if England are in the Workd cup final. Hope that's helped to solve the conundrum.'"
Totally agree CL, but my simpler view ,is if the winds from the East,the lean to the West.
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| Quote ="CHEADLE LEYTHER"FInally a minor point the kick off against Rochdale may be brought forward if England are in the Workd cup final. Hope that's helped to solve the conundrum.'"
I can at least provide assurance on the last point, England will not reach the World Cup Final. As for the rest of it, I'm confident but can't guarantee we'll be in the middle eights.
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| England have more chance of getting to the World Cup Final than Leigh do of reaching the middle 8’s.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"England have more chance of getting to the World Cup Final than Leigh do of reaching the middle 8’s.'"
Have you been banned from the VT or summat??
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| Quote ="ColD"Have you been banned from the VT or summat??'"
No Col,he's tried to get some Leythers banned on the VT, and now he's rubbing his nose in on here.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"England have more chance of getting to the World Cup Final than Leigh do of reaching the middle 8’s.'"
Do -one.com
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| Quote ="Cokey"No Col,he's tried to get some Leythers banned on the VT, and now he's rubbing his nose in on here.'"
What have you been up to
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| Finished now.
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| I just don’t believe Leigh will gain promotion or a top 4 spot that is all.
The Championship has been a great competition from the very start and looks like it will stay that way to the very end.
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| That’s right, you’re 2 points behind 5th place and 3 points behind 4th place.
You’re points difference is also significantly worse than 4 of the 5 teams above you.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"That’s right, you’re 2 points behind 5th place and 3 points behind 4th place.
You’re points difference is also significantly worse than 4 of the 5 teams above you.'"
So.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"That’s right, you’re 2 points behind 5th place and 3 points behind 4th place.
You’re points difference is also significantly worse than 4 of the 5 teams above you.'"
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Welcome to the stage, Captain Obvious!
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| He is as bad as his other login trolls
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| Thanks for opening the discussion Cheadle Leyther.
As another ex-Grammar Bug I too have been exercising my grey matter over the endless permutations (or should that be combinations - I can never remember which!) which may arise over the last 4 weeks of the regular season.
As a starting point - and that is all it is not a definitive set of final positions - I have also had a look at the top 6 and their remaining fixtures.
For the purpose of this exercise I have assumed that the Centurions will win their remaining games. That is not to disrespect the opposition but if we don't achieve wins in all those four matches, there is little point in prolonging the discussion on here as we won't make the top 4 - simple as that.
With that proviso in mind I have also made the following assumptions in order to see what the final picture would be based on those premises:-
1. Where top 6 teams play each other, the HOME team will take the points.
2. In all other fixtures - as form teams - the top 6 team is awarded the win BUT upsets can and will happen!
3. No attempt has been made to judge the winning margin but clearly points difference will come into play in deciding the top 4.
Based on the above here is a possible scenario:-
Round Final
19 20 21 22 23 Position
1 Toronto 35 37 39 41 43 1
2 Toulouse 28 30 32 32 34 2
3 Featherstone 28 28 30 32 32 4=
4 Halifax 27 29 29 31 33 3
5 London 26 26 28 28 30 6
6 Leigh 24 26 28 30 32 4=
SHOULD the above come to pass, it would mean that we would need to improve our points difference by over 100 points to sneak past Fev and grab that final Qualifiers spot.
All assumptions of course but I offer this as a starting point for discussion.
Mind you all could be blown out of the water this coming weekend! ant
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| Quote ="bentleyman"Not forgetting Fax have beaten Fev on every neutral ground since they played each other also at Fev ground 9-8 to Fev Charlie get to the Shay never Mount Unpleasant
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Where is the match on Sunday again? Oh yes the Shay!!!
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| If you toss a coin 10 times and get tails 9 times, what are the odds of getting tails on the last toss?
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| Quote ="reffy"Evens'"
Exactly. All previous results are meanigless and only the next one matters in isolation. Different squads, different weather, different ref, previous results have no bearing whatsoever on this one although they make for nice little fun facts for the stattos.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Exactly. All previous results are meanigless and only the next one matters in isolation. Different squads, different weather, different ref, previous results have no bearing whatsoever on this one although they make for nice little fun facts for the stattos.'"
Because obviously there is no mental aspect to the game...
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| Quote ="bentleyman"Not forgetting Fax have beaten Fev on every neutral ground since they played each other also at Fev ground 9-8 to Fev Charlie get to the Shay never Mount Unpleasant
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Mick, I'm gutted I can't be at the Shay on Sunday, it should be corker, very close,and a very important game, good luck to both teams, I tip Fev win , just.
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