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| Does the East Stand have a sound shield in it to stop the chants from the North Stand?
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| So some on here respond with, other clubs do it so we will to, that makes it OK then does it? Whenever has two wrongs made something OK and acceptable.
People have also posed the question what can Derek do about it, well he could appeal to the songbirds to tame it down somewhat, then if they have any respect for him for what he has done for the club they might just take heed, then again.............
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| They will say it costs money to open East Stand, but I have been on opposition websites and quite a lot of opposition fans are not happy with being stuck behind the posts. I think the extra cost of opening East would be offset by extra away fans attending. I also would think some Leigh fans might fancy a change of scenery as well.
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| Don't think its just a case of lets open the East.There will be stadia regulations in place as in the East can only be applied for if either North or South are full/reaching max capacity.
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| Quote ="Markypants"Warrington also chanted at Gaz Hock, but telling the north stand to stop swearing isn't going to stop the issue . Personally I think the North Stand has been vocal and has helped the players raise their game in recent weeks. Some of it is unnecessary but it's not going to go away . What happened to the Icelandic Chant ?'"
Yea what has happened to the Icelantic Chant, done right its very intimidating and I think we got it just about right against Hudds in the middle 8's last year.
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| Being a Westander, I can honestly say it doesn't bother me,I never swear in life so wouldn't do it at Sports games,but we are not talking about a few fans here, we have around 500- 1000 in the North Stand singing the Flute Song,or the Savile song so they are popular,now I acknowledge Derek has done some great things at the LSV since taking over,but he can't feed the North Stand with 5 loaves and 2 small fish, neither can he stop the North Stand singing these songs, we have tannoy announcements every game letting us know that foul and abusive language will not be tolerated,but what is the answer?Eject all the guilty fans it would look empty after, it simply can't be done,swearing isn't nice for kids to hear,as for Women they sometimes swear worse than men,there is NO solution,let's concentrate on watching good Rugby, and stop expecting even Derek to perform miracles.
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| The OP clearly has a point - I personally find it embarrassing at times, however, as has been said, it's the nature of sport and you hear similar at plenty of grounds.
With regards to children, I take my 11 year old grandson and we sit pretty near to the north stand so he takes it all in, and he never says a word about it - in this day and age sadly they hear similar in day to day life
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| Anyone travelling by public transport knows that no word is any longer taboo to the younger generations, barring possibly the N word. Bongser wonders if this is because the use of the latter carries the threat of prosecution. Bongser was caned when at school for accidentally using the word "dick" within a teacher's hearing. The European Convention on Human Rights put a stop to that sort of deterrent and thus ensured that it is every human's right to impinge on everyone else's should they so choose. Brexit won't change that, the damage is done. But if you're looking for somewhere to lay the blame...
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| From personal experience, I know that the club is very sensitive to any damage to its image - especially with the RFL. I honestly believe that the song in question does damage said image. How you prevent it, I've no idea!
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| The Watcher has also been attending Leigh games for over 50 years and he loves the industrial language used in the songs of the North Stand. When The Watcher was taken by his father to the rugby, it was part of the thrill of the occasion to hear loud booming voices scolding the opposition or referee using swear words. However The young Watcher knew only to well that if he ever repeated any of the very fruity words he had heard on the terraces he would have got a belt. Language is ever developing, don't be upset by swear words, grow a pair of balls & enjoy it, rugby is a tough sport played by tough hard men & watched in general by working class folk looking to release a bit of energy after a week at work. For The Watcher carry on swearing.
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| I've been to football games and heard worse , and thought it was funny , until watching MOTD with my parents and hearing it clearly on the TV
I prefer RL now for several reasons , one of those was the difference in support , ie being able to mix with opposition fans before and after
Yes there has always been individual swearing , and while I try to not do it myself , it happens within the emotion of the game
But within the ' songs/chants ' sung that include swear words there isn't a single one that is actually supportive/positive to the club or the team , every single one is abusive/aggressive aimed at the supporters of the team we are playing or Wigan
Anybody singing or supporting the singing of those songs/chants is an idiot , it isn't big and it isn't funny
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Being a Westander, I can honestly say it doesn't bother me,I never swear in life so wouldn't do it at Sports games,but we are not talking about a few fans here, we have around 500- 1000 in the North Stand singing the Flute Song,or the Savile song so they are popular,now I acknowledge Derek has done some great things at the LSV since taking over,but he can't feed the North Stand with 5 loaves and 2 small fish, neither can he stop the North Stand singing these songs, we have tannoy announcements every game letting us know that foul and abusive language will not be tolerated,but what is the answer?Eject all the guilty fans
it would look empty after, it simply can't be done,swearing isn't nice for kids to hear,as for Women they sometimes swear worse than men,there is NO solution,let's concentrate on watching good Rugby, and stop expecting even Derek to perform miracles.'"
well said Charlie, whilst most people agree with some of the sentiments posted, I fail to see What Derek can do about it. He may be our leader but after all he isn't God. People will do exactly what they want disregarding the opinion of others, maybe one day they will grow a brain cell and say 'you know what I am getting a bit tired of all the stupid chants, lets do something different and be a bit more respectful'.
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| Its about the 'woke up this morning' taking over as the song of choice, it was much louder on Thursday and as it takes off will replace one of the less savoury ones imo, especially if it becomes part of the players ritual. Used to love the Leigh Wino's one.
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| Can someone tell me the lyrics to the song? All I can decipher when it is sung is "woke up this morning feeling fine Naha nanh nah nah nah nah"
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| It's a take on the UTD version
Woke up this morning feeling fine , got Leigh Rugby on my mind , jukesys got the lads playing how the Leythers should oh yeh , something tells me I'm into something good
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| Cheers Steve, I can join in now!
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| Quote ="jacquiep"well said Charlie, whilst most people agree with some of the sentiments posted, I fail to see What Derek can do about it. He may be our leader but after all he isn't God. People will do exactly what they want disregarding the opinion of others, maybe one day they will grow a brain cell and say 'you know what I am getting a bit tired of all the stupid chants, =#40BF00lets do something different and be a bit more respectful'.'"
Good solution..
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"I've been to football games and heard worse , and thought it was funny , until watching MOTD with my parents and hearing it clearly on the TV
I prefer RL now for several reasons , one of those was the difference in support , ie being able to mix with opposition fans before and after
Yes there has always been individual swearing , and while I try to not do it myself , it happens within the emotion of the game
But within the ' songs/chants ' sung that include swear words there isn't a single one that is actually supportive/positive to the club or the team , every single one is abusive/aggressive aimed at the supporters of the team we are playing or Wigan
Anybody singing or supporting the singing of those songs/chants is an idiot , it isn't big and it isn't funny'"
Just as bad on away coaches when I take my daughter and "the enlightened few" are on the same coach giving it the Tourettes...
Works any you rub it I'm afraid
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| Quote ="RoyBoy29"Just as bad on away coaches when I take my daughter and "the enlightened few" are on the same coach giving it the Tourettes...
Works any you rub it I'm afraid'"
Unfortunately Roy , never makes it right
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"Last night was bad, worst I've heard at LSV. The continuous chant of "You're F***ing sh**" was pathetic.....What's wrong with "can we play you every week" ??!!'"
Or "are you Widnes in disguise" or some such ....
We have a football following now, many of our fans are also Man United fans & it shows in the songs that carry over.
Don't get me wrong, I am a MUFC fan & born & raised in Mcr so I know the songs, what happens is this, those lads singing them are mid teens to late 20's, they eventually grow up & leave it behind, I was the same at that age, not defending it, just pointing out facts as I see them.
The North Stand is where 'the lad's' go, to drink & sing, some are lads, some are lads dad's & some have kids. If you really want to avoid it/protect your kids from it, then go in the West Stand ....
No, it shouldn't be that way, but who will stop it ?
On Thursday night I witnessed a Scouse steward shouting & swearing at other stewards in the N.S, "treat 'em like £UCK!N' Kids" & so on he was shouting about Leigh fans, so if the stewards have no self control, what hope for the rest ?
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| Well I stand with my kids in the North Stand and both are graduates and I/they dont have a problem.As above change the songs..God forbid fighting in the North Stand amongst ourselves we'd be hung drawn and quartered.
We are in SL and we have a lot eyes upon us being the new kids on the block..LSV is a fortress,lets not make it a laughing stock..You don't always have to follow the leader,they soon shut up,if you dont.
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| Quote ="atomic"Well I stand with my kids in the North Stand and both are graduates and I/they dont have a problem.As above change the songs..=#FF0000God forbid fighting in the North Stand amongst ourselves we'd be hung drawn and quartered.
We are in SL and we have a lot eyes upon us being the new kids on the block..LSV is a fortress,lets not make it a laughing stock..You don't always have to follow the leader,they soon shut up,if you dont.'"
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Middle 8's last year
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Blackpool Summer Bash
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"
But within the ' songs/chants ' sung that include swear words there isn't a single one that is actually supportive/positive to the club or the team , every single one is abusive/aggressive aimed at the supporters of the team we are playing or Wigan
Anybody singing or supporting the singing of those songs/chants is an idiot , it isn't big and it isn't funny'"
.....He use to be e but now he's alright
I remember some idiot singing that in full voice in the Albert and lion not to long ago
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| I took up Mr Beaumont and Mr Koukash's very generous offer yesterday and attended the Salford/Cas game, there was a good crowd on with both popular ends well attended especially the Cas end which was packed I believe they took 2K along.
Some posters on this thread are of the opinion that other teams chant obscene songs, well I must say it was not evident yesterday from both sets of supporters.
What is quite evident on this thread is the variation in self and life standards that people class themselves, unfortunately when other supporters from other clubs comment on the Leigh chants it is the all Leigh Fans who are tarnished with the same brush, not just those who believe it is right and proper to do so.
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