I think the only solution is to end it. Call me a Lobbite if you want but this is a merger via the back door. Once you lose your independence the heart of the club has gone. Look how it has divided the fans already. We all love the club and want the best but merging with Wigan (because that's what it is) isn't the answer. I would rather watch Leigh East/Miners now than set foot in the WSV again because personally I can't accept this.

When I win the Euromillions, I'm going to suggest a partnership with Wigan. I'm going to steal their young fan base, I'm going to filter through their young talent and take the best but they won't know I'm doing it until it is too late. They will think I'm doing it to help their club. You can tell Kris Radlinski because people think if he says it then it must be true, but don't tell anyone else because it's a secret. DUH!!!! :O)

Well Said



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Absolutely. This is huge, for so many reasons. Personally I`ll still be renewing my LISA membership, going along to the games, have a couple of pints and the odd pie, watch a game of rugby, cheer the lads on, maybe one day even I'll win the half time draw. Nothing changes for me. For others, what ever reason it will.

What changes is the number of fans who will be doing the same.

Playing opportunities will be offered for up to 5 players via a Dual Registration or Loan System Format. The preferred option would be to loan the players on a long term basis and there is an understanding between the two clubs that in reality only a maximum of 4 players will play each week.
2. All players that will be considered for this approach will be chosen by both clubs involved and each individual case will be decided by mutual consent.


So let me get this right,it seems they have agreed on 4 players each week and wigan will chose if we can play them that week or not,how is that independant for Leigh


So basically the wigan reserve coach will decide who we can and cannot play????

Again i agree with everything here , except the pie part





they are to well done for my liking , i prefer a Hot Dog , or something at the Whistling Wren , or Legends Bar first .

I think you have it wrong there Jeff , last week on Boots n All , John Kear was asked the same question about Duals they have with Huddersfield , and he said it didnt matter how many they have , or how many Hudds send , what matters is "If i Pick Them ", its up to JK , on that decision , and Paul Rowley will be no different , it will be up to him , not anyone from Wigan .

It says dc or loan.If they come on loan is that minimum month,witout recall ?.
I might except couple on loan for rest of season, two others to come on dc by mutual consent e.g we may need forwards one week,backs another.

What are the hints at the finance about? If we are taking loans at expense of players we already have ie letting them go to save money then I do not think that is acceptable and we are giving something away

PR is a smashing lad and I know he won't be dictated to by Wigan. On the other hand, what about when PR leaves one day. What if he is replaced by a coach from Wigan's set up? We will just be the full reserve side for Wigan.

When mergers were first announced everyone was up in arms about it. So they go away and rethink the idea and they bring it in over a few seasons when the Champ clubs are struggling financially. They know that their fan base will have dwindled and that they will be only to happy to merge.

It is so simple and instead of the uproar that mergers caused a few years ago, some fans are welcoming the merger with open arms. It is very easy to manipulate people when they are in fear of not having enough money.

A lot of people posting opinions on here don't actualy go to the matches or spend 1 penny keeping in touch with the club , they sit at home waiting for Fred to post the highlights and foraging about for any excuse not to go ...... just like they've always done

I can see what you are saying , and your concerns , but again its the old question "What IF ",nobody can answer that , Paul is contracted for a while yet , im prepared to see how this pans out for the rest of the Season , then make my decision as what i feel is right for me .

You are right there Wallace , myself , ive not missed a game this season , home or away , and do everything i can to raise funds for the club , but i dont think it makes me more concerned about what is happening , i do wish more fans would attend games , but this current problem , wont help .

Haha!! Think the pie comment was a Freudian slip

Let's have a vote
Who wants what starbug proposed
Who wants the official version where we get any five from 20 of their first team squad every week and it could be difference ones every week what good does that do us btw

Sorry Linda but where does it officially say we will be having 5 dcs every week. What ste is proposing is not much different to the way it has been in the last two years. That's ok by me. I'm annoyed but i am seeing amongst the rants people saying the statement says this or means that when it just doesn't.



What made you change your tune derick ?
I know we have told them how we want it to work but how long will it be before that gets abused?
I've been in a service area launch night at the jjb a few year back . Wane took the mick out of leigh all night . iwe even paid over the odds for a signed Leigh shirt so as to save the club face. He doesn't like Leigh one bit

Why is this so difficult to understand?

From the press release:



Combined with



It doesn't matter a jot if a Wigan player is U23, if they are a regular member of Wigan's first team squad then they will not be coming to Leigh on DC or loan terms. Guaranteed.

Sending a Wigan first team player to Leigh is not going to be in our interests, and very unlikely to be Wigan's interests - unless they're returning from injury, in which case why would we want them anyway?

People talk about us losing our independence, yet it's perfectly clear we have a full and equal say on every decision that is made. Would anyone like to dispute that?

Having said that, we're now moving very quickly in to self-fulfilling prophecy territory, where those who are saying we're going to become a feeder club are now playing an active part in ensuring that we do, by either stopping attending and / or by putting around negative and factually incorrect arguments based on fallacy and supposition.

Because attendances are falling, at an accelerating rate, our club will soon be finished and quite frankly this town no longer deserves them.

Well said Michael Ward

I agree well said MW

People talk about us losing our independence, yet it's perfectly clear we have a full and equal say on every decision that is made. Would anyone like to dispute that?
how can we be independant if we have a say on a decision about our team? What if Leigh disagree who has the last word? There are various partnerships with names one is parasitic another is simbyosis which one is Leigh in?

I disagree with this partnership but I'm gonna stick around & see where it leads to before deserting OUR club well said MW.

We are independent, because Wigan can make whoever they like available for DC (within the terms set out by the agreement) but Leigh do not have to accept any of them.

Anything that happens will only happen if BOTH Leigh & Wigan are happy with it. We are independent because Wigan cannot make decisions for us.

Let's wait and see what happens.
Still not happy about it.


Why did we not have a fans forum prior to this release because so far the club has been open with us all.

I can't help but feel that this issue is being used by a few vocal 'fans' as their excuse to walk away from the club, something they'd do eventually anyhow.

Nik, explain how 2 months ago it was announced " No partnership " , then ' Partnership signed ' ?

The big 4 provided themselves with a platform to operate within the wider RFL rules on partnerships, yet in a fairer manner than the full scope of the rules are providing.

Why would that agreement have been put in place if not to allow said clubs to engage in a fairer and more limited partnership system?

There is a possibility that the only reason that Fev and Halifax haven't entered in to similar partnerships is that they can't find a SL club willing to agree to the terms. Wigan have and that should be to their credit. Of course, this is speculation and should be taken as such.

The situation has changed, and I would expect any right minded BoD to reconsider their position when situations change.

The biggest problem here has been communication. If we had stated early that we wished to push for and participate in a fairer partnership system, then we would have saved a lot of anguish later.