Yes they are frank

TBH it's going to be very hard to attract more than 3000 fans in this league unless we spend a shed load of money advertising and reducing ticket prices (but it's something we can't afford to do)

No , that isn't what you do , but either way if you accept we will never draw any more fans then we are a Championship/1 club and will remain so forever

ok, how would you increase the gates? a decent priced family ticket? or would you use the 'skull dragging' technique?

have never set foot inside the LSV ?

2006 NRC Cup Final when we absolutely battered the biggest club in the world - unexpected was not the word because the fans didn't back us that day in numbers. It was live on telly of course and looked great on TV. the week after same old crowd turned up against our bitter rivals Haven (a crowd puller in itself you would think). We played worse game ever that day but the punters wasn't to know that had they turned up.
Perfect example of our fickle fan base at the moment. Bread and butter crowds (weekly rounds of league games) are what is important not one off games that may not happen to be used as examples. Our weekly averages are not good enough now, and they was not good enough before "the draw bridge was lifted" either.
The fact we are expected to beat Dewsbury by the stayaways sums it up when trying to convince them to go and support us to get to the final. We don't have a given right to beat Dewsbury, just like we have found out so many times in recent past against similar opposition.

Yeah i do own a car and i drove one similar, before burning a big hole in my pocket! But how would you persuade or sell a ticket to somebody at random walking through the town centre?

and probably about 55 thousand of them if not more, it annoyed me 1 day last week when we were in a taxi (to break the ice i talk about rugby) taxi driver said, were do they play..........i wanted to slap him round the face

You have just answered the question

how would you personally persuade the other 55 thousand then? would you target the younger generation

The kids are the future.
All ages too from High School down, then the students at the college.

We live in a much more dynamic world now. When I was a kid there was nothing else to do on a Saturday afternoon in Winter than go and watch Leigh. No TV to speak of and no computer games. We couldn't go anywhere we couldn't walk to so any other sporting event Man U or Bolton W etc. was out of the question. Now kids get driven everywhere, so for kids to go to Saints or Wigan is no more difficult than it is for them to get to the LSV. The only possible weapon we have is proce. If we can entice kids in with their parents cheap, it might just swing it. It's too late now for many of tyhe old fans to come back. To many have lost interest completely and are disillusioned by RL in general. Although they still watch SL in the pub.

So who goes into the schools? is it duffy and the community department?

we should send the like of RHP into school to do some of the talks and coaching (high schools more) Parents allow them to go with their mates and all that!

What about if the school can sell more than 50 season tickets, they get a free signed leyth shirt from this year or a coaching day for their P.E department

You invite the whole school

kids
parents
siblings
grandparents
teachers
teachers partners

All Free

daft statement....hull kr didnt get massive crowds in the championship

They have always had a huge dormant fan base that was waiting for them to match Hull FC , when have we ever been close to matching W1g4ns attendances ?

What did they draw early doors in 2007 , compared to us in 2005 ?

Not saying Im right , it is only my opinion , but to take 2,500 up to SL as a starting point would be disasterous , IMO of course

Trying to get to kids through school is difficult. Kids are not the family decision makers and are notoriously bad at taking forms etc home from school. Try organising a school trip that involves kids taking home a form to get signed and bring back £3 deposit. Half get left at school, a quarter get left in their school bags and most of the rest get forgotten about or ignored by parents. Aiming at parents direct would be better if possible. Offer a good deal and plaster all over the town. Maybe offer exetreme concessions to unwaged and advertise this in the job centre, library etc. Also why not get some translated into Eastern European languages and try to attract the immigrants we have in Leigh. They may be interested and flattered if they see something in their own language..

The whole school , around 1,200 people at a time all in one stand sat together

.....and Tommy Sale can feed them with 7 loaves and fish !!!

Seriously that isn't a bad idea. Obviously wouldn't get 1200 but might get a good few. Have 2 schools in at the same time and have a competition to see how can get most in. School teams play as the curtain raiser.

as an afterthought for Primary schools, the most popular time for any school trip is the gift shop were the kids can buy rubbish. Give pencils and other bits out as prizes.

a family ticket for £ 15

Then you start again with another 4 games , and so on and so on ,

Yes you do , thats one of the major points , its no good trying to get an extra 50 people at a time , you need at least a 1,000 in to make the place ' rocking ' , as you say you challenge the schools to see who can get the most , you put the teachers and their partners in the West stand with a free buffet on for them in one of the boxes

You challenge the kids to see who can cheer the loudest

You also invite all your opponents fans by providing free coach travel for them to improve the atmosphere in the LSV

Get over 4,000 in for every game and the whole place will feel different and then people will want to return , if not for every game , at least for some , but it isn't just something you do for one game here and there , it needs a concerted effort over many years

you give a game all free were do we make money to pay players wages?

the kids/teachers is a great idea, someone mentioned a curtain raiser another fantasic idea if the LSV would let you do it!
get the cheerleaders back. Who now makes these decisions?

81/82 season......
Leyth 5939
Pies 5497

Happy days only both Hull clubs beat us that season.

The curtain raiser has to be done as a serious junior game not just a glorified training session for tick and pass. I've seen lots of kids curtain raisers over the years and not just at Leigh. They're always treated as something to get out of way as quick as possible before the "real" game starts. These players are the future of our club and we should treat them as special as soon as possible. I played on Hilton Park when I was a kid, and 40 odd years later I can remember every minute. It's a real big deal for kids to play on a professional ground and we should treat them properly. The kids, their parents and their grandparents will be looking forward to the big day for ages. Lets make sure it's a great day for them to remember, rather than giving them the impression this is just filler..

I think that's more of an issue when it's a half-time game. The key is to take sure that the parents etc [ido[/i stick around for the 'main event' though rather than just bugger off after their own kids games.