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| The last thing we want/can do is sack Kelly as IF he has signed a 2 year contract it would cost us too much to pay him off. The simple answer is bring in some loan players, Something has to be done and that seems to be the quickest/cheapest option, I still have a bit of faith in Neil Kelly
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Wow the " weve got a young team so its ok" didnt last long did it? You got beat by a team that has spent a lot of money and on paper is better than the Leigh team. Really what do you expect.
What happened to everyones faith in Neil Kelly?'"
not MANY of us Leigh fan's think that, I CAN ASSURE YOU.
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| What has NK ever done to warrant this "I have faith" statement?
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| Everyone had faith in Benson with the money he spent, Thats why people had /have faith in Kelly as he was/is a good coach. We are the man City of RL sack the coach every 6 mathches
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Wow the " weve got a young team so its ok" didnt last long did it? You got beat by a team that has spent a lot of money and on paper is better than the Leigh team. Really what do you expect.
What happened to everyones faith in Neil Kelly?'"
Problem GFB, is that all the teams in the Championship seem to have spent more than us, and have better teams, on paper - yes, even bottom of the table Batley, who comprehensively embarrassed us at LSV. We have made arguably, two 'quality' signings. Stuart Donlan is a class full back, and plays anywhere but there. We already had a quality full back, so Donlan is being used to plug inadequacies everywhere else, thus completely nullifying his value. (Armitstead is the other good signing, who is just playing himself back, after injury)
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| All our money went on donlan....he cost us a fortune wen we cut hav ad 2/2 gr8 players for the money we must av paid for him! Think Kelly mite be on his last legs.....he seems 2 hav a one pace game method.....we just cant seem to change the pace like the utha teams. I think ther sum gud quality players....and im sure under another coach cud certainly up their game!!! just can we afford to pay NK off!!
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| Quote ="leythers.com"All our money went on donlan....he cost us a fortune wen we cut hav ad 2/2 gr8 players for the money we must av paid for him! Think Kelly mite be on his last legs.....he seems 2 hav a one pace game method.....we just cant seem to change the pace like the utha teams. I think ther sum gud quality players....and im sure under another coach cud certainly up their game!!! just can we afford to pay NK off!!'"
Is there an English version of this post?
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| well i for one fail to see what Mr Kelly is coaching these lads in training.
we have 1 move which is dummy half to 1st reciver drive in play the ball and thats it.
just watched the game again on TV and my thought are exactly the same.
I could coach a team to do that!!!!
We have a young inexperience side and losses are inevitable but the pay of YOU SHOULD get from this is inthusiasm. If they were throwing the ball about and making mistakes i could take that but 5 drives and a kick (if we dont just drive it in on the 6th how many time have we done that!!!) isnt acceptable.
Our Acadamy team play a miles better brand of RL than our first team.
If Mr Kelly lets these lads play then we might have a chance but at the moment we are heading 1 way Championship 1
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| We won't go down (sorry to spoil the thread), we will be in the playoffs from 5th or 6th.
Kelly has little money with a young squad, I expect results v Batley etc not v Fev who have spent a tidy sum to say the least.
We will only beat Fev / Barrow /Widnes / Toulouse etc if the club goes for broke (quite literally) and signs SL players (on SL contracts).
If people honestly thought we should beat Fev than you may be in for a season of dissapointment IMO - Leigh arn't the big "lower league" club they was and whilst many go for broke chasing a SL dream that will never happen Leigh are concentrating on working with the finances they have.
I'd agree with the argument that Leigh massively underperform off field year in year out that causes the financial 'shortfalls' - definatly a huge missed opportunity and something this current 'board' seem incapable or unwilling to rectify.
Kelly is best left in the job right now IMO, even Millward would struggle playing full time clubs (or largely full time v part time players) week in week out
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| I am told by a fellow die hard that the team when training do practice moves and pass the ball properly and the handling is surprisingly very good.
It,s not happening often in matches at the moment but we,ve still won 3.
Good to see Aaron Smith back and with a stand off and Higson to come back I am still hopefull that we will improve.
I,ll be at Batley can,t help it.
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| For those wanting rid of NK, who would you wish to replace him?
We're playing terrible rugby at the minute, bar the odd flash of passing rugby (and we showed last night that we can do it at times), but I genuinely think that we've got the best that we can afford to pay for, both in terms of the squad and coaching staff.
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| Quote ="JENKY" I expect results v Batley '"
We didn't get that either......so time to get real. We don't have a board, we don't have a coach and we don't have the players worthy of a place in the Championship.....or at least thats the impression they are giving the whole rugby league world at the moment. The club are also proving that the franchise decision to leave us out was 100% the correct one.
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| Has kelly lost the dressing room?After last nights display it appears he has trouble finding it.Mr kellys last job was defensive coach to ireland r.u.Maybe he should consider returning to the emerald isle.I for one am fed up of one man,down the middle rugby.
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"[size=150For those wanting rid of NK, who would you wish to replace him?[/size'"
[size=200=redTONY BENSON[/size
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| We won't go down, but we may struggle to make the top 6 if we put more performances in like that.
Our defence is sloppy when defending in our own half but this comes on the back of needless penalties. We need to improve that area of our game and stop giving stupid penatlies away on 4th and 5th tackles and stop giving away careless high tackles away.
We struggle to get field position because we recieve the ball and start our sets on the 10m line and we end up kicking on our own 40 and Fev start their sets on their 30m line.
Our forwards didn't look interested last night - they laboured back meaning backs like Mort, Maden and Stanton were taking our first 3 tackles and that rarely gets you on the front foot.
Our play the balls are slow and we have no pace around the ruck, even when Durbin came on, he didn't attack their line enough. We didn't seem to want to 'take a chance' until the last 10 minutes, we didn't ask enough questions with offloads and 2nd phase play - when we did, we made breaks and found gaps.
We should beat Batley on Monday if we cut out the silly errors.
Oh, and it would be a massive mistake to get rid of Kelly in my opinion.
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| Quote ="Keith Freeda"[size=200=redTONY BENSON[/size
Well he had his chance with a good squad and if you read the board the Oldham fans use at rlfans.org you might be surprised.
I rest my case M'Lord.'"
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| Quote ="Leyther_till_death"We won't go down, but we may struggle to make the top 6 if we put more performances in like that.
Our defence is sloppy when defending in our own half but this comes on the back of needless penalties. We need to improve that area of our game and stop giving stupid penatlies away on 4th and 5th tackles and stop giving away careless high tackles away.
We struggle to get field position because we recieve the ball and start our sets on the 10m line and we end up kicking on our own 40 and Fev start their sets on their 30m line.
Our forwards didn't look interested last night - they laboured back meaning backs like Mort, Maden and Stanton were taking our first 3 tackles and that rarely gets you on the front foot.
Our play the balls are slow and we have no pace around the ruck, even when Durbin came on, he didn't attack their line enough. We didn't seem to want to 'take a chance' until the last 10 minutes, we didn't ask enough questions with offloads and 2nd phase play - when we did, we made breaks and found gaps.
We should beat Batley on Monday if we cut out the silly errors.
Oh, and it would be a massive mistake to get rid of Kelly in my opinion.'"
Durbin doesn't attack the line enough! When he does he or we usually score
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| Quote ="WHERESYERBALL"Durbin doesn't attack the line enough! When he does he or we usually score'"
I agree, same with Jock. I think Stanton's non try and Rudd's try came from Jock running from dummy half and taking the ball to the line.
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| Quote ="Leyther_till_death"We won't go down, but we may struggle to make the top 6 if we put more performances in like that.
Our defence is sloppy when defending in our own half but this comes on the back of needless penalties. We need to improve that area of our game and stop giving stupid penatlies away on 4th and 5th tackles and stop giving away careless high tackles away.
We struggle to get field position because we recieve the ball and start our sets on the 10m line and we end up kicking on our own 40 and Fev start their sets on their 30m line.
Our forwards didn't look interested last night - they laboured back meaning backs like Mort, Maden and Stanton were taking our first 3 tackles and that rarely gets you on the front foot.
Our play the balls are slow and we have no pace around the ruck, even when Durbin came on, he didn't attack their line enough. We didn't seem to want to 'take a chance' until the last 10 minutes, we didn't ask enough questions with offloads and 2nd phase play - when we did, we made breaks and found gaps.
We should beat Batley on Monday if we cut out the silly errors.
Oh, and it would be a massive mistake to get rid of Kelly in my opinion.'"
That for me is the crucial thing. it's not a 1 off, we do it week in, week out. Cost us big style last night - especially in the 1st half which I thought we pretty much dominated.
one of my biggest moans of Kelly are the interchanges, we seemed to be piling them out in the 1st half - surely that must be part of the reason as to why we keep falling apart in the 2nd half of most matches.
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| Don't think we will go down but Batley is looking like a must win looking at the run of fixtures coming up...
Halifax (h)
Widnes (h)
Featherstone (a)
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Halifax (a)
Think we might be waiting for that first league win at home for a bit longer though.
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| Quote ="Bolton"Don't think we will go down but Batley is looking like a must win looking at the run of fixtures coming up...
Halifax (h)
Widnes (h)
Featherstone (a)
Gateshead (h)
Whitehaven (a)
Halifax (a)
Think we might be waiting for that first league win at home for a bit longer though.'"
because Widnes are burning along at the moment, aren't they
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| Quote ="ColD"because Widnes are burning along at the moment, aren't they
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| Have put on another post on here the only thing i blame Kelly for is that he accepted the job after being told who is backroom staff are??? no manager would do that at any sport at any level???
I watched the game on sky when i got in last night lots of shots of the bench (or morgue!!!) no life no action and that was our beloved assistant coach as well, i seem to remember he had much more passion on the pitch??
Just another thing on loan signings and signings?? Its no secret that within the game there is no love lost where the Rowleys are concerened lots of players dont like them and so wont come ... Again like i have said in the past its so easy to get rid of the outsider AGAIN Tony Benson??? and now Neil is getting the stick ....time to look further a field this time me thinks???
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| But whoever comes is going to be told the same as Kelly. "These are who your staff are." Until there are changes above the playing and coaching staff nothing will change.
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| Quote ="DemonUK"But whoever comes is going to be told the same as Kelly. "These are who your staff are." Until there are changes above the playing and coaching staff nothing will change.'"
Thats my point Demon.....i think me and you sing off same song sheet but be careful you cant diss TRUE leythers on here!! ha ha
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