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| Quote ="renniethebear"All the Smith lovers can finally button it once and for all. Greg may have a mistake in him but at least he offers something in attack! He's had an absolute shocker and cost us the game IMO, although I do appreciate we haven't been at the races on the whole. Hurry back Greg!'"
The same Greg who rarely runs a ball in, post opposition kick down field? Last night playing behind a bullied pack what would he have done differently? McNally seems more suited to Rowley's style of play. He's fast with a great pair of hands, but is he robust enough for Super League when things get tough?
Although it stings, I think the team will learn a lot from the experience at Leeds and it will be a blessing in disguise. Thursday night, away, damp pitch versus a very good Super League Leeds team with a 14th man on their side - the ref! Watching the game back, I think a lot can be learned from Leeds' tactics and it's evident you need to implement them in Super League to get that early dominance. After 30 mins of tackling consistently, Leigh were shattered. Different night, dry pitch, different ref = different result.
2017 is going to be great!
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| He would have caught Segayarro though. As for the ref, hewer never does us any favours. Was interesting to read some of Silverwoods views on incidents in the game
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| Game too far !!
We looked poor, and to be honest, Leeds played really patiently and that killed us.
Ridyard had the poorest game for a long time. Non existent and obvious that McDermott spotted his defensive frailties.
As already stated, its job done so no point criticising players. Headingley is a difficult place to go and we were lucky to keep Leeds to under 50 !!
Stroll on next year, and to all the players, Enjoy your break !! You all deserve it !!
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| Catching a player is one thing, bringing down is another - I personally prefer Smith's all-round game to Greg's but I'm not singling one out over the other.
Personally the only one in our team who could have caught and tackled Segeyaro was Higson and he obviously wasn't playing.
Losing Worthington early reduced our interchange options but Leeds were just too good.
Too many had a poor showing last night but the job was done and I'm not reading too much into this result but it is something that will definitely be learned from.
For us I think Hansen and Rene went the best and I agree with the crowd from vs Batley, Maitua really should do one more season for us.
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| No McNally makes the job much harder for Drinkwater and Riddy, no Patterson takes away more offensive options, No Higson then no Worthington left us with few options. I do believe that if McNally had played we would have scored first, and that would have made things intersting
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| Quote ="DemonUK"He would have caught Segayarro though. As for the ref, hewer never does us any favours. Was interesting to read some of Silverwoods views on incidents in the game'"
I agree, Smith looks larger than I remembered him, however he wasn't as slow as people seem to make out. Watch Chico's try again & you'll see Smith starts chasing back some distance away, makes ground and isn't that far from catching Segeyaro.
...however Segeyaro isn't the fastest hooker out there.
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| Dawson and one other (can't remember who) did catch him on another occasion....and quite easily too
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| I agree with most of these comments, I thought Lee Smith had a poor game today(yesterday) and was surprised when he was chosen ahead of Greg also would like to have seen Hood given a game ahead of Burns.
Fair due to Leeds they played with some great Intensity
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| It was already mission accomplished for Leigh. When it mattered, McNally was chosen ahead of Smith every time. Last night was a dead rubber, so fringe players were given an opportunity.
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| Quote ="django"I agree, Smith looks larger than I remembered him, however he wasn't as slow as people seem to make out. Watch Chico's try again & you'll see Smith starts chasing back some distance away, makes ground and isn't that far from catching Segeyaro.
...however Segeyaro isn't the fastest hooker out there.'"
Is that Chico or Cheeky ? sarcastic waving to chasing players has a habit of coming back to haunt you! I look forward to the future!!
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| Quote ="kirkhall"Is that Chico or Cheeky ? sarcastic waving to chasing players has a habit of coming back to haunt you! I look forward to the future!!'"
Very True Kirky, I remember Ryan Field house doing it against us at the Shay, he was reminded of it a few times after we beat them on a regular basis.
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| Quote ="kirkhall"Is that Chico or Cheeky ? =#FF0000sarcastic waving to chasing players has a habit of coming back to haunt you! I look forward to the future!!'"
A bit like Acton's infuriating habit of patting opposition players on the head, when they have made an error. Totally disrespectful.
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| Bit like Barry Sheen giving the V's to Roberts as He passed only to be overtaken a lap later!
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| Personally (I watched it today on Sky+) I don't think one Leigh player had their very best game & overall Leigh played poor.
HH & Dayne did a good enough job although Dayne looked a little overly wound up for the game.
Hock got caught up in the niggle as did Travis Burns, the ref had no option with most decisions against us as we were our own worst enemies & he got most things right.
Lee Smith didn't have his finest hour but I think he was selected for his better defensive ability. A few years back he would have chased Segeyaro down easily & buried him but did look a little portly & slow last night, in fact I said this to the Mrs.
Leeds played well enough to control the game without being anything great, the penalty count, lack of respect for the ball (not clamping the ball in the tackle & allowing multiple offloads) killed us, lots of metres made on offloads by Rhinos, lots of metres lost on penalties from Leigh.
Yeah it was a nothing game but this was the minimum level *shown by Leeds* that Leigh have to reach in 2017 to be competitive.
Hope all the lads & Derek/Jukesy enjoy Portugal & get refreshed & fit for SL 2017.
Hope that the signing being announced Sunday is NOT Kevin Penny *POOP*.
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"Personally (I watched it today on Sky+) I don't think one Leigh player had their very best game & overall Leigh played poor.
HH & Dayne did a good enough job although Dayne looked a little overly wound up for the game.
Hock got caught up in the niggle as did Travis Burns, the ref had no option with most decisions against us as we were our own worst enemies & he got most things right.
Lee Smith didn't have his finest hour but I think he was selected for his better defensive ability. A few years back he would have chased Segeyaro down easily & buried him but did look a little portly & slow last night, in fact I said this to the Mrs.
=#FF0000Leeds played well enough to control the game without being anything great, the penalty count, lack of respect for the ball (not clamping the ball in the tackle & allowing multiple offloads) killed us, lots of metres made on offloads by Rhinos, lots of metres lost on penalties from Leigh.
Yeah it was a nothing game but this was the minimum level *shown by Leeds* that Leigh have to reach in 2017 to be competitive.
Hope all the lads & Derek/Jukesy enjoy Portugal & get refreshed & fit for SL 2017.
Hope that the signing being announced Sunday is NOT Kevin Penny *POOP*.'"
The reasons highlighted plus:- Missed tackles Leeds 18, Leigh [size=15046[/size (from Leeds Rhinos Match statistics) That's a lot of missed tackles!
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| Had this match been a must win game, Leigh's approach would have been different. Smith would not have been selected for starters. Paterson would have played. Hood would have retained his place. It was a nice touch from the coaching staff, to let Tonga play alongside Reni for his final match. Similarly, Burns and Smith were given a game. Unfortunately, on top of this, Worthington went down early and Higson had to pull out before KO. Leeds also had changes, but more will always be made of these.
The main reason for the performance, IMO, is that it was a nothing match. Leigh were still on cloud nine after their magnificent achievements thus far. Leeds expected to stay up all along. They would not have felt the same sense of elation. Look at Hull. They have been one of the top sides in SL all season. They've still not come down from their achievements at Wembley. It is normal.
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| Without Higson and Worthington our right side defence was thin and Leeds 2nd/3rd tries went down that side.( The Jones-Buchanan tackle had quite an influence on that game: he should get suspended as it was a pre-meditated action that could have done a lot more damage.). After that Leeds get that breakaway. It was one of those nights.
Having said that Leeds played with great intensity: stopping Dawson in the first half the way they did illustrated that. Oh and Leigh were pretty awful for most of the last hour. Once we didn't score early on we seemed to lose patience.
Still, imagine the reaction had we won! It's a defeat that'll do no harm in the long run.
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| Quote ="underthesticks"Had this match been a must win game, Leigh's approach would have been different. Smith would not have been selected for starters. Paterson would have played. Hood would have retained his place. It was a nice touch from the coaching staff, to let Tonga play alongside Reni for his final match. Similarly, Burns and Smith were given a game. Unfortunately, on top of this, Worthington went down early and Higson had to pull out before KO. Leeds also had changes, but more will always be made of these.
The main reason for the performance, IMO, is that it was a nothing match. Leigh were still on cloud nine after their magnificent achievements thus far. Leeds expected to stay up all along. They would not have felt the same sense of elation. Look at Hull. They have been one of the top sides in SL all season. They've still not come down from their achievements at Wembley. It is normal.'"
Agree with everything you say there.
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| Quote ="underthesticks"Had this match been a must win game, Leigh's approach would have been different. Smith would not have been selected for starters. =#FF0000Paterson would have played. Hood would have retained his place. It was a nice touch from the coaching staff, to let Tonga play alongside Reni for his final match. Similarly, Burns and Smith were given a game. Unfortunately, on top of this, Worthington went down early and Higson had to pull out before KO. Leeds also had changes, but more will always be made of these.
The main reason for the performance, IMO, is that it was a nothing match. Leigh were still on cloud nine after their magnificent achievements thus far. Leeds expected to stay up all along. They would not have felt the same sense of elation. Look at Hull. They have been one of the top sides in SL all season. They've still not come down from their achievements at Wembley. It is normal.'"
I agree with most of the views expressed. However, was that not Patterson in a track suit, watching the warm up before the game, with his arm in plaster, and in a sling?
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| Quote ="Alan"The reasons highlighted plus:- Missed tackles Leeds 18, Leigh [size=15046[/size (from Leeds Rhinos Match statistics) That's a lot of missed tackles!'"
That is a [iBAD[/i statistic & it was plainly obvious watching the match.
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| Not a cockayne lover but he plays as a full back should and carries the ball with speed power. and confidence mostly, Something wev'e not seen at Leigh since before Gregs injury
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| I know a few COCAINE lovers though lol.
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| Quote ="Leythersteve"Not a cockayne lover but he plays as a full back should and carries the ball with speed power. and confidence mostly, Something wev'e not seen at Leigh since before Gregs injury'"
Made a spectacular mess of catching Drinkwater's kick, for Matty Dawson's try at HKR though!
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| He is only human though. And we all make mistakes as it proved collectively on Thursday at Leeds
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| Quote ="Leythersteve"He is only human though. And we all make mistakes =#FF0000as it proved collectively on Thursday at Leeds'"
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