Its not really possible to do most of the things you'd like doing at the lsv were as at fev its so easy to do.

Where did I say "I would like" these at LSV?

I don't think we'll get P&R, I think SL brought in twinning to make sure they could scupper any promotion for any club that was twinned, and the intention of twinning is to destroy any club that hasn't, the RFL at its usual tricks, they really do seem determined to wipe the game out.

Were would you like them then? and if you dont want to do what fev are doing WTF are you going about it for?

Plenty of spring chickens like me among our fan base



And admittedly that is a worry.

It is something myself and my pal Arthur have commented on a lot recently. Where in the stadium is all our junior fans, where are the incentives for families and youngsters, the new wave that will drive our club forward in future?

The fact is that there is a very healthy number of youngsters still very much interested in RL in Leigh.

The problem is that we as a club have been missing from the top party for a long time and equally the club have ignored them for a long time, failing to recognise their importance as a group.

Instead , the town's youngsters now all have a favourite Super League club.

I think you and your mate Arthur are right and if this club is ever to increase its support base substantially then i think at some point someone is going to have to bite the bullet and open the door to kids free of charge.

Have I dreamt this, or did they used to have kids fair rides etc in front of the West Stand a couple of years ago?

I never said I wanted them anywhere!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, I didn't realise that it was wrong to make an observation and post a comment about it !!!!!!!!!!



No wonder folk can't be bothered posting on here anymore.......................

Yea i think they did,shame they didn't keep it up if they could afford it.

Probably not possible in this day and age, but it would be good if during the summer the corners were used as some kind of play area for kids during the game, as a way of getting them through the turnstiles. Hopefully as they get older they will by then be used to going to the LSV every Sunday and picked up an interest in the club too.

Its all H&S isn't it so as you say its unlikely to happen.
We all agree we need hundreds more youngsters coming through the turnstiles, but the club is losing money, so how do they.No matter how many ideas we come up with, in one way or another they all cost money.

You've got to speculate to accumulate as they say, but easier said than done. I think the key to success is becoming a fundamental pillar of the community through working with schools etc, I understand work is already being done in this area so hopefully the results will follow in time.

Fevs ground is a dump it's like a living museum to bring that place up to scratch they are better off knocking it down and rebuilding it...Apart from that they have a good set up great team ect but the place looks like it saw better days in the 1950's

The ground is far from a dump, it is very tidy new toilet blocks all over the place no s troughs like at some super league grounds near us, new frontage and turnstyles, new gym for the players, wrestle room, new viewing lounge for vips, 2 very tidy stands, and 2 more to go up and despite being 2nd hand they will look new when up, loads of new vip boxes, new classroom, new disabled cafe and office space under the new stand, it is far from a dump and will be fit for purpose in 12 months time. i went to my 1st league game last week and i noticed a buzz about the place that i havent experienced for a good few years and the crowd with only a handful of barrow fans was excellent. I now firmly believe we will in the not too distant future be in the top flight

Fair enough.Which Non Relegatable Club will you replace in your opinion ?

I personally think there will be 2 super league divisions with P and R between the 2, but even if not i think some of the current super league clubs will implode. I heard from a good source the Steve ferres resigned at Cas because he wanted to take the club into Admin believing it was the only way but chairman Jack foulton wouldnt because he is owed 3 million by the club, i strongly think we could replace them because there going down the gary Glitter

Thanks for your reply.

I had seen the resignation story of the Cas CEO and it did make me think.

Seems to me that licenscing like club's twinning are two big mistakes and with two divisions of say 12 clubs would the rest be history ?

Ok you can pick 12 teams for Superleague 1 but 12 in Superleague 2 it does get a bit more difficult doesn't it ?

Maybe Sky money might be shared more equitably throughout the game but personally I can't see that happening.

Serious question has the game gone forwards or backwards since the introduction of licenscing ?

I was there for the opening match against the Centurions it was like a nite at the museum lol
Knock it down and re.build

Backwards although i think there is more to it than licencing. Some of the super league clubs are a joke, they get 1,3 million a year and cant afford to run a meaningful reserve comp its disgraceful. Rovers fund there own u18s to the tune of 100k we fund it ourselves, yet last season we were to play Huddersfield who get theres paid for by the rfl and they couldnt raise a team so we got the points, so my question is are the RFL getting there moneys worth giving them the 100k to run there u18s, i would suggest not. There will be no tears shed from me when some of those self centred, self styled elite of the game go bust

Very obviously, we haven,t got things right at the moment, so, just a suggestion- For first half of season, combine current Super League and Championship into 2 Leagues - perhaps east and West - perhaps without a couple of Championship strugglers. Play each other once only then divide into Super League 1 and Super League 2. If you play at home this season then its away next season. Teams like Fev and Leigh will find their true level - as will Broncos and Cas! P&R will be part of the structure. (Leigh would play Wigan,Wire,Saints,Widnes in true competitive games - with crowds to match? and Fev would play Leeds,Huddersfield, Hull, Bradford etc. Broncos and Catalans would have to be allocated arbitrarily _ good word for 9 pm!- to East or West. I reckon this would be a lifeline for financially strapped Championship sides.)
Of course, its too sensible to ever happen

I'd be amazed if the RFL continue with franchising.

Knocking it down and building a new one is not an option. For anyone who was there the other week you would see a lot of building work is going ahead and if it all goes to plan the stadium will be the best in the Calder area and I bet a club local to us wish they were making these same improvements Off the field the work the community team do is excellent and the best it has ever been There is things going on every day at the club for the community to get involved in the Easter camp will probably sell out and things just keep improving I also think there will be a 2 tier S/L but if there is not and our application goes in I hope we get assessed they same as everyone else and if we are one of the 14 top clubs we get in. If we are not and it is done fairly we will have to work harder and do better for the next round By this time next year we should know

Your doing great work at Fev but Franchising has never been done fairly so don't expect to get in has for two Div in SL it's a great idea but the greedy gits already in won't agree to that it means the Sky money will have to be spread a little more No Chance

I would say Fev are in pole position at the moment. They've been making the right noises for quite some time now, their crowds are steadily increasing and they've been the most consistent side at this level for 3 years. I think if they'd turned that dominance into more than just the one GF trophy they'd be a shoe-in by now.

Still, reading this thread, I wonder if there is something in the water in Leigh that makes us defeatist?

Go back to 2008 when the first set of licenses were announced. Allan Rowley spat his dummy out, rightly some would say (including myself at the time - particularly regarding the Crusaders farce), meanwhile, over in Widnes O'Connor sucked it up and knew that if they kept their head down and stuck at it they'd be a shoe-in by 2012. Leigh could've done the same and strenghtened our own position, instead we nearly get relegated.

Fast forward to today, we have Fev fans feeling rightly optimistic after their club has knuckled down and done so much hard work to get where it is. Whereas, we have fans on here saying [i'you won't get in'[/i etc. If Leigh had been as dominant as Fev have these last 3 years, with the improving crowds they're getting would we be as pessimistic or would we be shouting it from the rooftops?

I appreciate the position the club was in toward the back end of 2011 has probably set the club back a few years, despite the remarkable achievements on the field last season. However, since that day in 2008, is there one area where Leigh RL can say they've out performed Featherstone as a club? Despite the opportunity of getting one of the best RL grounds in the country with excellent training & office facilities, crowds are in sharp decline and academies & community departments have been chopped & changed and even culled. Contrast this back to Fev.

If Fev were given a license next season. I wonder what the reaction of Leigh RL would be. Would they get their act together knowing what is at stake or would they continue to shoot themselves in the foot. What would the reaction of the fans be? Would we believe that maybe there is a place in SL for us, or would we continue feeling sorry for ourselves because we didn't get in?

Its probably between Fax and Fev but I cant see either getting the go ahead to be honest. Im also not sure that Fev taking on Probiz will have done them any favors in the eyes of the RFL. Who knows maybe his promises wont be hollow this time but I wouldnt hold my breath.

I cant see any reason why Leigh wouldnt get in apart from the crowds(same for everyone though) its just theres probably 2 teams better placed.