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| Ive seen it all now.
Hardacker has to remind the ref that players have to be 10 metres at the penalty conversion.
Ref replies “Oh, yeh !” Then tells them to get back to 10 and not a player moves. All still within 10 at the kick.
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| That”ll do pig !
I’m off back to bed. 6am for heavens sake
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| This 6 game winning streak in the league is now our second longest winning streak in the top division (since 2+ divisions were introduced in the 70's) and our longest since our 12 match winning streak en route to winning the league championship in 1981/82.
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| Quote ="Vancouver Leyther"Sweet Jesus this ref is a nightmare. Wakeys game plan based on being a mile offside and he’s not even looking.
Then Reynolds sent off for a closed fist push to the shoulder that then goes into the neck with no force, AFTER FiFita had just done the same in the same confrontation.
THEN Nesbitt sent for 10 a tackle where momentum takes him quickly sideways and his feet naturally go with him. How is that a bloody hip drop.
One unhappy Leyther here at 04:45 in Vanvcouver. The guy is killing our game.'"
The first sentence is wholly agreed with, Vanners. But Bongser thinks that Ben's brainfart warranted what it got. Let Fifita wind him up (DF's only meaningful contribution all game), let his team mates down and ultimately cost us third spot. Out of character, yes, but so was Nene's provoked punch against Fev last season and (IBRC) that got him a four match rest. Hopefully the disciplinary panel can't meet before our early turnaround next Friday so Ben can face FC before serving the first match of his "holiday" against York.
Nisbet was unlucky. It was technically a hip-drop tackle but clearly unintentional and the "victim" (and, boy, did he play it) was unharmed and played on. Common sense SHOULD prevail and lead to no further sanction - but this is Rugby League! With Halton out long term, let's hope Kai's back is not too bad.
Disappointed not to nil Wakey - not ill-will but rather what it cost us. My though, (should that be "HIS" though) what an Herculean effort in defence for nearly three quarters of the game post red card.
Adrian Lam take another bow! And the lads of course.
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| Not quite the show for the cameras that we hoped for but in reality how could it have been with a numpty ref and down to 12 then 11 for a spell .Got annoyed with Ben for being sent off but we dont need to give him jip he,LL be doing that himself tonight we can focus on a huge team spirited performance by keeping a team all be it a poor team down to 1 try . Wanted that third spot ( am I being greedy ) but the table will sort it self out , if we beat hull and the pies come unstuck against the "real saints"that were on show today that spot will be ours and then boy will the season get really interesting!
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| Yes, I agree with both Bongser and Bobby. Ben was stupid. It was a red card offence and it could have cost us dear. At his age and experience he should know better but the red mist clearly came down.
I also thought he was very lucky to escape sanction for provoking the brawl at the hooter at the Warrington game when he needlessly piled in to Williams. That was a stupid reaction and was totally unnecessary yet he felt the need to needle Williams whilst he was already held up in the tackle and the hooter had sounded. Not very bright Benjamin!
The red card impacted upon what happened next for the remainder of the game. I think we got out of jail. We got away with one and occasionally still looked very slick. We will put on a show for the cameras one day. Just a shame it wasn't today. Ben can now reflect on that and it will be interesting to see what will happen if Mellor plays well during the suspension period. Joe may well play himself back in to the starting 13 when Ben is available to play again. If that happens then Ben will have even more to reflect upon.
I don't think Lammy was too pleased with his lack of discipline when he made reference to Reynolds in his half time chat to the utterly gorgeous Jenna.
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| What about FATFITA's punch?
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| Doesn't look good but Bongser thinks that it was a flat hand. Still needless afters from the Big Boffer (he spent most of his time on the field "blowing out of his Rs".)
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| Don't get to see too much rugby live, but made a special trip to magic weekend. Sharing a hotel with the wakey team last night and had a long chat with a couple of senior players in the sauna. They told a sorry tale of poor standards through the club and morale is absolutely rock bottom. They were all resigned to relegation already.
I was therefore very confident while I took my seat. I thought leigh were outstanding in defence particularly when down to 11. The camaraderie was palpable in the stands. The players belief in themselves was there to see. A magic effort. Reynolds got what he deserved. You simply cannot do that in today's game. I just hope his ban is not extensive. I fear it maybe. Still confused by Nesbitt's yellow. It just looked a fair tackle.
We quietly have a very good team. As I said preseason, our middles are as good as anyone, the left edge particularly is outstanding and our defence is right up there. For the first time in about 30 years I feel we might be about to compete at the top table and am more excited than a 52 year old has any right to be. This team has turned me into a small child again.
Onwards and upwards. Come on the leopards.
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| Quote ="Bent&Bongser"Doesn't look good but Bongser thinks that it was a flat hand. Still needless afters from the Big Boffer (he spent most of his time on the field "blowing out of his Rs".)'"
Looks clenched to me. Don't get me wrong, Reynolds was foolish. The yellow was poor decision. Ref was poor today also.
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| It does but only as Ben's jaw is showing though and (cameras always lie) "completes the fist".
Agree the ref was terrible today. Bongser's not a ref baiter, so we'll put it down a bad day at the office.
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| Agreed Ben was momentarily not at his best but still don’t think it’s a red. No contact with the head. Yellow for the instigator as a late drop and then poke for me, but all done bar the 2 game ban which I think will undoubtably follow.
As my old Golborne Comp coach Dennis McHugh always insisted if you got punched, when they hit you for the first time, just laugh back at them, and the ref should sort it. The same for the second and the ref should really sort it. If there is a third, flatten em’ back and the whole team goes in.
As for the game, it certainly kept me absorbed and on the edge of my seat for a while, especially with 11 men defending our line like their life depended on it.
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| Quote ="Cokey"Looks clenched to me. Don't get me wrong, Reynolds was foolish. The yellow was poor decision. Ref was poor today also.'"
Quote Quote ="Bent&Bongser"[u[size=150It does[/size [/ubut only as Ben's jaw is showing though and (cameras don't lie) "completes the fist".'" '"
And that's all that matters. Hopefully the MRP will see this.
Ben's was merely a touch to the shoulder and neck. Nevertheless, his action was foolish and justtified.
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| And just seen the screen shot from Cokey. Shows exactly what I said at the time. FiFita throws and contacts with the first punch, while holding Reynolds by the jersey with the other (with Hardaker the meat in the sandwich). I actually thought it was similar to Ben’s where it didn’t make clear contact with the head (more like neck as per Ben’s) but picture shows otherwise. Time to get writing a complaint, and mitigating circumstances reports.
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| Quote ="Cokey"And that's all that matters. Hopefully the MRP will see this.
Ben's was merely a touch to the shoulder and neck. Nevertheless, his action was foolish and justtified.'"
Bang on Cokey.
Get this sent to DB
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| I have no issue with Ben being sent off or the punishment that he will receive, he is not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy.
I do however, have 2 gripes:
1. Fifita trundled 10 yards to instigate that fight, and should be punished for his part in the fray.
2. Ben did not hit him hard enough. If you are going to throw a punch, make sure it is a haymaker.
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| Just a touch of bias in some of the comments but Reynolds got what he deserved, he has a good disciplinary record so should only get 1/2 games, the yellow card was harsh but there will be no further action.
Impressive kicking from Hardaker shouldn’t be ignored.
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| My post are not to justify or defend Ben. Ben also came into the tackle with a flop which was not necessary, hence Fatfita's reaction.
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| Quote ="Septimius Severus"I have no issue with Ben being sent off or the punishment that he will receive, he is not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy.
I do however, have 2 gripes:
[u1. Fifita trundled 10 yards to instigate that fight, and should be punished for his part in the fray.[/u
2. Ben did not hit him hard enough. If you are going to throw a punch, make sure it is a haymaker.'"
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| Was Ben at Wakey with Fifita, maybe there is previous beef but as has been noted before, our players that played for Yorkshire teams (even if they are from there) know the Yorks/Lancs rivalry and play up to it too.
I left wonder if, you watch the highlights, the first try of Lam's, Fifita puts a shoulder shot on Asiata which the ref calls as a penalty but for the try, perhaps Ben serving up some desserts. Again not that this is justification.
Oh, to nil them would see us 3rd. Still, a good performance overall considering everything.
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| Quote ="reffy"Just a touch of bias in some of the comments but Reynolds got what he deserved, he has a good disciplinary record so should only get 1/2 games, [uthe yellow card was harsh but there will be no further action.[/u
Impressive kicking from Hardaker shouldn’t be ignored.'"
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| We're "backrowlite" as we await news on Kai so Tom's silly (Bongser is with Reffy on this) punishment is a blow. Better than feared for Ben though. Still, a resurgent FC become more of a challenge on Friday.
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| How far is the missing Jack Hughes from return?
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