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| Quote ="frankb"Of course it is but they have two home games in the NRC preliminary rounds.'"
Expect a change in the format to give everybody an extra match
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| The RFL has done everything possible to ensure the continuing involvement of Blackpool Panthers in Co-operative Championship One and we had every hope that a credible plan would be presented.
change the name to BLACKPOOL....CRUSADERS...FULHAM...BRONCOS...HARLEQUINS..and move to south wales now that should do it
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| If you love rugby league, which we all do on this forum then indeed the demise of any club is a sad day. However clubs will have to learn the hard way that chucking money around you have not got can only last for so long before it catches up with you.
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| It is no surprise that the main instigator of Blackpool's demise is the same person who started the rot at Leigh in the eighties... Bobby Hope! This guy should not be allowed near any sporting organisation ever again!
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| Quote ="WOLRAB"If you love rugby league, which we all do on this forum then indeed the demise of any club is a sad day. However clubs will have to learn the hard way that chucking money around you have not got can only last for so long before it catches up with you.'"
Hmmmm I wonder how much is owed to AT in directors loans?
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones
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| i dread to think fred,i really do.
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| Lets hope long may it continue with Arthur's support hopefully he's looking at aspirations of SL 2015 for us
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| Bring back Ando
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| Quote ="FredParky1"Hmmmm I wonder how much is owed to AT in directors loans?
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones'"
If AT asks for his loans back then the club goes pop, a new club is formed and we carry on.
We can do this because we have a big enough RL fanbase, Blackpool dont.
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| Quote ="sex on legs"If AT asks for his loans back then the club goes pop, a new club is formed and we carry on.
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We carry on in what League though, fan base is pretty poor now and would be even poorer in Division 1.
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| We carry on, Widnes got a 9pt deduction didnt they? A few years on its SL time. Dont get me wrong I appreciate the finance AT makes available to the club and hope he stays forever, but I am sure he will be the first to say the club is bigger than any of us.
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| As I said to my ol' friend Starbug t'other week on the VT
We're heading to a reunification of the Chps with about 16 teams in
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| and we need to look inwards as a result of the RFL's disregard for the non SL heartlands, which means no French club and no Welsh club in the 16 team, 30 game Championship.
15 home games plus a end of season KO would bring in the revenue, start in December, GF first week in August followed by seeded ko over 4 weeks, ie 1 v 16, 2 v 15 etc
Get SL fans for first few weeks of season, big Xmas derbies eg Widnes Boxing day 2000/1? 6700 gate
Better structure than the other options if we dont get a 20 club SL over 2 divisions.
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| French teams no, Welsh teams yes.
France has its own domestic comp and lets be honest, if Tou hadn't have flunked in the Championship (to be fair its a tough comp) they'd have bided their time in the Elite and be in come 2012 along with Widnes imo.
At the time, the split to 2 was right, as of now i'd be looking at a reunification
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| Only accept a club if its in the interests of the clubs, CC were fast tracked and the clubs used, do not let it happen without some GUARANTEED money in return.
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| So you disagree with how the Scorpions are going?
That's ridiculously insular if so.
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| Quote ="Dico"As I said to my ol' friend Starbug t'other week on the VT
We're heading to a reunification of the Chps with about 16 teams in'"
I think you are right there but without the opportunity of promotion ambition will wither and then it will be 14 then 12 and so on.
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| I dont think so tbh.
The most important level that needs sorting, imo, is the level under C1.
Have is so ALL amateur teams in the country play to the same system, and have a north south divide or even east and west too and you have a national amateur champion. The elite winners of these seasons could apply to join the semi pro ranks. Not entirely sure how it would work, it's best left to better brains than mine but i'd send Gateshead, Skolars down there too, they could even pay players expenses if they wanted and have one national amateur competition where the region winners compete in the final, who can then apply to join the pro ranks. I think you'd get one or two teams finding their way to the top and professional status could be looked at.
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| Well the trouble with that is most fans aren't as passionate as they think they are and do not have enough patience. I honestly cannot understand why for example Wakefield Cas HKR Salford should be ring fenced at the expense of a Championship club with aspirations.
Why should there be no opportunity for ambition? What the RFL has done would not be legal in commerce and I cannot get my head around that.
Almost 2000 years ago Emperor Claudius banned monopolies and why do you think he did that ?
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| Franchising was the way to go imo, you wont change my view on that.
However, in 2012 I think it should be 2 down and 2 up, problem is.. I dont want Crusaders to go. I genuinely believe there's potential there.
2015 will be 16 teams anyway so you'll see 2 more up
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| Quote ="Dico"So you disagree with how the Scorpions are going?
That's ridiculously insular if so.'"
My blueprint is simple 20 clubs in SL, 2x10. 2 french and 2 welsh are needed, but if that is a no go then we must vote as the other turkeys have voted and that is insular. We need to toughen up and not be dumped on if we are to change/influence the rfl's agenda ie if we refused to accept the Scorpions into the Championship of 16 clubs they would be either fast tracked to SL or go bump, so if they wish to do a CC then fast track them, if they wish the club to grow organically then the championship clubs use some leverage.
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| We wouldnt find 20 clubs in the Short term.
2 conferences of 8/9 East v West, we solve almost every problem including the players playing too many games line.
Until then reunite the Chps at 16 clubs
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| Quote ="Dico"I dont think so tbh.
The most important level that needs sorting, imo, is the level under C1.
Have is so ALL amateur teams in the country play to the same system, and have a north south divide or even east and west too and you have a national amateur champion. The elite winners of these seasons could apply to join the semi pro ranks. Not entirely sure how it would work, it's best left to better brains than mine but i'd send Gateshead, Skolars down there too, they could even pay players expenses if they wanted and have one national amateur competition where the region winners compete in the final, who can then apply to join the pro ranks. =#FF0000I think you'd get one or two teams finding their way to the top and professional status could be looked at.'"
Quite possibly , maybe clubs like
Warrington Wizards
Leigh East
Bramley
Huddersfield Underbank
Siddall
East hull
, Can you see a ' trend ' developing here , that might be a problem for some ?
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| The 14 consists of South France Aussies and we have North Wales Aussies. Add Toulouse, Leigh, Fax, Widnes, Fev and Barrow for your 20. Drop Cas, Wakey, Salford and HKR into the 6 and you have a gap that is breachable in year 1, as long as you know in April/May at latest.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Quite possibly , maybe clubs like
Warrington Wizards
Leigh East
Bramley
Huddersfield Underbank
Siddall
East hull
, Can you see a ' trend ' developing here , that might be a problem for some ?'"
I agree Starbug, completely.
If that's the case then so be it.
We keep hearing there's great amateur links around the country, if so then these areas will beat those sides.
If Bramley draw bigger support than Hunslet then they replace or add to the Chp. For me the Chp would also be franchised and so this club would have to show they could really add something to the league. They could be promoted at any time and any club winning the national title would have the right to apply.
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