Clueless

Good argument

It's an observation not an argument

Clueless

So you believe we shouldn't be trying to fill the stadium ?

This ' observation ' taking a bit longer ?

Just having some food

Get back to attractive rugby and the crowds will come

well for a change , you are at least partly right Peter

With respect I question your figure of a £1.4m investment. Was that the investment used prior to promotion to SL? I recall you stating how much it cost to run the club, and without DB we wouldn't have one.
So how does it equate now for 2019, that you can run a club on £350k ? And still have those running costs,without financial input?

The wage bill was paid for in 2017. So what investment was made in 2017? I recall to break even without investment for that year was an average home attendance of 5,500. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the figure was boasted and more than matched.

So yes they maybe clueless comments, but your own don't add up.

How much and when isn't really any of our business or even revelant . Derek has invested a substantial amount , the exact amount is his business and his business alone

We were in a bad place unable to pay wages and tax when he got back involved , since then we've been in SL and essentially paid or come to agreement to pay everybody

If he's still involved , albeit without committing to major investment ATM , but no doubt still covering some shortfalls of which there are many when running a sports club , and he is happy with that , then I for one am happy that he is still around

Some seem to believe or want to believe he's saving up for another tilt at SL when Mr Argyles millions are out of the way , me , I couldn't care less and as long as he's willing to keep us operating then I'm happy with whatever financial ' back up ' he is willing to commit to

As I've put , I personally believe we need to look to at working much harder to build our one primary long term source of income , fans

Even though it’s been removed now

What's irrelevant usually becomes relevant because the latter is ignored. People in the know spouting what should been done to protect their own interest is irrelevant to me. That has been shown in many posts.

As for your ideas Starbug,I would back them all day long.

I think I know what you mean , I'll give it some more ' dissecting ' later

What's relevant is that what's gone is gone. What we should now all be doing is concentrating on what we can do to make the future brighter. Buy your STs/attend as many games as you can/ buy the shirts etc. And above all make the LSV loud and proud because at the end of the day we are and always will be LEYTHERS.

Spot on Dave.

agreed

I simply cannot comprehend all those who criticize what DB has brought to the club, OK, we are told he may have ventured into different aspects and functions within the club that with his limited expierence he should have let those who knew better get on with, but in hindsight the club was doing far better on the field of play than when he succumbed to the criticism he recieved, so he took a step backwards and employed and put his trust in Kieron Cunningham a mistake of catastrophic proportions as events have prooved.
Those who write on sites such as this do so mainly because they have the club at heart, we put in our own suggestions for the betterment of the club not to harm it, the reason we write comments is that we are naturally reactive not passive that is why we take the trouble to write in the first place. I would wager not one man jack of us had we payed for that privilege as DB has done would not have wanted a say in how OUR money was being utilised.
DB has done OK in life, and he could quite easily spend his well earned on anything he wanted, but in doing what he did in the case of Leigh Centurions he effectively shared a lot money with the people of the town of Leigh Lancashire, whatever he does in the future I for one will be grateful for the journey he has taken us on these past few seasons.
If he does has he has hinted, take the club on a year of relative fallow ground with the team till TWP are out of the way, then I wish him all the best if he decides to have another go, if the saying you have to "pay to learn" is correct then I can't wait for the next instalment hoping that with expierence he comes back bigger and better.

There’s lots of people who own businesses but don’t get involved in day to day running, recruitment procurement etc, they leave it to and trust those they’ve employed, if that’s not working they change those employees.

The company I work for the Chairman owns 52% but has no involvement other than an annual board meeting with the two other directors.

If DB needs to get involved and micro manage those around him then he’s employing the wrong calibre of people.

Stop talking sense Glow..

Precisely Glow, and I know where you are coming from with that statement, BUT and it is a big BUT Leigh Centurions is not DB's core buisness, it does not make him his fortune, it is essentially his pastime, he does not need to gift his money to the club, he could easily race those fast cars he likes, play the worlds most exculsive golf courses or anything else he desires up to his budget limit he invested in the club, it was/is essentially his hobby.
Regarding his staff, apart from the playing roster his two most important employees were his coach and DoR, without contradiction from anyone I will argue till the cows come home, that those appointments and loyalty to them by DB have put the club in the predicament we are in today.
I don't know your company or even the size of it, but in a completely different way to your Chairman, I had a company of some 50 employees but I was "hands on" avaiable 24/7 lets say nose to the grindstone, which I felt I needed to be and was involved in most of those aspects you say owner's need not get involved in!

Good morning Harry,

The company I work for also has 50 employees, the chairman owns several companies in a variety of business fields but mainly steel industry, and he doesn’t ‘work’ in any of them, he obviously feels he can leave it to the experts in those industries.

You felt you needed a hands on approach in your company so be it that’s your choice, but as you say we aren’t talking about DB’s main business here, how much of an expert is he in RL or the entertainment industry?

I’ve stood on the terrace watching Leigh now for over 50 years, I’ve coached LMR under 8-10’s, and played a sheep in St Gabriel’s nativity play for 3 years running, if I won the Euro lottery tonight and bought Leigh RL would you all have confidence in me?



Joking a side, I should add at this point I don’t know DB, and I’ve said it before I’m grateful for what he has done investing in Leigh RL but I don’t necessarily agree with some of his comments/actions.

Hi Glow, thank you for your response, firstly and not boasting (if indeed it can be construed as a boast) I will trump you as a speccy, 1959 first visit to Hilton Park as a 6 year old with my Dad and going ever since, secondly coached over the water from LMR 13 to 16's at the East, but you do me in your thespian activities, my one and only sojourn on the 'boards' was in 1960 as a policeman in St Jo'es pantomime.
Now, if you won the lottery and good luck with that, having aquired over 50 years expierence of this great game, and you invested a substantial amount into the club, do you expect you could discipline yourself enough not to get involved in anything you deemed you maybe could influence to the betterment, for DB would never purposefully suggest anything in the negative sense.

My involvement should I win

, would be far less than what I understand DB’s has previously been, but I’ve no doubt he has done what he feels was the best course of action.

Myself I would like to think I would be disciplined enough to avoid day to day issues, I would of course ask questions with regards to how wisely my money was being spent and expect certain results/targets to be achieved both on and off the field.

Failure takes many different routes with people. This could end up with DB being the golden child again.

Its down to what happens on that field of play,at the end of the day.

The passion he showed with his wallet is firmly back on the fans.

The challenges ahead we can't comment on, as we've not seen this squad play.

But either way, failure or some success will still leave DB in a strong position.

His reversal of heart (as within his statement) is based upon failure/success now. As fans we need to challenge that by simply putting bums on seats and supporting the new squad and staff in place.

Lets crack on, and give him a show..

Regardless of age, what you know or experience, the challenge is set..

Lets go rip it up..



PS. I'll be in North Stand with my prawn sandwiches DB if you want a pint..

Thanks for the dispensation..

As I've pointed out before , we really have been spoilt in one way over recent (20) years , our win rate must be easily the highest of any RL club probably in the world

Sometimes that can create an expectation above what is reasonable

No pressure ( other than to avoid relegation ) and a season to enjoy , including the more than average nunber of defeats we will suffer