I think until franchising is scrapped or Quins go to the wall Non Relegation League is a closed shop.

Having said that I don't want Quins to fold I just feel their future is uncertain. Mind you I could say the same about a lot of clubs in the Championship.

The applications go in in 23 months time, and to answer your question, No

Quite correct , but is that how we want it to be? , honestly?

I agree frank, but the question is, in which league would our future be most uncertain?

You know we don't want it to be like that, but until they change the funding of the whole game and stop giving TV rights away for nothing, and the SL naming rights away for nothing, it can't work any other way. The only real qualification an applicant must have now is the financial ability to cope with superleague. However with the average SL club losses runninng at 300-400K per season, how on earth can they use financial ability as a criteria.

Would we have ' the financial ability to cope with SL ' ?

In a word.......

What about if we retain the train cup why shouldn't we apply? (Can we afford it is another issue altogether)

We have ' qualified ' to apply already, if we think it's a good idea is another question ? , personally I wouldn't bother, and I'd definatly not want to be used as Fax were just to make the process ' credible '

You need a backer who is prepared to lose 1000s

Per day

I know we already qualify to apply, I was meaning why should we just leave it open to fev, if we are also winning things on the pitch, when in some other areas we appear better?

Is it a good idea to apply? In life everyone should try to be the best they can, if being the best of the second tier is the best we can be then so be it, but it will take some selling to the Leigh public and especially if we want to grow. It's a case of damned if we do damned if we don't.

Just how the RFL like it

Has he?? must have missed that one

Linky please

My money would be on Tolouse TBH, who are not a championship club

Fev qualified last time, but decided not to apply, because 1 ,it was obvious Widnes had been given the nod, 2 if their bid was then to be compared to current SL clubs, they couldn't win

So Fax were convinced by the RFL that their bid would be treated seriously, then it wasn't and a smear campaign was launched against them when they made their feelings public about it

I want us to apply when they cannot refuse

Then you accept being a feeder club and this particular member of the Leigh public has no interest in that what so ever

Tis true ColD.As long as clubs meet the criteria then at least one club has been guarenteed a licence

Very shrewed that. They saved themselves a load of money and headaches. My tip is.

Leigh
Fax
Fev
Sheffield
Something tells me Fev will go off the boil this year. I can feel it in my water.

Its not about accepting anything other than where you currently are, being honest with yourself, and not wanting to do things by half

Its about being asked to join the party, recieving a gilt edged invite delivered by a bloody great big Stobart truck with a picture of Sam Hopkins on the side, and Nigel stepping out of the back of it and begging us to join

Not about sneaking in through the Kitchen and ending up with Salfords battered lorry with a sticker over feka's head

You acceept your feeder club status if you want,i'll not be there

Some will believe anything they are told.

The RFL just move the goalposts when franchising time comes around otherwise tell me what Quins offer to our game for example.

I do not dislike Quins btw but they will probably move into the Olympic Stadium season after next and no doubt Cas will be playing at Wheldon Rd and Wakefield at Belle Vue.

It is a load of bull and aspiring clubs will never be able to increase support unless the pro game returns to promotion and relegation.

Is the any reason why,when you talk about failing clubs,you constantly fail to mention the biggest failing club in the short history of sl

I dont disagree frank, I'd happily take seasonal P and R over anything, 3 year licences dont work for us, far too risky, all IMO of course

Think Fev are due a season of injuries, in recent years they seem to have been reasonably luck, but Leigh, Widnes, Fax and Barrow (when they were good) seem to get a prolonged period of long term injuries.

This might be just my perception, but that's the way it feels to me.

1. Halifax
2. Leigh
3. Featherstone
4. Batley
5. Keighley
6. Sheffield

Keighley the suprise package for me this year, decent following, good coach and 5 or 6 really really top players.

Come on Jonny how can you put Fax above us. I'm never waving to you anymore when I go through Stockport station unless I'm going to a game and you are working.