Apparently he put himself on report.

100% agree Demon. I am not defending our performance. It was sloppy, error ridden and undisciplined. The 2nd half today was ridiculous. We just didn't seem to touch the ball. Think we only got into Fevs half 3 times. Twice won penalties and took the 2, the other time we scored a try.

The number of repeat sets was ludicrous due to constant penalties. We would soak up all the pressure then as soon as we got the ball back we turned it over! Weston's daft offload, Kay's knock on, we just kept giving them the ball back time after time and then having to defend even more.

The pick of the bunch was after defending about 5 straight sets on our line, we finally got the ball back and Child bizarrely pulled us on our own 40 for an incorrect play the ball (out of the other 100 incorrect PTB's in EVERY game?!?!) and we were right back under pressure again for another couple of sets.

We had no right to win that game with a completion rate like we had today. It must have been around 30% in the 2nd half which is pathetic for a full time team, or any team really.

We can still score with relative ease when in good territory. We had far far less chances than Fev today but were pretty clinical near the line. We just never got near the line because we never had the ball.

Today we played some of the dumbest rugby we have played all season. Plus Child hammered us in the penalty count 2nd half as well as putting 2 men in the bin whilst allowing Griffin to attack people all afternoon without consequence.

5/10 performance at best. Must improve for Batley next week!

A serious question:-

How many scrum penalties do any of you remember seeing in recent seasons? (not counting the THREE awarded today!

) Every game I watch that he "controls", (and I use the word loosely) I seem able to remember so much of what he has done, and very little of what the 34 players did.

I thought Fev played well and we did in patches.

James Childs had a very poor game imo.

16 - 10 penalty count in Fevs favour apparently.

However much of a prick Child might be (and he really really is!) 16 penalties is completely unacceptable. Combined with our high error count and 2 men sin binned it is no wonder we struggled. Turned over way too much ball.

Seems odd to say after conceding 24 pts but our defence today (when it really mattered) was superb. Those last 10 minutes with a narrow lead we did nothing but defend set after set after set right on our own line and Fev couldn't find a way over despite hitting us with everything they had. Higson, Maitua and Smith all put in some crucial tackles when it looked for all the world that Fev were going to score.

Every side we play are 'fired up to the hilt' as if they are playing a Super League side....and the Ref's seem to react on 'reputations/last seasons disciplinary record'. We are the top scorers in the division by 58 points, and 7 points clear of 5th place. We can't do worse than last season in the 'middle 8s' so let's just 'wait & see' how it all unfolds....

Well played Fev. Really gave it a go today and were a credit to the town. However, like it or not, you failed to win. Leigh are a resilient team and are difficult to beat and deserve credit for this. Even with players sin binned they held out. Leigh are a work in progress even now, but a fact is that they have only dropped 3 points all season in the Championship. I don't blame our fans for being critical of some of our performances so far, but one thing that has not been lacking in the league is effort. How AJ saved that try when their winger ran clear from the Talapapua break I don't know. Also, first try excepted, our goal line defence worked hard. We shouldn't put ourselves in that position in the first place but credit to Fev, they played well today. A good game today for which both teams deserve credit. However, being a tad biased, I want to say well done Leigh. Resilience was the key today to victory.

Have I stumbled across an objective assessment by mistake?

Did chase get much abuse from the fev contingent ?

Yes!

One fellow just in front of me stuck 12 fingers up at him. Disgraceful stuff.



As a serious answer though, the 1st time he got tackled he was brought to the floor by 2 defenders and then Darrell Griffin came in late, 3rd man, and dropped the knees onto his head as he was lying prone on the floor. Lets just say it didn't look accidental!!

Rangi was spaced out for a few minutes but played on and did well. I expect Griffin will be missing a match or 2 for that one and I would expect that isn't the only offence he will be charged with by Red Hall.

As indignant as the Fev fans were about Gaz Hock today it was one of their own that truly lost the plot this afternoon and I would be stunned if he avoids a ban after his antics today.

A cracking game thoroughly enjoyed by all. I have had some reight stick all week fro my mate gingdong. I thought we'd get Tupped by 50... I was suggesting so to frank and Charlie in the top house.
To play like we did and to be within a shout of actually getting something out of the game just underpins the attitude sharpy has got from his team.... A club on its ar se after Feisal left us and the debacles that were Andy hay and in particular john Bastian.
It'll take some rebuilding but the effort yesterday was heartening even in loss.
Sh it loads better attitude than last year.....
And can I just put on record that charlie and frank Blackburn bought me a drink......






I'm making an assumption that frank's "interest rates" will be applied at leigh!!!!

For something to happen as a result of those "challenges" by Griffin, it looks like either the match officials, or Leigh will have to report them. This is the extract from the RFL's 'On field and Compliance procedures', relating to the citing of Championship players:-

[iIn relation to each round of Championship Matches, League One Matches, League One Cup Matches, Challenge Cup Matches solely involving Championship or League One teams and Matches played in limited age and non-first grade competitions, the Panel meet on the Thursday following the Round of Matches in question and consider any incidents that have been reported by Match Officials or otherwise brought to the attention of the Panel, irrespective of any on field action which may or may not have been taken. [/i

The ref appeared to see little wrong with the incidents, and I don't think the club has a history of citing players, so he could well have got away with the apparent fouls. Had it been a SL game, he would probably have been up on a least three counts!

S.L. refs should stay where they are an leave the championship to our refs.The S.L. refs cant make a decision as they are that used to the video official doing all the work for them

Isnt that at least 3 games that Fev have now lost because of poor discipline? Fax without a doubt, Leigh yesterday by the sounds of it, and then you were still in with a chance against batley until they started giving penalty after penalty away. Maybe a question of fitness?

Ref evened it up yesterday with 6 mins with 11 men and 14 mins with 12, on top of a shocking policing of the ptb and 10m, about 30 penalties and the pace of a snail with a broken foot.
It was like watching a RU game where the ref made it up as he went along to keep the score close

Neil,

I still believe that the SL refs we have had, both this season and last, allow a slower play the ball than we are used to. It doesn't help, when the third tackler arrives, just as everyone else is getting up! There were times when I thought the Fev players had gone to sleep, when the tackle was completed. They certainly had long enough to do so!

The problem there is usually a lack of evidence to support the claim.Majority of official citings in the Championship are dismissed by the panel due to video evidence being inconclusive.

Which brings us to the point Prop made and a very valid one. Mr Childs made/missed decision's yesterday (for both teams) that would have been over-turned by a video ref.

We had one of our own sticking either two or one middle finger up nearly all game at any opposing fan, player or mascot, he was a disgrace and right numpty.



Last week I stated we (and all the other championship teams) are worse than last season whilst SL has got better, I then got a load of what to me was useless facts, like we won, we’re top of the league, etc.

Well those facts still apply and having watched 3 games this week-end two on TV showing the bottom 2 in SL and us top of the Championship live, my opinion hasn’t changed.

Have to concur with glow we would need to up our game by at least 50% to give the SL bottom teams a game

The only way anyone's going up this year:

A SL team loses to all SL opposition, and is so over confident against CH sides they lost to one or two of them too and finish fifth. At least one CH side up without touching the MPG.

There is no other route, cos when it comes to hopes and dreams versus desperately hanging on to your career there's only one winner.

Tackling the thread title in general, I'll reserve judgement till next week.

Batley are on a bit of down slope and we "owe them" so I would hope a convincing win at home.

But I'm still happy with any kind of win.

Bradford seem back in the ascendancy again and London appear to be THE team at the moment but before the Summer Bash roles around there are what I still think will be big tests away at Swinton and Oldham.

But if you carry on the money arguement, if money won everything then Leicester shouldn't be any where near winning the Premier League.

Just been reading the Fev board they thought Childs reffed well. Amazing lol.

They would think that - how many players did they have in the bin, and how many penalties did they concede?

Not me! Never liked him, always awards at least 20 pens a game at super league level.

Fantastic game yesterday, proper advert for the championship, enjoyed the full 80 mins and thought we was going to snatch a draw at the end



Obviously a few people have mentioned incidents which could've spoilt the game, not seen the Griffin incident but if he has done what is supposed to have happened then should end up with a ban or the usual early guilty plea no ban



The biting incident is a wierd one, Whiting claims he was bitten and having known him from school he isn't a liar, yet both rugby league papers have it down as he is on report for dissent

wouldnt you just end up in bin for dissent??

One incident that people haven't mentioned is late in 1st half, Thackeray was wrapped up in tackle and i think it was Hopkins aimed a headbutt at him ( he has been out a few week with a face injury ) i could see it from behind sticks and it was up near the stand you guys were in, anyone see it? Again could end up been cited and banned

Other than that, as said fantastic game and fair play to all you that travelled over, makes a game 10 times better in my eyes when the banter takes over and creates a great atmosphere.

Good luck next week, want you to win for a change

What's more amazing...

Fev fans saying the ref did a good job, abiet their team losing.

Or

Our fans saying he had a shocker, abiet us winning


Now that's wierd