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| Agreed that should get the message loud and clear to all concerned !!!!
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| Quote ="DemonUK"a certain pattern.'"
You mean like it was before the last Leeds signing - [url=http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/leeds-rhinos/hetherington-denies-leeds-rhinos-are-interested-in-briscoe-1-5676743Here[/url
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| Well done Leigh on putting the record straight and stating our position so its crystal clear.
None of our Players are for sale and we are on the move in the right direction
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| Quote ="Tipster Ste"Mish,
I think you know the answer to the question, don't you?'"
I genuinely don't know the answer. I do know that Mike Norris is still Chairman (because he was at the Cenotaph laying the Centurions' wreath this morning) but other than that, nothing is ever mentioned about any of the others.
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| We have a board of directors, one man can't run the club single handed. One of the directors has put more of his own money in, this doesn't mean he could run the club without the support of directors. It is a team effort. If by putting more money in this gives him more of a say, then so be it. The club hasn't been in this strong a position for many years. Derek Beaumont was in charge the last time we got to SL. I for one find his passion for the club to be genuine and can only thank him for his efforts. He has always maintained that he along with the rest of the board are only the custodians of the club and it belongs to the fans. I do dispare at the in fighting among fans and the level of less than subtle questioning of how things are run. It truly is a turn off for any lapsed fans who read this board.
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| Quote ="mish"I genuinely don't know the answer. I do know that Mike Norris is still Chairman (because he was at the Cenotaph laying the Centurions' wreath this morning) but other than that, nothing is ever mentioned about any of the others.'"
Well believe me they are all still there working hard , some like public attention and some don't , I ve not problem with that
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| The Yorkshire Evening Post report that we are threatening to report Leeds over their illegal advances. I am sure the statement says that we are not reporting them. Peter Smith of the Yorkshire Evening post can be reached at @PeterSmithYEP on twitter
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| Speak to Sam Barlow's agent Derek. He did it at Fax and he'll continue to tout his player to SL clubs.
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| Quote ="L3YTH"We have a board of directors, one man can't run the club single handed. One of the directors has put more of his own money in, this doesn't mean he could run the club without the support of directors. It is a team effort. If by putting more money in this gives him more of a say, then so be it. The club hasn't been in this strong a position for many years. Derek Beaumont was in charge the last time we got to SL. I for one find his passion for the club to be genuine and can only thank him for his efforts. He has always maintained that he along with the rest of the board are only the custodians of the club and it belongs to the fans. I do dispare at the in fighting among fans and the level of less than subtle questioning of how things are run. It truly is a turn off for any lapsed fans who read this board.'"
Spot on post
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| Quote ="littlerich"Speak to Sam Barlow's agent Derek. He did it at Fax and he'll continue to tout his player to SL clubs.'"
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| Quote ="littlerich"Speak to Sam Barlow's agent Derek. He did it at Fax and he'll continue to tout his player to SL clubs.'"
Believe me rich, he can tout all he wants now, I've known Dereck for nearly 25 years, and he can be as stubborn and bloody minded as anybody I have ever met, I'd suggest Sam just concentrates on playing RL for the next 12 months at least, because otherwise he WILL be turning out for the reserves
The same applies to Ryan as well, a line has been drawn in the sand
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| And I hope that's the case. All too often players & their agents give their current employers the run around. I know for a fact that Barlow and his agent created havoc for the Fax B.O.D
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| It's a bit premature Mish but Charlie has told me Derek and Gary Hetherington will be boxing next Saturday evening.
Squash him Derek
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| I think that press release went on a bit to be perfectly honest. Just look at the title of it - "Beaumont hailing the start of the full time era?" We don't play our first real match until mid-Feb for goodness sake! Perhaps simply an excuse to make a statement about Brierley and Barlow and million pound offers that don't exist.
Not quite Faisal Nahboohoo territory just yet but I regret the fact that we seem to be going down the one-man band show path for the umpteenth time. It never seems to end well.
And I have no agenda!
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| Quote ="L3YTH"We have a board of directors, one man can't run the club single handed. One of the directors has put more of his own money in, this doesn't mean he could run the club without the support of directors. It is a team effort. If by putting more money in this gives him more of a say, then so be it. The club hasn't been in this strong a position for many years. Derek Beaumont was in charge the last time we got to SL. I for one find his passion for the club to be genuine and can only thank him for his efforts. He has always maintained that he along with the rest of the board are only the custodians of the club and it belongs to the fans. I do dispare at the in fighting among fans and the level of less than subtle questioning of how things are run. It truly is a turn off for any lapsed fans who read this board.'"
Mish does seem to have an agenda imo
What is realism is that the needs of the club have changed massively from when we came together to now, and the club must change how it is run to meet the new reality. People didn't get involved in 2013 for a blazer or a bit of Kudos, they got involved because nobody else was putting their hands up and the club was an inch away from administration after not paying players and an unpaid tax bill creating a winding up order at the High Court
The club today has a clear strategy on how to become the best it can be, and a majority shareholder with ambition and willing to finance the dream. Previous Directors will tell you of the pressures of running your own business whilst committing significant time to LRLFC,ie your own business often suffers or you simply cant give the time needed
In the main the BoM of 2013 where fans, today we are still fans, as we will be tomorrow, next year etc Our primary focus will always be the interests of the club we love and ensuring it is passed on for the next generation to enjoy as we have - no matter what role we play or title we have, personally I prefer 'Fan'
2015 will be brilliant - lets all play our role in its success
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| Quote ="littlerich"Speak to Sam Barlow's agent Derek. He did it at Fax and he'll continue to tout his player to SL clubs.'"
Well he can do it all he like if Sam doesn't put a stop to it Derek won't put up with it for long !!!!
Given how many forwards we now have it will have if rumours and true then if I were Sam if call his agent and tell him to stop it
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| Quote ="mapleyther"I think that press release went on a bit to be perfectly honest. Just look at the title of it - "Beaumont hailing the start of the full time era?" We don't play our first real match until mid-Feb for goodness sake! Perhaps simply an excuse to make a statement about Brierley and Barlow and million pound offers that don't exist.
Not quite Faisal Nahboohoo territory just yet but I regret the fact that we seem to be going down the one-man band show path for the umpteenth time. It never seems to end well.
And I have no agenda!'"
Why is anyone on here bothered if we have one major shareholder or not? Law of averages tell you most sporting clubs have majority shareholders and to be absolutely clear without Derek as the majority shareholder we wouldn't have a cat in hells chance of Super League. The guy is putting in fortunes and with him we have every chance of SL.
It's time for the few on here to bite their tongue or should I say staple their fingers and enjoy the success Derek is providing!
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| Quote ="Tipster Ste"Why is anyone on here bothered if we have one major shareholder or not? Law of averages tell you most sporting clubs have majority shareholders and to be absolutely clear without Derek as the majority shareholder we wouldn't have a cat in hells chance of Super League. The guy is putting in fortunes and with him we have every chance of SL.
It's time for the few on here to bite their tongue or should I say staple their fingers and enjoy the success Derek is providing!'"
I admire Derek for what he is doing and the drive and passion he has for Leigh RL. I have a lot of time for the chap.
My only concern is that he does not walk away again as he has done previously. If he does then we really will be up e creek and we will not even have a boat this time let alone a paddle. No one else will be able to cover the huge financial gap his departure would incur.
In the mean time I will do as you say and enjoy the ride.
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| Look if Derek has now taken full control of the club then so be it. He's done a great job so far and as long we achieve the dream of SL everything should work out fine, if we don't then I'm not so sure.
If he is in control, then great, why not do a press release about it? If not, and the other directors are still involved financially (didn't they all pledge to invest over three years?) then he has a duty when speaking to the press etc to at least acknowledge the presence of the BoM and not speak about the club as though it's his alone. He might be the majority shareholder but if they're still investing their hard earned cash the board deserve some credit too.
I'm not a sheep. I have a mind of my own and because free speech is still legal in this great country of ours I'm entitled to ask questions. Does it matter if I get a reply - of course not, but that doesn't mean I can't raise the issue regardless and if that makes it seem like I have an agenda then fair enough, I suppose I do.
For what it's worth, I think issuing that statement is a big mistake. The title says one thing but the content is something completely different. If Hetherington made illegal approaches to our players then Derek should have dealt with it privately, even if that meant going through the RFL, and also, it's now obvious to all that there have been some problems with the players and their contracts - does that really need to be the subject of an official press statement? I think not.
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| Well said, hopefully will put an end to all the nonsense rumours, although we all know it'll only be a matter of time before someone else's drinking buddy's friend’s uncle's son over heard someone say that Ryan was now signed for [draw random club name out of a hat. Hope Derrick means what he says about Hetherington being on his last chance, I know we don't want to be making enemies but you can't let people continually flout the RFL rules & unsettle our team.
I've no problem with the use of 1st person in the statement; Derrick is Director of rugby & so would be dealing with these negotiations himself.
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| I think a simple statement would have sufficed
" Contrary to recent speculation linking Ryan with another club, I have spoken personally to Ryan who has never expressed any interest to join another club and is currently fully commited to playing his part in helping Leigh RL attain its goal of SL during the remainder of his recently signed 3 year contract"
That would do.
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| Quote ="mish"Look if Derek has now taken full control of the club then so be it. He's done a great job so far and as long we achieve the dream of SL everything should work out fine, if we don't then I'm not so sure.
If he is in control, then great, why not do a press release about it? If not, and the other directors are still involved financially (didn't they all pledge to invest over three years?) then he has a duty when speaking to the press etc to at least acknowledge the presence of the BoM and not speak about the club as though it's his alone. He might be the majority shareholder but if they're still investing their hard earned cash the board deserve some credit too.
I'm not a sheep. I have a mind of my own and because free speech is still legal in this great country of ours I'm entitled to ask questions. Does it matter if I get a reply - of course not, but that doesn't mean I can't raise the issue regardless and if that makes it seem like I have an agenda then fair enough, I suppose I do.
For what it's worth, I think issuing that statement is a big mistake. The title says one thing but the content is something completely different. If Hetherington made illegal approaches to our players then Derek should have dealt with it privately, even if that meant going through the RFL, and also, it's now obvious to all that there have been some problems with the players and their contracts - does that really need to be the subject of an official press statement? I think not.'"
I am still investing(giving) my hard earned Mish as it was a 3 year/payment commitment, yet I nor any of us felt a need to question this release, which was not the first time you had raised this ownership/derek issue.
Do you have a Derek issue Mish? Derek is not a man to leave us in pooh should he ever have a need to relinquish control and who knows what the future brings Euro Lottery win for Frank, Mandy K or Marwan realising Leigh is closer to home
Enjoy where we are, look at the glass as half full and look forward to a great 2015 ahead of us
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| I don't know Derek personally, but from what I've seen he is fully committed to the club. I accept he is a big personality, some people don't like that, some people do, but as I said the PR knockers, I'm prepared to give him a chance, and rather than attack or be negative I prefer to offer my support. So far, since Derek & others involvement, we have been financially stable, we have won 2 trophies, lost only 2 games in an entire season and as of today gone full time as a team.
Have we done everything right, probably not, but then again who is perfect? Will we get things wrong in the future, almost certainly, but, and this is key for me, we seem to heading in the right direction and I don't know any organisation that gets to its goal without a few bumps in the road.
So I shall continue to follow our progress with great interest and keep supporting whoever is at the helm as I trust they want the same success for our club as I do.
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