No disrespect to Dewsbury but with one of the poorest on feild teams in this league being reinstated if we survive this money crisis & play next season it helps us in terms of not being relegation hopefully with one of the stronger clubs in the championship being rightly relegated

It annoys me that a team gets penalised for showing ambition. Ok, so Des broke every rule going, but those rules are there to keep the Championship clubs down, and as in the case of Leigh and others, with no prospects of promotion then crowds and income go down and your club goes into liquidation.

The RFL say the rules are to stop clubs going bust searching for glory. That's their view. My view is that with no prospect of promotion clubs go bust anyway and then the SL clubs have a bigger catchment area for new players and supporters. It has all been engineered by SKY and the RFL.

That's why I am cancelling my full SKY package and why I have also stopped watching Rugby League after 50 years. It's a complete joke now, but I do think that it will spread like wildfire in London and Wales.

well i am sorry, they broke the rules, they pay tyhe price, i love going to dewsbury, the ale is great at the station, so i am pleassed, as for des, he is a nutter and a control freak, when are clubs going to learn, having one man with the money, inevitably especially at our level leads to problems.

Well it will certainly please Dewsbury's bad loser coach ,all he could say after they lost was " we played 14 men "after every question

You reckon? It's taking a heck of a long time to do that.

Genius. Really.

Obviously not a true rugby fan Bluethunder

What a dimwitted excuse for a human you must be Bluethunder! Every rugby fan should be pulling together to make sure that this game that we love still exists outside of SL! People like you are not welcome in rugby or on this board! We Leigh fans are willing to do whatever it takes to ensure our clubs survival and thusly ram your unwanted and unwarrented comments down your throat! What a complete and utter waste of oxygen you clearly are!

Don't quote idiots guys it makes it much harder to obliterate their ramblings.

Bluethunder is having another go at us and barrow on the barrow mb. Tool!

Well he won't be on here for a long long while and I'm awaiting my abusive PM and then he wont be on any of these boards for ever.

Just another thought on the Barrow situation, doesn't this prove that the current rules ie salary cap and no p&r, is stifling clubs who can afford to bring in players if they have the backing. Whatever you may think of Des Johnston, he put his money where his mouth is and was obviously an ambitious guy who wanted to see his club win things. I know the rules were brought in to level things up and stop clubs overspending but even with the rules in place clubs still get into financial problems.

Would the rfl have given Barrow special dispensation to pay bigger wages if DJ had asked them?

It would appear one of the main problems/gripes is paying out travel expenses and it counting in the Salary Cap.

The salary cap is to allow the likes of Batley/Dewsbury/Sheffield etc who have few fans to compete with ambitious clubs who have fans. It exists in tandem with no P&R under the guise of 'protecting' clubs from themselves, otherwise translated as 'we will strangle you by stopping a benefactor pumping money in because you cant win promotion'.

A 29 point deduction and an 8 year ban suggest that this goes beyond a couple of mileage claims.

Ah - like Arthur did at Leigh.



I see it all now.

Dearie me today.

You have missed the point completely

I think he was the founder of the Gateshead 6. Unlike the others he is probably out on licensce and receiving drugs to hopefully solve his issues. Poor soul.

And the point was ........... ?

Will Barrow effectively be lost to RL because of this or is there a consortium waiting in the wings ?

I believe the Barrow club will survive and should look to what is going on here or at Rochdale if they've any sense.

Of course they will. They'll just take a step backwards for a few seasons.

Just a thought, but couldn't they employ Cumbrian players and staff - thus eliminating the need to pay travelling expenses??



You never know - it might just catch on!!

Well, Barrow's not in Cumbria ... wouldn't they be better employing Lancashire players ?

In all seriousness, that's a great idea if the right players live in your area.