There are people who try very hard to get a job and then there are those that have no intention whatsoever of going to work and its these people who need a very large and very hard kick up the ar@e ,too many folk know how to cheat their way onto incapacity benefit so kick um off it i say ,if they are fit for work ,its amazing how the walking stick comes out when they are getting a revue ,its all too easy to kid

According to her.... Be careful of making libellous statements Lally.

I'm no Tory (or Lib Dem either), but so far I am liking what they are trying to do so far tbh.

Good on em. Get after the lazy scrotes that play the system.

I know a few who claim disability benefit and there`s nowt wrong with em......why should these people get extra money and sit on their backsides while others have to work, the people who are claiming the top benefits (fraudulently) are usually better off than people who work their knackers off for a living.
Catch em and make em repay all the extra money they have had over the years I say.

Well contact the relevant agency and let them investigate their claims.

But they're supposed to be bringing in a universal credit for benefits, so surely it could come under that.

the guy next to me has not worked in TWENTY years, claims disability, yet has built an extension on to his house, a brick garage and a wooden shed.....all done with his own bare hands.

he does his main shop in the local newsagent, paying over the odds for everything, including his 200 ciggies a week.

the locals despise him, have grassed him up many times, yet he's still extracting the xxxx, and his son has just left school, and knows all the dodges already

Exactly the same view as myself. At least they are listening to what people want from the government.
I was spitting blood a couple of years back when I was in Quality Save and I heard two scrotes with a million kids each talking and one said to the other 'I can't wait for my child beefits this month, i've got my tax and insurance for the Land Rover up this month and I will be able to go out at the weekend'.

yawn!! yawn!! yawn!! yawn!! yawn!!

tha not as ill or as old as me though

buy a smaller car

I would be somewhat more convinced if they pledged a two-pronged attack. As well as cutting benefits for the work-shy, they made as much effort at clawing back some of the £120 Billion that the Revenue is not getting from those who (legally or illegally) avoid paying income tax...... but as this practice is inextricably linked with Tory party funding I won't be holding my breath!!

Higher rated PAYE will be fleeced next year, so its not just a one way street. Self employed will hopefully have loop holes removed soon but the simple facts are the last government was not interested in nailing the scroungers who play the system (the latest one is getting their kids diagnosed with behaviour illness) or the immigration problem.
We cannot afford the drain of the public spend levels, lets hope they hit the rogues and not the genuine needy. We have created a section of society who dont understand work ethics, this government MUST change that by making that section of society get out what they put in, because that section breed more than the grafters which gives a far bigger problem in years to come if not tackled now.

I didn`t think being a whinging pain up the arris was an illness but if you say so.

You're quite right, I've seen them disableds, scroungers and your single parents, in a pub together...plotting the downfall of international capitalism they were, the barstewards. In fact, it was them that forced the banks to spend hundreds of billions they didn't have then get it off us. Yep, they have a lot to answer for.

Totally agree Billie. To quote Jeremy Kyle "Why don't they get off their idle backsides,stop using social networking sites, put something on the end of it and stop producing kids that we all have to pay for and get a job"

ah harrishawk I see you are back out from under your stone you pathetic no hoper

I’m not against people getting benefits in fact my Father became crippled with arthritis and my Mum had to give up work to care for him, up to his death. But we have had lads working for us via the Shaw Trust with the aim of getting them back to work, some have been great lads, but when we’ve offered them a Full time job some can’t ‘afford’ to work, one lad was getting approx the equivalent of £600 per week. Something needs to change when people are capable of working but simply don’t because they are better off.

is that including his rent and council tax rebate/payment?

Does it matter, low income gets family credits. Take take home £600 a working man needs to earn £900. It should never be more rewarding not to work.
Benefits are designed to help those in need in bad times, I often see kids going without as parents drink,smoke and live on take aways. Benefits should mean diet is provided, clothes are provided, shelter etc we must stop paying them in cash when they choose not to work.

100% agree with this, they should be given vouchers for clothing & food etc so they can't go and get there flat screen TV's and booze!

We never went into the details but probably and although I don't know in this particular lads circumstances, it's possible that if he worked he'd have to pay CSA and/or court fines, and probably doesn't if on benefits, so to them thats seen as money saved.

But as Mo said the point is those who are capable of working but don't, shouldn't be better off than those who do actually work.

Not long ago I would have frowned at such comments. Nowadays I would agree with this. We should always have a safety net for people that hit hard times, and they should be helped as much as possible to get by and look for work. There is something wrong with the system when the excuse is "I am better off not working" money wise.

Also a footnote - That Union backed new leader of the Labour party will ensure I won't be voting for them again.