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| Quote ="ste_ody"agree 100% maden has been the most improved player this year IMO! he's having a great season!'"
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| No one blamed the RFL and had a dig at Dick (ho ho) Lewis yet? You're all slacking..
If it's true that they've been paying over the top wages, then they've no one to blame but themselves. You can't keep throwing money at a bottomless pit, I've said that for years. It's always sad to see a club fail, but I'd rather a club folded than kept limping along, dragging an impossible to clear debt behind it.
With a bit of luck someone in Blackpool will keep the club alive, but a fresh start is the only realistic option.
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| Quote ="glow"You are joking Maden, have you actually seen him play this season, he's been a major improvement, cut out the silly penalties, and would be one of the first names on the team sheet on current performance. Well done Steve keep it up!
As for Blackpool it's never good to see any club in difficulties, Good Luck to them.'"
Yes i have seen Maden this season and finally the lad has got himself into shape and started earning his corn and has looked good under the high ball and eager to take workload on near our own line.
That said he lacks the genuine pace of Ballard who is top end Championship Winger as he proved at Celtic and scores trys from short and long range and never lets anyone down with his defence.
Thats why i asked the question with Blackpool set to disolve would he be worth a punt till end of season and with the injury to Robbie Hemmingway as he did last year could offer decent cover at both 6 and 7 with a good kicking game to boot.
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| Quote ="wbk666"i'd give that to riddy'"
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Lads been fantastic this season.
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| Quote ="Leyther_till_death"If we want any winger back (on form) and not suggesting we should, it should be Munro, he's been on fire!'"
Scoring for fun in a poor league with good players around him.
Lets not remember the lads main weakness his defence.
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| From what I have been told they are a victim of their own success.
They did not budget to win so many games ,but why are people slagging in them off .
We should as a sport rally round them how much money have the RFL pumped into the QUINS ,CRUSADERS AND THE FROGS to keep them going.
Blackpool have a lot of local lads in their squad and giving coaching opportunities to local English lads to.
So instead of acting like a pack of Vultures lets look at the bigger picture they are a Lancashire club so lets support them not kick them in the teeth when they are down.
I thought Leythers where Rugby Lovers
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| I can only see one real 'slagging off' post Mick and thats from a self confessed 'Super league is great' person, What I did say in a previous post somewhere on here was that once their chairman (now ex) got involved then expect trouble, something which is proved true.
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| Not at a pop at you Fred just think some people are to quick to jump on the bandwagon sometimes.
John Chadwick their chair seems a decent bloke and loves rugby , as most of you know we have our kids finals at Fylde and this year we had a double booking with the Panthers down to play Doncaster the same day as our finals.
John phoned me and we had a good chat and the result being the Panthers re-arranged their game for a Friday night how many pro clubs would have done that for the amateurs not many trust me.
My point is the RFL should step in and help Blackpool not let them go under ,they have a squad of good honest lads quite a few originating from Leigh and they deserve some support surely ?
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| Quote ="FTrooper"From what I have been told they are a victim of their own success.
They did not budget to win so many games ,but why are people slagging in them off .
We should as a sport rally round them how much money have the RFL pumped into the QUINS ,CRUSADERS AND THE FROGS to keep them going.
Blackpool have a lot of local lads in their squad and giving coaching opportunities to local English lads to.
So instead of acting like a pack of Vultures lets look at the bigger picture they are a Lancashire club so lets support them not kick them in the teeth when they are down.
I thought Leythers where Rugby Lovers
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I guess that's in terms of offering big win bonuses?
It's a huge shame for any club to be in trouble but again it's the only spend what you can afford... Widnes felt this trying to get into SL 2007 (Tbh I think Fax are doing the same a bit). My only issue as mentioned is the RFL will bail out SL sides who overspend (with more money) yet not lower league sides, should be strict set rules and a big review each season of the salary cap which in principle 40% turnover seems ok!
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| No I know you werent Mick (for once )
I totally agree they spout on about expansionism and all's I see is clubs out of Soooooper league going to the wall, it may well be the fault of BoD's and Chairmen but at the end of the day whilst there may not be many speccies at Blackpool its they who suffer.
This may be harsh but until ALL Championship and Ch 1 chairmen get together and agree to work together for the common good of RL then this will still keep happening over and over and there but for the grace of 'im upsteers' there go all of us.
They could do with having a word with Starbug he may be a bad tempered crotchetty old so and so but he does have a few good ideas that would benefit not only the semi pro's but the amateur clubs as well.
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| Quote ="mr. chairman"former oldham chairman bill quinn is interested in taking over , also owen oyston name as been mentioned, all the lads are free agents'"
Do the Oystons still bankroll the football team?
For me Blackpool is an obvious fit for summer rugby - just need somone with a bit of vision, and a few bob to back them, to get the folk of Blackpool to realise that too!! If they approched it the right way, they could be easily getting 4 figure crowds, with weekend packages for away supporters, and season ticket deals tied into the football team.
And the other no brainer - they've got to try and keep hold of Martin Crompton!!
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| has Gary followed him Keith?
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| Quote ="mr. chairman"former oldham chairman bill quinn is interested in taking over , also owen oyston name as been mentioned, all the lads are free agents'"
Frying pan and fire spring to mind with he who went before and those two
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| [(Tbh I think Fax are doing the same a bit).
Err Leigh not doing same?? Suppose a coach like Millward is doing it for the love of the club...and Wobbie ??
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| When did Widnes sign Millward and Robbie Paul?
J20 happens to be a Chemic, now the phrase to be used by you is 'sorry I apologise'
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| Quote ="FredParky"When did Widnes sign Millward and Robbie Paul?
J20 happens to be a Chemic, now the phrase to be used by you is 'sorry I apologise''"
Doh.. my excuse - watched a few minutes of that rubbish between France and Uruguay last night, and look what it did to to me. Should ave gone staright to bed instead.
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| What ever happened to the other half of the Bobby Hope dream team that nearly ended our existance?
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| Thats OK my friend I for one appreciate the apology.
I have too many dead brain cells already to start watching wendy ball at my advancing age I would be on a minus number by the end of July
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| Quote ="FTrooper"From what I have been told they are a victim of their own success.
They did not budget to win so many games ,but why are people slagging in them off .
We should as a sport rally round them how much money have the RFL pumped into the QUINS ,CRUSADERS AND THE FROGS to keep them going.
Blackpool have a lot of local lads in their squad and giving coaching opportunities to local English lads to.
So instead of acting like a pack of Vultures lets look at the bigger picture they are a Lancashire club so lets support them not kick them in the teeth when they are down.
I thought Leythers where Rugby Lovers
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Do you want to point out to any time in - say - the last 10 years where the RFL have 'pumped money' into any of the clubs you've mentioned. Without going 'everyone knows' etc. You can't, because it's not happened.
I'm assuming the 'self confessed SL lover' Fred refers to is me... get your facts right Fred, I've no huge love of SL, but I'd rather be inside looking out, than outside looking in. Your posts on that subject invariably taste of sour grapes. Glass half empty I assume?
I thought RL lovers were progressive. Obviously they're not.
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| ballard was fantastic for us last season at fullback and on the wing
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| Quote ="Scooter Nik"Do you want to point out to any time in - say - the last 10 years where the RFL have 'pumped money' into any of the clubs you've mentioned. Without going 'everyone knows' etc. You can't, because it's not happened.
I'm assuming the 'self confessed SL lover' Fred refers to is me... get your facts right Fred, I've no huge love of SL, but I'd rather be inside looking out, than outside looking in. Your posts on that subject invariably taste of sour grapes. Glass half empty I assume?
I thought RL lovers were progressive. Obviously they're not.'"
What planet are you on the Rfl bailed out the London SL franchise and didn't dock them any points.
Catalan receive a lot of lets say favours from SL /RFL.
And what about CRUSADERS are you saying they have received no out of pocket funding ?
And what about the illegal signings ?
I,ll ask you a direct question do you think Blackpool Panthers should be allowed to go under at the expense say of another french inclusion into SL ?
The RFL have a fantastic opportunity to piggy back on the succsess of the other game to expand the game on the Fylde coast not kill it .
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| Your wrong Nik I have never wanted SL at Leigh until we are ready, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't take it if we deserved to be there, and at the moment we are as good as chance/bet as any other, and whilst guaranteed 3 years in it does give time to consolidate.
So as anyone on here who actually bothers to read my popsta on the subject will tell you how can it be sour grapes when last time I called for us to 'take the money and run' instead of a season that I said would tear the heart out of the club, and very nearly did.
half empty glass? No for theres nothing in it worth drinking.
Now answer these questions 1. Why do the RFL not sanction Harlequins (and I suppose Wigan but one can hardly blame them) when the Wigan CEO is allowed to have a controlling interest in both clubs, clearly against RFL rules and when they were warned two years ago, and 2. Why are Crusaders or why were they allowed to be run by TWO controlling companies during the close season again clearly against RFL rules, and 3. Why no 'punishment' from the RFL to The original welsh team for fielding illegal players for THREE years. 4. Why were the RFL allowed to alter the funding 'rules' AFTER the inclusion of Toulouse.
Are you that far removed from RL reality to know that what is happening at Blackpool could happen to 99% of all Championship and Champioship 1 clubs not to mention 75% (if not 100%) of SL clubs.
No Biase in Rugby League, get real.
So who is to blame? the blame lies squarely at all the member clubs in the RFL in putting up with all the carp coming out of red hall, but they are scared of getting together in case they get labelled 'trouble makers' and the holy grail of SL is snatched from their grasp.
The RFL as an organisation are doing some great work especially at the ground level, but that begs the question WHY when there is already an organisation in place to do that, BARLA, but that is a completely different can (more like a barrel) of worms that will be opened in the not too distant future I fear.
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| There's a one word, simple answer to all your questions Fred and that's SKY. Red Hall will do anything SKY ask.
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