Walsh wouldn't have done much more for us behind our pack and with our back line outside him.

Hopkins as been offered a contract but yet to accept so don't be surprised if he finds a new club hope he don't as I like him as a player

Quote ="Jboyleigh"[uOUTS[/u [size=85 . . . Fleming (assume loan period ended)[/size'" Matty Fleming has been signed by London Broncos in a two-year deal. https://londonbroncosrl.com/news/bronco ... ue-talent/

Quote ="Jboyleigh"[uOUTS[/u [size=85 . . . Fleming (assume loan period ended)[/size'" Matty Fleming has been signed by London Broncos in a two-year deal. https://londonbroncosrl.com/news/bronco ... ue-talent/

Still think Walsh or Riddy for that matter take a team round the pitch, Drinkwater doesn't. Its all simple 1 man rugby, but a proper stand off will pull players around, take it to the line for an offload, organise the backline etc. Rugby players aren't the smartest bunch sometimes, so you need a clever man who can see the game a bit like chess, playing 2-3 moves ahead in his head.

I see you're new here, So welcome to the board. You seem to have a wealth of knowledge on the game, and Leigh centurions. Anyway, I agree with your post here,well said.

Only if the players around him are on the same wave length

Completely disagree with you there... Drinkwater played to a structure imo.. We need someone too take on the line.. All Catalans did was stack it up the middle and then slide following the ball... We need someone who can take on the line with pace too stop that slide or else no matter what pack you have you aren't gonna beat anyone up the middle

You see to have learnt from your poor recruitment last year and thinking more long term, think you could have a better team next year than last year.

According to the daily fail we haven't learnt from Leigh and are signing 3 of them...

Not been offered a contract fact!!! he sigend a three year contract a few months ago???.

I'm seeing Drinkwater critised after comparison to Riddy, Walsh etc. Drinkwater is not a stand off. He's a true scrum half who has played with a different halfback partner almost weekly. To compare him to Walsh in the final game is confusing to me. Walsh played the second half behind a dominant pack with a strong back line outside him. Drinkwater was overrun time and time again behind an exhausted, beaten pack, and was forced into making endless tackles.
In many games last season he put his body on the line to give the receiver an extra moment of space, by delaying a pass to the last split second, and taking a crunching tackle.
With a regular strong halfback partner and a strong pack in front of him, he's a keeper for me.

I am very interested in who is In/out but I am on the same page as you NSL. I will read opinions and in the know post with interest but will wait for confirmed info from the club or other clubs (as in the Fleming) before I get too excited or upset.
=#40BF00That's said I do think Harold Knows (sorry Charlie

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Good job he was wrong on Hardaker..

You could see frustration in Drinkwater in many games. In most games the line came to him and he mastered that with some wonderful passes out wide. If you're going hit the line (or take the hit) you need to know there's someone there.

I’m glad drinkwater gone he had the heart the size of a pea we need players who are willing to take the ball forward and will take a shot to create a gap

No problem VL , I always listen when HRJNR speaks, Harold knows.

Cheers, the auld man brought me up with the right education!

What I watched (especially the 2nd half) was Walsh pushing players into position, he moved himself to 2nd receiver and then you had him and the scrum half in the backline. They probed with 2 dummy runners and nearly got it through to Horo. Few plays later they ran the same move, but this time Fleming worried he was about to get beaten on the inside by the pass to Horo got stuck in no-mans land and they got the 2 on 1 and scored. That for me was all down to Walsh organising the play, moving to 2nd receiver he could pass quickly and set off what was clearly an organised move.

Yes Cats play a lot of straight down the middle rugby, but when they wanted to they executed very slick passing moves and scored for the most part. Walsh was at the forefront of everything good they did going forward.

I just dont think Drinkwater is good enough personally, you can look at an aging pack, you can look at the guys outside him not being good enough, you can say he isnt being given the structure from the coaches, but ultimately we looked devoid of any sort of direction going forward, it was all the same play over and over. Stick Riddy in vs Cats I think the team overall performs better.

Riddy was the fella who stuck his hand up with broken ribs when we where stuggling in Championship,he is Leigh through and through. But we cant afford to have players who spit their dummies out going forward as have others.
So for that reason alone,his spot should be taken,regardless of who takes that spot.

That's not my understanding of what went on between Jukes and Riddy, but its not something I'd publically post.

I'm referring to a previous occasion,which Riddy publically acknowledges. I'm not one for posting hearsay.

Don't know what happened with riddy but he looked a better player at hudds than he did at leigh this year. I reckon drinkwater would've looked better as well. He showed what he could do when he had maitua, worthington/tonga outside him. He's also 5 years younger than Luke Walsh.

Can a mod please tell me who added the Hardaker comment to my post. I did not write that and it should not be added to my post. I do not appreciate someone changing my post.

Yes VL,a mistake was made. You where sent a PM when it was picked up on. Mistakes happen,apologies.

Why do mods feel the need to edit other people's posts.

That needs addressing

It's in the rules you signed up to when you joined
It's used mainly to remove libel comments