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| Why did leigh appeal
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| Quote ="MR FRISK"Why did leigh appeal
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Would Jamie having not played for 3 months be fit ?
He'd be coming back into the last 1/2 games , both most probably highly charged pressure games , is that a good idea with him trying to make amends for getting banned ? , he'd be trying too hard and that could be counter productive
So not much to lose
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| Quote ="THECherry&Whites"The tribunal increased the sentence due to the fact the appeal was a joke. They have done this before when clubs have appealed against an open and shut case. Why we appealed is beyond me when we knew that it was almost guaranteed the sentence would get increased.'"
Using this thought process as a premise for not appealing appears somewhat flawed IMHO.
Looking at 'criminal law' cases where a for example a person or persons have been wrongly imprisoned & using this reasoning that a sentence would be "almost guaranteed the sentence would be increased", why would any innocent person ever appeal ?
I am not suggesting Jamie is innocent, more that the original & subsequent increased punishment does not fit the crime !
I also ask, how independent is this panel, who pays their salaries & how much 'influence' over them might the RFL have ?
This is something I would like to see put before CAS (Court of Arbitration for Sport) but it won't happen.
Seems to me the sport has a cancer & it needs cutting out !
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| he should move to the nrl,they still play rugby down under.we will be playing in hi-vis soon.i personally would not pay one penny of any fine.
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"Using this thought process as a premise for not appealing appears somewhat flawed IMHO.
Looking at 'criminal law' cases where a for example a person or persons have been wrongly imprisoned & using this reasoning that a sentence would be "almost guaranteed the sentence would be increased", why would any innocent person ever appeal ?
I am not suggesting Jamie is innocent, more that the original & subsequent increased punishment does not fit the crime !
I also ask, how independent is this panel, who pays their salaries & how much 'influence' over them might the RFL have ?
This is something I would like to see put before CAS (Court of Arbitration for Sport) but it won't happen.
Seems to me the sport has a cancer & it needs cutting out !'"
I agree with Ste100 centurions. We need more transparency about the choice of these independent panels. Is it just co incidence that one member was an ex Hull KR player and the other an ex chairman of the same club? Haven't these two members of the panel a vested interest in the case?
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| I don't know about a vested interested, if you think about it,, it's a big bonus for Leigh if Acton isn't playing, he is a total liability and could get sent off for some of the things he does, at least if you play someone who plays hard but fair, he may play the full duration hahah
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| Quote ="doc999"Ive just seen the video and cant see what he's actually done wrong its a physical game , to me its no different than 2 players squaring up , its nit like there was intent to cause harm , bit careless yes[u but nothin I havent seen a thousand times.[/u'"
You say you're smart enough to support Leigh but you might as be supporting Wigan with an attitude like that. The 'bit careless' is extremely comical.
And I really doubt that you would see anything like it in last nights game
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| Quote ="Willy"I agree with Ste100 centurions. We need more transparency about the choice of these independent panels. Is it just co incidence that one member was an ex Hull KR player and the other an ex chairman of the same club? Haven't these two members of the panel a vested interest in the case?'"
Trust me Barry Lilley would do us no favours, no love lost there over the years.
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| Quote ="barham red"Trust me Barry Lilley would do us no favours, no love lost there over the years.'"
Well he's not done Leigh any either, has he? The $h!t house.
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| Unbelievable some of the stuff written on here !!!!
This sport does not need people who think this kind of behaviour is ok !!!!
Some of you lot need to take a long hard look at what your saying, the decent guys on here who understand what the problem is are probably cringing and hiding in embarrassment at you !!
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| Quote ="THECherry&Whites"You appeal if you have new evidence that prooves the original decision was incorrect. Every suspension we've had this season was correct. The only people who have been saying we need to appeal the decisions are those who have been using their cherry & white hearts rather than their rational heads!'"
The severity of this Ban is outrageous, I just wish with hindsight that Jamie had bent down and told Bird, get up you Coward so I can knock you down again
Anyone who believes Bird was other than playing Dead is deluded, I watched it back again last night and I have never seen a Concussed/Unconscious player looking so well leave a field!!
Cant wait to see the Cats game in the 8s, I don't think he'll be hitting Hock late.
Message for Bird, Bu@@er off back to the NRL and take your antics with you!
Message for Jamie, you are letting your Passion distract you, I'm sorry our Legal team have been defeated on your behalf because, no matter what anyone says your 'crimes' do not fit your punishments! Use your rest to help your teammates and consider, how you can improve your on field behaviour because IMO you are the best young Prop in Britain!
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| Quote ="Cokey"Just a thought, If this occurred on the last game of the 8s, Would they have given him 4 months then?
BTW - I would keep him.'" Flower got six following the Grand Final, the majority of which was served in the off season. Flower's victim is now effectively serving a lifetime ban as a result of the incident. No comparison. Bird was definitely playing possum and anybody unable to see that must be part of a crappy am-dram society. Shame on the whole system.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"Unbelievable some of the stuff written on here !!!!
This sport does not need people who think this kind of behaviour is ok !!!!
Some of you lot need to take a long hard look at what your saying, the decent guys on here who understand what the problem is are probably cringing and hiding in embarrassment at you !!'"
DAZ, **** *** back to your own board, we don't need you on here.
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| Quote ="Cokey"Well he's not done Leigh any either, has he? The $h!t house.
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Neither has Acton with yet another spell in the stands at the business end of SL survival
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| Quote ="RoyBoy29"Neither has Acton with yet another spell in the stands at the business end of SL survival'"
I'm not happy one bit with his antics, but the level of punishment is absolutely ridiculous.
Anyway he missed the last 5 of the M8s last season and we qualified,We'll just have to do it again.
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| So, on the flipside...
Why don't we just get shut
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| Quote ="RoyBoy29"So, on the flipside...
Why don't we just get shut'"
Well the club are not getting shut,and that's the right decision in my view.
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| INhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9lKI14yXv4OUT
I really dont think its that bad
compare it to any of these its laughable
INhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h_vvCWVxx4OUT
place for it in sport , no ! even if the ref saw that up close and personal i dont think he would have got a sin bining never mind a ban !
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| Quote ="Cokey"Well the club are not getting shut,and that's the right decision in my view.'"
As long as we are ok with having a player who spends most of the time banned through indiscipline and coaching staff who can't control him....
Then fair do's
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| Jamie needs to Learn and he could have done with decent coaching and discipline.
All teams have an 'Enforcer' in their ranks but most play the game hard, fair and with a bit of Sledging / Niggle. Jamie has yet to Master this and he has alot to Learn.
To be honest, Its probably a good thing he isnt playing again this season. We cannot afford to lose players in vital games because all seven matches can be definitely won and lost !!
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| Quote ="Snowy"Jamie needs to Learn and he could have done with decent coaching and discipline.
All teams have an 'Enforcer' in their ranks but most play the game hard, fair and with a bit of Sledging / Niggle. Jamie has yet to Master this and he has alot to Learn.
To be honest, Its probably a good thing he isnt playing again this season. We cannot afford to lose players in vital games because all seven matches can be definitely won and lost !!'"
Agree , im sure he'll come back a better player for this got a long time to think about things
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| Quote ="Snowy"Jamie needs to Learn and he could have done with decent coaching and discipline.
All teams have an 'Enforcer' in their ranks but most play the game hard, fair and with a bit of Sledging / Niggle. Jamie has yet to Master this and he has alot to Learn.
To be honest, Its probably a good thing he isnt playing again this season. We cannot afford to lose players in vital games because all seven matches can be definitely won and lost !!'"
But we don't [ulose him [/u in games, its this bl@@dy Review Panel that nails him
I'm sick of watching Ashton Sims every match he's brawling with opponents and, he never gets long bans etc...
Interesting watching Bird on Saturday against Cas, he was flattened from behind and went face down with his Arms stretched out , he quickly 'came round' though, he must have thought I cant pull that one again
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| Quote ="kirkhall"But we don't [ulose him [/u in games, its this bl@@dy Review Panel that nails him
I'm sick of watching Ashton Sims every match he's brawling with opponents and, he never gets long bans etc...
Interesting watching Bird on Saturday against Cas, he was flattened from behind and went face down with his Arms stretched out , he quickly 'came round' though, he must have thought I cant pull that one again
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I know what you are saying and i agree with you.
Some players take it to the limit without taking it further. I would gladly pay double to watch Ashton Sims get snotted.
Peacock took the biscuit, but no one can disagree that he was one hard barsteward. Again, sledged to high heaven but always kept under the radar !!
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| His knock on with 90 seconds to go at Catalans ultimately cost us 10th place and an extra home game. Another example of him just not doing playing particularly smart. Like against Wigan, he could've just held the player back rather than tripping him. Wouldn't have been banned for that. As for Bird, may as well have waited for him to get up, then chinned him.
He's still got plenty to learn, but I don't think its a coincidence that we looked more composed, less erratic without him or Higson in the side. Albeit in a game with less intensity about it than what I would expect is coming
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