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| Quote ="Sensei-Bull"He only got suspended today and already he's crap. Contradicts the numerous posts on the Bulls forum from your fans telling us how he's better than Gaskell.'"
Most of this Leigh lot do seem a bit "special".
Must be something to do with having no public transport links.
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| A very open statement.
Makes Ryan to look like a very greedy person grabbing as much cash as he can.
Talking of going to Bradford won't endear him to anyone who has followed Leigh for so long and been happy to support Ryan after Cas got shut of him.
A very sorry end to what was a promising Leigh career after being booted out of Cas.
I suppose the deal will be now to see how much can be got for him if the 4 week quitting notice isn't lodged with the RFL in the contracts they get and also ensure Bradford haven't done anything untoward.
If Ryans 4 week notice is correct then get shut asap.
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| You are all clearly too eager to believe Beaumont that you would read a statement like that and believe it! Last week he was off to Canada, now it is the Bulls. He is talking absolute rubbish to try and paper over the cracks that he himself has caused in your squad. He really never fails to deliver does old Derek! Who better to blame than the league rivals?
If turns out to be true and I were Ryan Brierley I would be suing the club for slander/libel for making him look greedy and disloyal by publishing an admitted private conversation.
How are any of your players supposed to talk to your coach in private if they now know that it will be made public at Beaumonts desire!
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| Quote ="Sensei-Bull"Or perhaps Ryan got fed up when his pal Rowley left and got his agent to ask Bradford if they were still looking for a scrum half?'"
Irrelevant. Before the May deadline any contact with a contracted player has to go through the parent club first.
Seeing as Derek and the board found out through Neil Jukes who only found out off Brierley after the offer had already been made, I am guessing this procedure wasn't followed.
Certainly seems to be an illegal approach.
If the clause is enforceable or not is basically irrelevant now. He has show he is willing to jump ship to our biggest rivals, at a time when the squad is crippled with loads missing players all for a few extra quid. He simply cannot be allowed to play for us again and doesn't deserve to pull on our shirt with that attitude. Best we can hope for now is to get a few quid for him and send him to a club where he isn't likely to play against us in the middle 8's.
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| Quote ="ColD"Based on the facts they have put forward they had little choice, seems like a sad end, the Bradford scenario seems a little bizarre, but if that's where he ends up (which I doubt) then good luck to him - this is not going to end pretty IMO'"
Its irrelevant really whether Ryan or his agent approached Bradford. Subject to operational rules they unable to make an offer or even talk to him without permission of the Leigh club.
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| One fan has said that, If Ryan doesn't want to be here, then fine. He's ended up behaving like a right ***t, right now I'm drinking BITTER. Crap no, but honestly not sure if he's a natural no. 7. But skillful & very quick, most definitely !
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| Quote ="davo1979"Its irrelevant really whether Ryan or his agent approached Bradford. Subject to operational rules they unable to make an offer or even talk to him without permission of the Leigh club.'"
No idea what happened there. Was attempting to quote sensei bull
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| Quote ="Nat (Rugby_Aholic)"You are all clearly too eager to believe Beaumont that you would read a statement like that and believe it! =#FF0000Last week he was off to Canada, now it is the Bulls. He is talking absolute rubbish to try and paper over the cracks that he himself has caused in your squad. He really never fails to deliver does old Derek! Who better to blame than the league rivals?'"
No he wasn't. Players were approached to go to Canada. Ryan clearly isn't one of them. Brierley has been wanting to go to SL for years, he wasn't going to drop DOWN a division and move to Canada to play Champ 1.
I get you don't like Derek but don't just make things up to suit your agenda.
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| Quote ="Nat (Rugby_Aholic)"You are all clearly too eager to believe Beaumont that you would read a statement like that and believe it! Last week he was off to Canada, now it is the Bulls. He is talking absolute rubbish to try and paper over the cracks that he himself has caused in your squad. He really never fails to deliver does old Derek! Who better to blame than the league rivals?
If turns out to be true and I were Ryan Brierley I would be suing the club for slander/libel for making him look greedy and disloyal by publishing an admitted private conversation.
How are any of your players supposed to talk to your coach in private if they now know that it will be made public at Beaumonts desire!'"
To be fair, if this was my club I'd be swallowing the owners BS too. I did for long enough when we had the fake sheikh.
Eventually the penny will drop and a collective D'oh will echo up and down the east lancs road.
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| I doubt there's much truth in the Bradford rumour, as Green comes across a pretty sensible chap and illegal approaches are toxic. I am still finding this awfully funny though.
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| Quote ="Nat (Rugby_Aholic)"You are all clearly too eager to believe Beaumont that you would read a statement like that and believe it! Last week he was off to Canada, now it is the Bulls. He is talking absolute rubbish to try and paper over the cracks that he himself has caused in your squad. He really never fails to deliver does old Derek! Who better to blame than the league rivals?'"
I know who I believe.
Ryan has constantly told fans face to face he is gong nowhere and committed to getting us out of the league, the facts are he was engineering a move all along.
Ryan put in to leave the club Monday (whether the contract)yet was still patting the badge after scoring v Bradford on Sunday.
So if you want to believe Brierley feel free but I know who I believe and it isn't our ex Scrum Half!
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| Quote ="Nat (Rugby_Aholic)"You are all clearly too eager to believe Beaumont that you would read a statement like that and believe it! Last week he was off to Canada, now it is the Bulls. He is talking absolute rubbish to try lo and paper over the cracks that he himself has caused in your squad. He really never fails to deliver does old Derek! Who better to blame than the league rivals?
If turns out to be true and I were Ryan Brierley I would be suing the club for slander/libel for making him look greedy and disloyal by publishing an admitted private conversation.
How are any of your players supposed to talk to your coach in private if they now know that it will be made public at Beaumonts desire!'"
When did Beaumont claim he was off to Canada?
Also if it turns out to be true how can you sue for slander or libel??
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| If Brierley wants to go just do a straight swap for gaskill,don't get me wrong Brierley can go 60 yard on a loose ball but gaskill can kick put players through a gap and also lead a team round the park so for me it's a no brainer
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| Nobody is bigger than the club, be they player, coach or indeed owner, however the difference is that players and coaches take money out of the club, the owner puts it in, I will be backing the one putting it in
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| Quote ="Nozzy"Irrelevant. Before the May deadline any contact with a contracted player has to go through the parent club first.
Seeing as Derek and the board found out through Neil Jukes who only found out off Brierley after the offer had already been made, I am guessing this procedure wasn't followed.
Certainly seems to be an illegal approach.
If the clause is enforceable or not is basically irrelevant now. He has show he is willing to jump ship to our biggest rivals, at a time when the squad is crippled with loads missing players all for a few extra quid. He simply cannot be allowed to play for us again and doesn't deserve to pull on our shirt with that attitude. Best we can hope for now is to get a few quid for him and send him to a club where he isn't likely to play against us in the middle 8's.'"
"cough" Mickey Higham "cough"
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| Quote ="gunners guns13"If Brierley wants to go just do a straight swap for gaskill,don't get me wrong Brierley can go 60 yard on a loose ball but gaskill can kick put players through a gap and also lead a team round the park so for me it's a no brainer'"
I'd be happy with that!
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| Quote ="Sensei-Bull""cough" Mickey Higham "cough"'"
We went to Warrington with a bid. Warrington informed Mickey about the bid and he said he would like to go to Leigh. Wire and Leigh came to an agreement and we paid 50k for him.
All done in the proper way and all done through his parent club at Wire as the rules state.
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| Quote ="Sensei-Bull""cough" Mickey Higham "cough"'"
Like it, very well said
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| Quote ="gunners guns13"If Brierley wants to go just do a straight swap for gaskill,don't get me wrong Brierley can go 60 yard on a loose ball but gaskill can kick put players through a gap and also lead a team round the park so for me it's a no brainer'"
Bradford already have a player that can do that. What we need is a player with a bit of flare and speed to burn to play off him.
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| Quote ="Sensei-Bull""cough" Mickey Higham "cough"'"
Leigh made an offer to Mickey via Warrington Wolves. If Brierley IS telling the truth, then you lot will be punished accordingly.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Nobody is bigger than the club, be they player, coach or indeed owner, however the difference is that players and coaches take money out of the club, the owner puts it in, I will be backing the one putting it in'"
I would agree that's a fair point of view.
However, DB is currently a public relations disaster.
Last year we had a very happy camp....in a few months we seem to be losing the plot.
These club statements are mostly cringeworthy....being legally in the right doesn't necessarily let you make friends and influence people.
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| Who cares Paul if they are the facts then the club have done the right thing IMO
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| Quote ="Nozzy"We went to Warrington with a bid. Warrington informed Mickey about the bid and he said he would like to go to Leigh. Wire and Leigh came to an agreement and we paid 50k for him.
All done in the proper way and all done through his parent club at Wire as the rules state.'"
I bet that's exactly as it happened.
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| The trouble with all these tapping up allegations are that they are very difficult to prove. Bradford had something similar happen to them a few seasons ago with Huddersfield and Craig Kopczak. We were adamant that he had been tapped up, but couldn't prove it.
It was only when Keith Mason took the Giants to court over a completely separate matter that the truth came out when some club officials were under oath in court.
Even then, despite that, the rfl took an absolute eternity to do anything about it and Craig remained a Giants player. Off the top of my head, I don't think the Bulls received any compensation or anything.
I will be very surprised (and disappointed) if the Bulls have made an illegal approach, but I will be even more surprised if Leigh and Derek manage to prove it.
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| Quote ="Sensei-Bull"I bet that's exactly as it happened.'"
If we are to believe what Warrington, Leigh, Mickey Higham and his agent said then yes, that is what happened.
If we believe what Sensei-Bull from the internet has speculated then maybe not.
I'm going to go with the former.
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