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| Good Luck Sam in whatever you do...just sorry it may not be a Leigh !!!
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| I don't think the young lad Sam will be coming out of this unscathed. This poor lad had dedicated 13 years of his life playing for a Leigh rugby team and seems desperate to play professionally...
All this rubbish being branded about by 'the powers that be' are only hindering his progress !!!!
I hope he is strong enough to get over this and have a long career as a professional player.
All the best to you Sam
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| Quote ="WOLRAB"the club for a starter, especially when its stated in a paper that he has signed.'"
NO communication was sent to any newspapers through 'official' channels about 'Hoppy' signing for Leigh.
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| What a very bitter thread this is but not as crass as that statement from Leigh .
As far as I know Sam hasn't signed for anyone yet and anyone that was at the East game on Saturday would have seen all the top Vultures from Leigh and Salford hovering around the talanted youngsters in the East ranks and Sam didn't help the cause by playing an absolute blinder and walking the man of the match award .
Now what really p1sses me off is the nasty dig at Easts coach Mick Fishwick who is an honest lad who granted may need his negotiating skills tuning in a bit but he hasn't deserved this crap but who knows the circumstances of the phone call he is supposed to have made ?
IMO an apology should be made on the Centurions web site to Mr C , Mick and all at Leigh East for that scathing attack statement on a club that they are wanting to have a relationship with .
If you want to see honest players playing class rugby under honest coaches then come down to the East at weekends as these players dont just pop up on the radar at 18 years old they have been there for years ,
Ive a good mind to tell the Centurions to go and f@ck themselves and stick to watching an honest club with honest players playing an honest game that is far removed from that bollox that was dished out at the LSV last season .
Theres only one club that comes out of this looking professional and it isn't Leigh or Salford .
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| Mr C , once you have had your tea can you enlighten the general public on what Leigh East get back for all the money spent on nurturing and coaching these young lads when they sign pro ?
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Cant remember Leigh slagging Mick Fishwick off when he and others was playing many a game as A.N Other to keep them in buisiness in the early 90s .........s
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| Quote ="tiswallace"
Theres only one club that comes out of this looking professional and it isn't Leigh or Salford .'"
So posting the process of private negotiations on a public message board strikes you as professional does it? Well we definitely have different opinions.
And why is the coach getting involved in the negotiations anyway? If he's only in the game to get young lads signed and get a pat on the back when they do then he's in it for the wrong reasons.
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| Quote ="AJ Viking"Oh dear.
Truely from a neutrals point of view, but I'm amazed it's got this far. And there's only one reason for it - the post last week from Mr C informing the world (and Salford) what was happening.
If I was at Leigh I wouldn't have been happy and it looked to me like it was a 'guess what I've been doing today'.
Nothing should have been posted on here until it was on the dotted line, it's crazy, unprofessional and damages alot of reputations.
So so much happens behind the scenes at a rugby club, but you don't post all and sundry on an internet forum just to feed your own ego.'"
Hate to say it, but he has a point.
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| Chill TW.
IMO Leigh have told the fans whats happened something they have been slagged off for not doing to often. When its Comes to the Proffesional clubs relationship with the towns two amateur teams they are damned if they do and damned iof they don't.
I used to play for East Junior teams by the way not well admitidly
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| Personally I would like to see Millward, Mr C and young Sam in a room alone. I am sure the solution lies there.
Sam you know Leighs opportunity was the best for you, Millward will bring you on no end, something McRae will not do watching you play on a park field in front of 50 folk, 4 whippets and a burnt out car.
Have a chat with KL, your family and then sit down with IM.
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| Quote ="AJ Viking"So posting the process of private negotiations on a public message board strikes you as professional does it? Well we definitely have different opinions.
And why is the coach getting involved in the negotiations anyway? If he's only in the game to get young lads signed and get a pat on the back when they do then he's in it for the wrong reasons.'"
Sorry AJ have to disagree with you
Keith Lathom has very strong contacts as a former Salford player and ex Leigh coach so he was in the best position to help the lad and he was just relaying what was going on to us and long may it continue .
I will call Keith for one thing he shouldn't have put on this board what was an internal Leigh East issue and that Mick had apologised ( for what I dont know ) so that he could get slated on here , now I think that was wrong and things can be learned on all sides .
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| I s'pose it is pantomine season.
"He's signed........."
"Oh, no he hasn't"
"Oh, yes he has"
"Oh, no he hasn't"
"Oh, yes he has"
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| Quote ="maurice"Personally I would like to see Millward, Mr C and young Sam in a room alone. I am sure the solution lies there.
Sam you know Leighs opportunity was the best for you, Millward will bring you on no end, something McRae will not do watching you play on a park field in front of 50 folk, 4 whippets and a burnt out car.
Have a chat with KL, your family and then sit down with IM.'"
Well said Mo thats what I wanted to say
and theres more than 50 and no burnt out cars and no whippets just Aussie and Dougie the black Labs ( butty theives ) standing in the p1ss down rain every fortnight .
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| Quote ="POPMAN"Better than Eastenders, this.
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| Quote ="tiswallace"Well said Mo thats what I wanted to say
and theres more than 50 and no burnt out cars and no whippets just Aussie and Dougie the black Labs ( butty theives ) standing in the p1ss down rain every fortnight .'"
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| Quote ="tiswallace"Sorry AJ have to disagree with you
Keith Lathom has very strong contacts as a former Salford player and ex Leigh coach so he was in the best position to help the lad and he was just relaying what was going on to us and long may it continue .
I will call Keith for one thing he shouldn't have put on this board what was an internal Leigh East issue and that Mick had apologised ( for what I dont know ) so that he could get slated on here , now I think that was wrong and things can be learned on all sides .'"
Sorry tiswallace I didn't mean why is Keith getting involved, I meant the U18's coach. It seems things were going ok until he's got involved. Having a good knowledge of NWC rugby and the process of lads signing for clubs/scholarship etc. I don't know why he has other than to try and look important.
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| Quote ="AJ Viking"Sorry tiswallace I didn't mean why is Keith getting involved, I meant the U18's coach. It seems things were going ok until he's got involved. Having a good knowledge of NWC rugby and the process of lads signing for clubs/scholarship etc. I don't know why he has other than to try and look important.'"
Mick is the head coach at the Easts and the circumstances of the phone call and him representing Sam when its clear that Keith was his go between are best left alone untill someone says otherwise .
And Mo theres more than one burnt out car and a burglars dog at Salford reserve games and only 12 men on the pitch , well someone has to stay in the dressing shed and watch your gear
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| Its all getting silly now
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"Its all getting silly now'" this got silly about 3 weeks ago when it first got posted.
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| To summarise :-
The potential signing of Sam was brought to the domain namely by members of Leigh East
When talks broke down a statement was issued by Leigh
All the usual anti Rowley mob on here tried to blame the wrong person for the statement.
When educated on who did issue the statement the post takes a dramatic change to one wishing Sam all the best.
Interesting when people start to know the truth isnt it!!
As I said yesterday I trust Ian Millward to build a great team at Leigh.
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| Quote ="Tipster Ste"As I said yesterday I trust Ian Millward to build a great team at Leigh.'"
So do I, lets get someone else to do the press releases in future
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| Ian's passionate and in hindsight he might think differently but I'd rather be with him than against him!
Maybe it will send a message out that you either want to play for Ian and join the journey with him or hire people to work on your behalf who annoy him and end up at a club that wont even have the same head coach by June
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| Quote ="Tipster Ste"Ian's passionate and in hindsight he might think differently but I'd rather be with him than against him!
Maybe it will send a message out that you either want to play for Ian and join the journey with him or hire people to work on your behalf who annoy him and end up at a club that wont even have the same head coach by June
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| Quote ="waterfield's finest"I have been educated that this is the sort of thing AR does, so am guessing it's him again. To be honest, I hope it is, because if there are two such loose cannons in the club then God help us.'"
I seem to remember the St Helens coach of a few years ago being such a loose cannon that he got fired.
Can't recall his name though.
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| Quote ="Steve Fox"I seem to remember the St Helens coach of a few years ago being such a loose cannon that he got fired.
Can't recall his name though.
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He also won 2 SL Grand Finals, 2 Challenge Cups and a World Club Championship, he completely turned our club around in his short spell here,[size=59and he almost relegated the pies.[/size
I'd take the gamble. Surely it's better than what we've had to put up with over recent years?
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