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| Quote ="ChutneyFanatic"He has to drop drinky, ben had best game he's ever had for Leigh last night.'" drinkwaters defence in last 10 yards is shocking and he's let a heĺl of a lot of trys in over the season and i can see teams targeting more and more come the middle 8s
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| Bens last MOM performance saw him dropped for the following game. I expect this will happen on Friday. Not that he deserves it but Drinkwater is seemingly untouchable.
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| Glad to see folk finally seeing drinkwater for what he is which is nowt special
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| Quote ="gunners guns13"drinkwaters defence in last 10 yards is shocking and he's let a heĺl of a lot of trys in over the season and i can see teams targeting more and more come the middle 8s'"
How the fook do you expect a half to stop a forward from 10 yards out??
There should be more than one player covering those plays - did you see Brown get bounced off the attacker for the first one you are picking Drinkwater out for- a 7 is not there to stop those tries
And have a look at the winning try and see who missed that tackle - I'll give you a clue and tell you it was Reynolds, and again don't particularly blame him, wouldn't expect someone of that size to be able to
Drinkwater not at his best by any means recently but IMO he dictates the game and moves far more than Reynolds, who himself has definitely stepped up since being dropped.
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| Quote ="ColD"How the fook do you expect a half to stop a forward from 10 yards out??
There should be more than one player covering those plays - did you see Brown get bounced off the attacker for the first one you are picking Drinkwater out for- a 7 is not there to stop those tries
And have a look at the winning try and see who missed that tackle - I'll give you a clue and tell you it was Reynolds, and again don't particularly blame him, wouldn't expect someone of that size to be able to
Drinkwater not at his best by any means recently but IMO he dictates the game and moves far more than Reynolds, who himself has definitely stepped up since being dropped.'"
Centres and second rowers should be protecting the halves from these plays. Don't think Fleming is strong enough defensively. Didn't find drinkwater isolated like that with Paterson at left centre.
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| Quote ="ColD"How the fook do you expect a half to stop a forward from 10 yards out??
There should be more than one player covering those plays - did you see Brown get bounced off the attacker for the first one you are picking Drinkwater out for- a 7 is not there to stop those tries
And have a look at the winning try and see who missed that tackle - I'll give you a clue and tell you it was Reynolds, and again don't particularly blame him, wouldn't expect someone of that size to be able to
Drinkwater not at his best by any means recently but IMO he dictates the game and moves far more than Reynolds, who himself has definitely stepped up since being dropped.'" not saying he should smash them but he should at least hold on to a player so someone can come and help him complete the tackle and I'm talking over the full season not just the Catalan game
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| Quote ="LeythIg"Centres and second rowers should be protecting the halves from these plays. Don't think Fleming is strong enough defensively. Didn't find drinkwater isolated like that with Paterson at left centre.'"
Fleming seems ok in attack, but I agree defensively seems a little weak - unless it's Langi not sure what the answer is (possibly Brown), Patterson needs to be in second row for me
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| Quote ="ColD"How the fook do you expect a half to stop a forward from 10 yards out??
There should be more than one player covering those plays - did you see Brown get bounced off the attacker for the first one you are picking Drinkwater out for- a 7 is not there to stop those tries
=#FF0000And have a look at the winning try and see who missed that tackle - I'll give you a clue and tell you it was Reynolds, and again don't particularly blame him, wouldn't expect someone of that size to be able to
Drinkwater not at his best by any means recently but IMO he dictates the game and moves far more than Reynolds, who himself has definitely stepped up since being dropped.'"
Exactly. It's a good tactic, running at the halves - perhaps we ought to try it? It also has the double value of tiring the opposition playmakers.
We can't drop Drinkwater really, as we then wouldn't have a playmaker at all. I still think we missed a trick with Ridyard this season - in my opinion we should have persevered with him. We still haven't got a good, reliable kicker from hand. How many times do our opponents start their set of six from their 20 metre line, instead of from their own try line? Also, how many times do we gain more than ten metres from penalty kicks? Paul Cooke used to be one of the best kickers in RL - it's a shame that his expertise doesn't seem to be rubbing off on our players, in the kicking department.
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| We've scored plenty points this season - our problem is too many weak tacklers (you know who they are!)
Agree Reynolds put in superb effort at Catalans but still weak defence.
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| Possibly that's why Mortimer has been brought in.For me Drinky has to take on the kicking responsibilities now.Or we won't have a kicker on the park.
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| Quote ="Alan"=#FF0000=#BF0000Exactly. It's a good tactic, running at the halves - perhaps we ought to try it?
It also has the double value of tiring the opposition playmakers.
We can't drop Drinkwater really, as we then wouldn't have a playmaker at all. I still think we missed a trick with Ridyard this season - in my opinion we should have persevered with him. We still haven't got a good, reliable kicker from hand. How many times do our opponents start their set of six from their 20 metre line, instead of from their own try line? Also, how many times do we gain more than ten metres from penalty kicks? Paul Cooke used to be one of the best kickers in RL - it's a shame that his expertise doesn't seem to be rubbing off on our players, in the kicking department.'"
Don't think they had any halves left on the field to run at after 20mins which makes the result all the more frustrating
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| Quote ="davo1979"Don't think they had any halves left on the field to run at after 20mins which makes the result all the more frustrating'"
Walsh remained on the pitch. Now his kicking game was pretty decent.
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| Quote ="mattwom"We've scored plenty points this season - our problem is too many weak tacklers (you know who they are!)
Agree Reynolds put in superb effort at Catalans but still weak defence.'"
To be fair, for a half Reynolds is quite strong defensively IMO - as has been pointed out on other threads the lapses are more to do with centre/second row
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| We don't know how to slow a game down..Come on, a minute left and we still pushing for a try...Senior players should have closed it off,end of..
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| Quote ="atomic"We don't know how to slow a game down..Come on, a minute left and we still pushing for a try...Senior players should have closed it off,end of..'"
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| Quote ="atomic"We don't know how to slow a game down..Come on, a minute left and we still pushing for a try...Senior players should have closed it off,end of..'" Completely agree with this we need too learn to shut a game down when we have a healthy lead.
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| Quote ="ian c"Completely agree with this we need too learn to shut a game down when we have a healthy lead.'"
Or a slender lead with 90 seconds to go.
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| Quote ="Alan"How many times do our opponents start their set of six from their 20 metre line, instead of from their own try line? Also, how many times do we gain more than ten metres from penalty kicks? Paul Cooke used to be one of the best kickers in RL - it's a shame that his expertise doesn't seem to be rubbing off on our players, in the kicking department.'"
Patterson had trials in NFL as a punt kicker - reputed range 65 yards - he should be capable of putting any free kick in opposing 25.
Also you would be hard pressed to tell who the captain is.
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| Quote ="JackDiggle"Patterson had trials in NFL as a punt kicker - reputed range 65 yards - he should be capable of putting any free kick in opposing 25.
=#FF0000=#FF0000Also you would be hard pressed to tell who the captain is
No obvious words of encouragement or inspiration. Hope Micky Higham is back soon - he excels in that department.
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| ey up were at it again with these stupid posts, Hock's fault
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| P1ss takers just p1ss off back under your rock please
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| Quote ="LeythIg"Centres and second rowers should be protecting the halves from these plays. Don't think Fleming is strong enough defensively. Didn't find drinkwater isolated like that with Paterson at left centre.'"
It's processional sport grow a pair these guys can't be protected as they are required to defend these days
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| Quote ="EVO105"It's processional sport grow a pair these guys can't be protected as they are required to defend these days'"
If a forward is running into a one on one with a half back from close range, then more often than not he will score.
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