Something must have happened, he was Leigh's 14th man 1st half and ours in the 2nd.

Poor ref all round, we've been on the wrong end of his crapness plenty of times

if you study the match and are a true fan of the game you will see that he had a very good first half and a very bad second.
and if he had given leigh as many penalties then the score would be the other way round. the only thing you got right was that he should not referee in our league again

Just watching it back and I stand by my assesment of the first half (and the second).

Yep Ive watched it again and he was carp in both halfs

gorgeous george is the worst of a bad bunch, he cost u the game, never a forward pass and as for the video ref well

, we got roby on sunday he killed us at your place should be interesting, ,,, hope we can win sunday and see u guys next thursday( we owe u one, ) lol,

Athought or two:

How often do we see a player go offside but not get penalised because he's not involved with the play? On that basis it's fair to ask whether Ostick's obstruction would have made a difference ie would the Fev defender have made the tackle? The video ref never considered that in his comments. It's not the first time this season that Ian Smith has had tunnel vision.

We can't blame the ref for the forward pass: the TJ gave it. The annoying thing is how many marginal passes get ignored but not on this occasion.

Those two decisions were absulutely crucial. They must have been a crushing blow to Leigh especially as they were two superb pieces of rugby. No real surprise then that the discipline suffered after that because Fev were undoubtedly given a lift and most penalties resulted from their dominance at the ruck etc. Had those "tries" stood we would have been discussing a wonder performance by Martin Ridyard.

With the two big injuries Leigh are a bit threadbare up front especially against a pack like Fev's. They needed things to go for them last night and, sadly, the marginal decisions went the other way. After all said and done, however, it was only 4 tries to 3.

Cheers Brian !!!
George Stokes....Birthplace: WIGAN

What bugs me is how many 'miles' forward passes get ignored. Couple in SL on TV in the last few weeks were a pass is made metres behind a line and caught metres in front of the line.



I am sure that we have been caught for forward passes more than all of our opponents put together this season.

Would not supprise me one bit that in the coming weeks we read that Fev are accepting the RFLs new rules and link up with another SL club. Seems very funny that a couple of weeks after the club say that we will not be a feeder club that we are on the end of ridiculous refing display in such an important game.

Don't let that paranoia run away with you! Fev have similarly stated they will not be a feeder club.

Far from paranoid but I do like a good conspiracy theory.
Where's me man on moon one gone.

Three points: 1. FrankB once said to me you should never blame the ref - he may have thought again after last night.
2. Stuart Littler was 'onside' when he intercepted and would have scored at 10-0. Stokes was stood adjacent to the play the ball on our line with his back to Littler - Littler was stood 'on the line' He just guessed that he was offside. 3. This is twice we have been robbed at Featherstone - once by Leahy and now Stokes.

How do you know the ref gave off side

I thought the same as I was sure he gave 'hand ball', this was a new one for me but it was consistent to most other things he made up last night.

That's what he signalled in awarding the penalty. Littler only had to be a yard back from the ptb, which was right on our line. Your first try came direct from that penalty, as I'm pretty sure one of our early ones did. I wouldn't question the penalties against us, but I (and the players I suspect) was disappointed that mainly one team was considered to be comitting the offences.

I can't understand a ref who gives one team (us) four consecutive penalties in the first twenty minutes, when we, unbelievably didn't concede any. He then proceeded to cane us, with 16 of the next 20 going to you guys. Obviously we were under pressure, and liable to concede, just as you were at times, but didn't.

He reffed us at Halifax and the penalty count was 10-4 against. He reffed us at Batley, and we conceded 12. He reffed us at home to Sheffield and we only conceded 6. On that basis, perhaps we should hope to get him again next Thursday!!

He did signal it but how do you know he gave it

Wont comment till watch the replay later.

Well who did if it wasn't the ref ? It wasn't offside imo did you think it was ?

Just go on Google and type in " Whinging coach meets not too bad a referee" and you`ll see "Whinging coach meets wtf have you down with the decent referee"....

Just got a snippet of the latest Spielberg blockbuster, 'Raped at the Road'. Its about a sport that has lost its integrity and a specific play off game.

This is the script from a half time incident in the tunnel.

DP. 'Eh ya Ginger to$$er, what the luvv does tha think tha doing?'
GT. 'Tha Wat, ya ugly luvv'
DP. 'Does tha know who thar talking ta'
GT. 'Thee tha pillo**'
DP. 'Think tha'd better remember tha full time reffin contract aint sorted yet'
GT. 'Tha wot'
DP. 'Tha erd, mi 'nt RFL are like flies n sheet. Luk who's sponsored't game today, does tha want me t'have a wurd'
GT. 'Luvv, sorry Dexy, I'll sort it in't next 40, trust mi'

Like it

amusing!!