It was simply what it was, simply unacceptable. The fans did not deserve a performance like that today.
There was no appreciation of the significance of the game in the context of the League table up to today.
Players seemed clueless and basically uninterested in how to beat Widnes, who to their credit played simple and basic rugby. A top 4 SL side would have wiped the floor with either of us based on those performances.
No Antoni Maria? Please, Mr jukes, tell me he was injured because otherwise there is no reason I can imagine why he should not have played based on his current form. Danny Tickle has given is all but he should not have played ahead of Antoni on current form, and of course there are others who would fit that category.
And as for the other significant crime committed by the players today, why did at least 10 of the Leigh players walk off the pitch at the end of the game without acknowledging the Leigh fans in the North and West stands? I saw Micky, Cory, Harrison, Greg, Atelea and Glenn at the end. Win. lose or draw the fans will show the appreciation they see fit. We are a fair and knowledgeable bunch and deserve better than that. Get your heads up and show some respect!
It's time to look in the mirror boys and if you don't like what you see then we will have a chance of beating Warrington.
On the other hand, if you do like what you see, then we are goosed. Defeat can be accepted in certain circumstances but lack of effort is always unforgivable.

That post is spot on !

Plenty of effort, in my opinion - much of it misdirected. Less desire than Widnes, less skill than Widnes, less 'nous' than Widnes, in fact less of everything than Widnes for the THIRD time this season - and remember, they finished below us in the SL!

Agree Alan , effort got in the way of good decision making , we ran down too many blind alleys , didn't get to a 5 th tackle kick enough , didn't build pressure enough , just very poor

Lot of work needed to come up with a game plan to beat Wire now

It seems every time we have a break we fall apart , unfortunately the next break is just before the MPG , which looks likely now

What break is that?

I had an Inkling at the beginning of the season that collectivley the engine room of the team were a bit to long in the tooth, as the season has progressed and they have got older together sadly it is an easily recognisable fact that we are employing to many aged players who simply are struggling to keep going. When a body is knackered it is not only the energy levels that is affected the mental faculties wane as well.
Salford went down the same path when Brian Noble was in charge, taking on board expierienced players but after a quite a few years in SL void of the energy levels necessary and required, result wholesale changes not only of the team but also the supposedly brains trust of the club.
SL or relegation we need at the very least 6 changes, and a change of the on field tactics and direction would not go amiss either.
For me it is also highlighting the stupidity of whichever blithering idiot at the club decided to challenge the disciplinary over Actons sentance when the rule of thumb has been an increase in suspension of the number of games to miss, we could definatley do with him at London and as is more likely the looming MPG.

We have been done over twice by a lower division side that apparently did not pose the Championships biggest threat to us (!)

So lets not start thinking we are in the MPG already. Halifax and especially London will be confident of turning us over likewise.Especially when Marshall and Henderson review that rubbish.

In fact I would make London the favourites to beat Leigh right now, given both sides performances this weekend.

I agree Harold. We really need two wins, to ensure an appearance in the MPG. If we play like we did against Catalans and Salford, that shouldn't be a problem, but if we play like we did yesterday, or against Hull KR, (i.e. if we allow them to dictate the game) I can't see where those two wins are going to come from.

I agree with 'Harry Stottle' about our 'ageing' players, and that's why the return of Maria is a must for me. The selection of Pelissier (or Hood) and Higson (and maybe even Hampshire) should provide a desperately needed boost in energy and enthusiasm levels

Absolutely Steve. Credit to Widnes though, (and HKR too) as they worked out exactly how to play us, and stuck to their highly effective tactics. We are desperately missing the 'go forward' and aggression of Hock and Acton, but every team in this competition is now missing key players.

Agree with this. And frankly, even if we did make the MPG, what's likely to happen? Absolutely no character to recover from something going against them. Disgusting from a set of well paid players.

Huddersfield played both Widnes and yourselves towards the end of the regular season in July and as a side Leigh were way better than Widnes then, both offensively and defensively.
Plenty of sides have made the mistake of setting off at full speed early on in the competition. I think Leigh did this this year then got carried away with themselves. As you say the experienced players who were invaluable early on are now perhaps struggling to keep up to that pace later on in a gruelling season. That's not their fault-if your body won't do it- it won't! that's down to the coach he is inexperienced and perhaps didn't get the right mix of youth and experience, didn't get the conditioning right or spell players earlier on. The club will learn from this.
A loss early in the competition to the challenging championship side puts pressure on- as my team saw last year! Nerves will be kicking in with the players as they start to think about what could happen next. Nerves means mistakes and panic plays. Hope you guys survive as I think it's unfair you haven't had time to put things in place like every other team currently in the SL competition has. Looks like KR could well have done a Leigh of last year and put 2 SL clubs in the MPG. If history continues to repeat a last minute controversial drop goal will save you from the mpg!!!!! Good luck guys!

It is unbelievable what is going on here. What players are getting away with. This week alone, We have players attending weddings and then bunking off next days training. Thats commitment for you.

We have players who chuck towel in and walk off midweek core fitness drills canot be ar$ed and unbelievably we had one of our key players hold a family christening a couple of hours before the key match. A christening. What on earth is going on ??

I knew we were dead in the water in terms of procuring the win when i heard that.

I am fuming beyond belief. I have made my views abundantly clear by the way. And anyone who knows me knows I bleed Leigh RLFC right through me.

Some of these players are on £170k.it is just not acceptable. It is a disgrace.

The culture has got to change quickly,change has got to occur now before all is lost.

Outstanding- we need answers to all these questions

You can buy all of the players you want to, but the one thing you can't buy is TEAM SPIRIT. That is what is missing, and has been missing for most of the season. If they are not careful, we won't even be in the MPG...or maybe they know there will be no relegation this season. I don't know but something is amiss.

Amazingly bad yesterday. Brilliantly effective against Catalans, a 2 week rest - then they go and produce the worst display in a long time.

Plan A went out the window just 5 mins in when Mortimer went off. Plan B was nowhere to be seen.

Higham was asked to do too many minutes.

I could go on...

You've also got a player at tribunal today or tomorrow, not to mention the player brawling with Cooky at training, perhaps you need to look beyond the players Harold.

Don't think we'll see Higson again this season, believe he was due to play but circumstances dictated otherwise

??? That's cryptic - and yet another shame. We need all the bodies and energy we can muster for the last three (four?) games. There has been too much 'non-availability' for my liking

It seems all control has been lost, seriously considering whether I want to go to another game until there is evidence of sanity in the place.

I was angry enough at the end of the game, but Harold you have got me really worried for our future in SL. I know from your past posts that what you write on here is usually accurate. As I have stated in my earlier post on this thread, I saw most of the players walk off the pitch without acknowledging the fans. It struck me as both odd and disrespectful. You sensed that there was something else wrong amongst some of the players by them doing this, but at the time I couldn't be sure. What you have posted makes some sense of all this. Things need to be put right quickly, but after watching Neil Jukes' press conference a couple of times on LCTV he strikes me as a despondent man and the stress is starting to show. He contradicts himself by saying that he was nervous before the game, but the preparation was immaculate, and then he says he was confident, all in one or two sentences. I couldn't understand why he should be nervous after the immaculate preparation. When asked about the booing from the fans he clearly gets agitated and defensive. He's basically saying that he knows how much work is being done by the players and staff, and that the spectators don't. I should hope so too. Neil saw what we all saw during that game yesterday. So does Neil think that the best part of 5000 Leythers are wrong by doing this? Those that did boo were right to do so in my opinion, based on that performance. I hope that if there are any issues behind the scenes at the club that they can be put right ahead of the Wire game.

How many times this season has there been :reports : of players having disputes with coaches or trainers .Its obvious that major trouble is going on behind the scenes

The fact that there are so many people that you could fall out with doesn't help!

It must be the players fault that all this alleged disruption is happening as players don't get picked....

But the coaches still coach

After reading what Harold and Wayne have stated, I'm very worried what's going on at our Club?We have so many Coaches it's a joke,then it's reported fighting amongst ourselves, and walking off the Training field

,It's EMBARRASING, I Await the season starts on Saturday posts.

Season starts on Saturday ? I think it finished last Sunday