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If Ryans on a season long loan and they recall him, does that mean he can't come back like a DR player would be able to?

A new loan agreement would have to be negotiated, they are completely different than a DR agreement.

Thought so, cheers Fred.

He's been named in the 19 man squad for Sunday.t.co/ksSm3jZr

He's been named in the 19 man squad for Sunday.t.co/ksSm3jZr

I don't know enough about Cas's players to see if he will be needed by them but guess we will find out soon enough.

If Ryan does play for Cas on sunday at least it's Hunslet we're playing against Bob & Nico will do a good job at 7 & 9

So its not a season long loan then,more like " you can have him,build his confidence,improve his profile then we will have him back when we get some injuries type of loan".

DRs and loans wind me up its all one way traffic,I honestly would stop them all or demand that a loan is a loan for the agreed period,our league is full of SL DRs and loan players who would be frustrated as anything playing in front of a 100 or so people in the reserves every week,SL clubs are not doing us any favours its them who benefit more than teams in our Division.

My view is we are where we are.

I am sure we will have Ryan (Kes) for the rest of the season notwithstanding this Sunday and I would also like Spencer back this weekend.

Had we more regular fans we would have a bigger squad so atm we have to put up with it.

Franchising is surely in its' death throes.

Wish we had the brass to have the two I have mentioned and Laythwaite on full time contracts.

Oh and if Walt or Glow or any other Leyther wins the Euro lottery I am sure in addition to us buying the LSV we would also have Chris back next season.

Even without the Euro millions all we need is £10k each from 2000 Leythers.

I agree Frank, Chris Giles would be a good signing

Glad you agree Fred but I am quite content with our current wingers and fullback.

We'll get him back next week, when Cas's 'foreign' half backs have served their suspensions. Meanwhile, I hope he doesn't end up as 18th/19th man and not get a game anywhere - at his age, I suspect he would be mighty frustrated, training all week and ending up watching!

Well at least Tom Spencer is not in the Pies squad this evening.

So the loan is just match by match with the home club having a call on when he goes back ?
So in RL terms he's on a week by week loan that last for a year ?

Just out of interest does this agreement work in reverse - could Leigh sign 6 players on a weeks loan from SL or is the loop hole covered ?

Well if I recall correctly a club can have only 4 players on DC/loan at any one time.

In the case of Ryan' had Rangi Chase not been under suspension maybe we would not be too bothered.

While very good for Ryan and I hope for his sake personally he does well.. top guy and family.. this is why I do not feel loan and dual reg moves work for halfbacks generally... there's a lot of chopping and changing and the player is seen as more of a luxury than what he should be, an essential part.

Probably the main reason Paul has been using Ryan off the bench

I still think that duals/loan players should only be relied on for places such as prop, second row, winger... positions that aren't generally relied upon for creative play.
Any of the crucial positions such as hooker or stand off need to be players that you can rely on week in, week out.

At the risk of using that oft heard phrase, that became synonymous with the build up to the last General Election........[i"I agree with Nik"[/i!!



For the sake of stability, and his own personal development, I reckon Ryan would be better served cutting his ties with Cas, and signing for us!! A couple of seasons of regular first team, building his reputation still further.....and if we don't get in next time round, then let him go and take his chances in SDL with our blessing!!

That said, if the groundswell of opinion concerning P&R/licences continues apace, then he might well be lining up, alongside Hilly, in our return to SDL in a couple of years anyway!!

Trained with Leigh this morning, so can't see him playing for Cas, can you?

Would agree with your assumption Myler.

i hope he does play for us, i really hate this dual and loan system, all the advantages are with the sl clubs, some may say well the sl club should have all the advantages as its their players, but that still does not help out clubs like us, i am sure ryan is as frusted as all of us, and just wants to play rl.

You mean foreign half back and club captain Danny Orr, right?



As for Brierley - has HAS to play this weekend, he's the only halfback in the squad and if he doesn't play it just shows how clueless Millward actually is.

Ryan was training at Leigh this morning and hasn't heard from Castleford since the squad was announced!

It will be down to who holds Ryans registration with the RFL unlike a Dual reg Cas will have to re-register him to play in their team and Leigh will have had to be informed.