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| So says Ralph Rimmer
Quote As a governing body, we do take a paternalist approach and we have worked alongside Wakefield throughout this process. We take great care of our member clubs.'"
Thats good to know
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| I bet Blackpool/Bramley/Carlisle agree
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| As someone who deals with the RFL on a regular basis that is like a vote of confidence from a premier league chairman about his manager.
Whats the saying " dont trust as far as you can throw "
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| Quote ="FredParky"I bet Blackpool/Bramley/Carlisle agree'"
surely the blame lies also with the people of these towns who could not be bothered to support them
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| Neither do the people of Wrexham but their team received a little help
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| Quote ="FredParky"I bet Blackpool/Bramley/Carlisle agree'"
Are you seriously comparing the Blackpool scenario to Wakefields? No.. please.. do humour me. Please educate a boy on how a team with no fans, no money and no potential that couldn't even afford the £5.75 to write a business plan on the back of a fag packet in a week is comparable and why, in fact, they deserved helping.
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| I don't have to explain anything to anyone especially you.
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| Quote ="Dico"Are you seriously comparing the Blackpool scenario to Wakefields? No.. please.. do humour me. Please educate a boy on how a team with no fans, no money and no potential that couldn't even afford the £5.75 to write a business plan on the back of a fag packet in a week is comparable and why, in fact, they deserved helping.'"
The point is ,they help who they want to help and sod the rest plus the Wakey fans didn't come to the aid of the club did they
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| Quote ="itsatry!"The point is ,they help who they want to help and sod the rest plus the Wakey fans didn't come to the aid of the club did they'"
Not true, 31 of them did. Seriously though it was a crazy last throw of the dice by Ted Richardson which would have been doomed to failure at most RL clubs
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| Quote ="soldiers field"surely the blame lies also with the people of these towns who could not be bothered to support them'"
at last a modicom of sense on this topic - if the fans/local populus can't be bothered to follow their team then maybe it's time to call it a day ?
The RFL is flogging a dead horse if it's intending pumping money into clubs with little or no fan base.Where have all the fans gone ? what's changed over the past 20 years or so ?
If some local patron wants to come along and keep it going just for the sake of it then so be it but if the fan-base isn't there,what's the point ?
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| Quote ="sanjunien"at last a modicom of sense on this topic - if the fans/local populus can't be bothered to follow their team then maybe it's time to call it a day ?
The RFL is flogging a dead horse if it's intending pumping money into clubs with little or no fan base.Where have all the fans gone ? what's changed over the past 20 years or so ?
If some local patron wants to come along and keep it going just for the sake of it then so be it but if the fan-base isn't there,what's the point ?'"
How much of a fanbase have Crusaders got??? Money keeps getting thrown at them though
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| Quote ="sanjunien"at last a modicom of sense on this topic - if the fans/local populus can't be bothered to follow their team then maybe it's time to call it a day ?
The RFL is flogging a dead horse if it's intending pumping money into clubs with little or no fan base.Where have all the fans gone ? what's changed over the past 20 years or so ?
If some local patron wants to come along and keep it going just for the sake of it then so be it but if the fan-base isn't there,what's the point ?'"
Fulham,London Crusaders,London Broncos,Quins ?
Whats the point ? , nobody is interested
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| Quote ="Silent- Assassin"How much of a fanbase have Crusaders got??? Money keeps getting thrown at them though'"
I was actually replying to the thread which mentioned 'Blackpool/Bramley/Carlisle' and the like if you had bothered to read the previous comments - not SL clubs !
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| why are they different?
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| Quote ="FredParky"why are they different?'"
because as soldiers field quite rightly said earlier
'surely the blame lies also with the people of these towns who could not be bothered to support them'
and Dico who said
'Are you seriously comparing the Blackpool scenario to Wakefields? No.. please.. do humour me. Please educate a boy on how a team with no fans, no money and no potential that couldn't even afford the £5.75 to write a business plan on the back of a fag packet in a week is comparable and why, in fact, they deserved helping.'
don't you detect a theme here ?
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| Quote ="sanjunien"because as soldiers field quite rightly said earlier
'surely the blame lies also with the people of these towns who could not be bothered to support them'
and Dico who said
'Are you seriously comparing the Blackpool scenario to Wakefields? No.. please.. do humour me. Please educate a boy on how a team with no fans, no money and no potential that couldn't even afford the £5.75 to write a business plan on the back of a fag packet in a week is comparable and why, in fact, they deserved helping.'
don't you detect a theme here ?'"
As Fred said how are crusaders and Harlequins different?? They have very few fans, so please help me out here with an informal reply
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| The theme is that the Crusaders fan base does not come into any decision concerning them. The Crusaders are worth a few million on the SKY deal. SKY have us over a barrell, drop Quins and Cru and it will be a case of your money will drop drastically or we will pull out all together.
"The blame lies with the people of these towns who won't support them", that includes so called super league clubs, but I've given you the reason why it doesn't include the aforementioned SL clubs at least. Also don't know if you picked it up anywhere, Cru don't even have to apply for 2012-2015, as the RFL have an agreement with them that £175000 will be deducted from their SKY monies each year for the next 4 years. They have therefore ensured that they get their money back from the Cru debacle, yet tens of small businesses will get jack.
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| Quote ="Silent- Assassin"As Fred said how are crusaders and Harlequins different?? They have very few fans, so please help me out here with an informal reply'"
look mate,I don't make the rules any more than you do !
the reason Quins,Cru,Catalans & TO are different is because the RFL deem them to be for whatever reason ! THEY make the rules don't they, so ask THEM !
how 'informal' would you like me to be ?
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| Quote ="sanjunien"look mate,I don't make the rules any more than you do !
the reason Quins,Cru,Catalans & TO are different is because the RFL deem them to be for whatever reason ! THEY make the rules don't they, so ask THEM !
how 'informal' would you like me to be ?'"
FINALLY we get to the heart of the matter. So you are actually agreeing with what we have been saying all along.
I suppose there is only so long you can defend the indefensible....
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| Quote ="sanjunien"because as soldiers field quite rightly said earlier
'surely the blame lies also with the people of these towns who could not be bothered to support them'
and Dico who said
'Are you seriously comparing the Blackpool scenario to Wakefields? No.. please.. do humour me. Please educate a boy on how a team with no fans, no money and no potential that couldn't even afford the £5.75 to write a business plan on the back of a fag packet in a week is comparable and why, in fact, they deserved helping.'
don't you detect a theme here ?'"
I wont quote you all the other replies but what theme do you detect?
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| forget my last you have answered the 'question' there are different 'rules' being applied, all's we ask for is honesty and fair play or at least the ghost of them.
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| Quote ="mapleyther"FINALLY we get to the heart of the matter. So you are actually agreeing with what we have been saying all along.
I suppose there is only so long you can defend the indefensible....'"
there's not much to defend is there - the RFL decides what it wants whether we like it or not - we can only give our opinions as we see them tho' this will never change the fact that the RFL is king and makes & adapts the rules when it sees fit.Different rules apply to different situations it seems.Actual facts ie declining crowds and more clubs in dire financial states seem to matter to the RFL in some cases and not in others.
I neither agree or disagree with any of you at Leigh or anywhere else - I don't claim to know that much about RL but I give my opinions as I see fit at the same time not trying to offend anyone whether you are across the pond or the channel.
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| That doesn't make it right though
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| Quote ="FredParky"That doesn't make it right though'"
quite right but it's beyond our control though,isn't it and that's the problem...
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