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| After watching last nights game v Leeds & the Toronto game last week there's a number of changes needed if Leigh want to reach the top 4.
Firstly Hutchinson needs to be sidelined, his defence is shocking & it was evident Leeds targeted him last night. He lacks pace, doesn't offer any threat & his kicking game is very poor (for example, the attacking kick last week v Toronto to which the winger caught possession, ran 70 metres & Toronto won the game from) . Therefore, for me Hall & Reynolds should be the halfbacks.
As we seen when Hall played 6 he offered more of an attacking threat & linked up very well with Bodene Thompson & it was obvious that Thompson has been wanting someone to offer the distribution that Hall offered him. As we seen Thompson could run effective lines & was outstanding when Hall was supplying him with the right passes.
Secondly, Peter Matatuia should be sidelined. Before his recent move to Toronto we seen how effective he was at full back & now in the past two games hes suddenly being sent off. Therefore, that tells you his mind set is focused elsewhere & for that reason he should be sidelined.
Lastly, for me Leigh's forwards are very poor both in defence & their go forward. For me, they're getting dominated in contact far to easy. If Leigh don't address these issues immediately they can say goodbye to the middle 8's.
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| Peter isn't going to Toronto.
I can't comment on anything else after as I immediately stopped reading at that point,
Peter has not had his best 2 games, or I should say he has not played well in his past game and 10 mins of the second one but no doubting he has been a revelation in all the others,
We are at a stage where it is difficult to say where any player will be plying their trade but IF he was to leave this club Peter has far bigger and more exciting suitors than Toronto. Let's be clear about that. Two blemishes on his copy book does not detract from that.
Including from clubs that have already confirmed enough wins to guarantee the boy SL or NRL action next season.
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| Probably the wrong time to give Purtill the job imho.
Everyone back in their comfort zones since and doing whatever they want.
Should have kept everyone on their toes and commit to deployment come top 4 completion.
Ain't over with yet, but Kieran needs to give his head a wobble.
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"Peter isn't going to Toronto.
I can't comment on anything else after as I immediately stopped reading at that point,
Peter has not had his best 2 games, or I should say he has not played well in his past game and 10 mins of the second one but no doubting he has been a revelation in all the others,
We are at a stage where it is difficult to say where any player will be plying their trade but IF he was to leave this club Peter has far bigger and more exciting suitors than Toronto. Let's be clear about that. Two blemishes on his copy book does not detract from that.
Including from clubs that have already confirmed enough wins to guarantee the boy SL or NRL action next season.'"
Already done and dusted
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| Quote ="Peter Kay"Already done and dusted'"
yep i will second that peter kay
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| Quote ="valvehunter"yep i will second that peter kay'"
Chuckle Brothers haven’t retired then.
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| Quote ="valvehunter"After watching last nights game v Leeds & the Toronto game last week there's a number of changes needed if Leigh want to reach the top 4.
Firstly Hutchinson needs to be sidelined, his defence is shocking & it was evident Leeds targeted him last night. He lacks pace, doesn't offer any threat & his kicking game is very poor (for example, the attacking kick last week v Toronto to which the winger caught possession, ran 70 metres & Toronto won the game from) . Therefore, for me Hall & Reynolds should be the halfbacks.
As we seen when Hall played 6 he offered more of an attacking threat & linked up very well with Bodene Thompson & it was obvious that Thompson has been wanting someone to offer the distribution that Hall offered him. As we seen Thompson could run effective lines & was outstanding when Hall was supplying him with the right passes.
Secondly, Peter Matatuia should be sidelined. Before his recent move to Toronto we seen how effective he was at full back & now in the past two games hes suddenly being sent off. Therefore, that tells you his mind set is focused elsewhere & for that reason he should be sidelined.
Lastly, for me Leigh's forwards are very poor both in defence & their go forward. For me, they're getting dominated in contact far to easy. If Leigh don't address these issues immediately they can say goodbye to the middle 8's.'"
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| Quote ="Peter Kay"Already done and dusted'"
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| Quote ="valvehunter"yep i will second that peter kay'"
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| Quote ="valvehunter"After watching last nights game v Leeds & the Toronto game last week there's a number of changes needed if Leigh want to reach the top 4.
Firstly Hutchinson needs to be sidelined, his defence is shocking & it was evident Leeds targeted him last night. He lacks pace, doesn't offer any threat & his kicking game is very poor (for example, the attacking kick last week v Toronto to which the winger caught possession, ran 70 metres & Toronto won the game from) . Therefore, for me Hall & Reynolds should be the halfbacks.
As we seen when Hall played 6 he offered more of an attacking threat & linked up very well with Bodene Thompson & it was obvious that Thompson has been wanting someone to offer the distribution that Hall offered him. As we seen Thompson could run effective lines & was outstanding when Hall was supplying him with the right passes.
Secondly, Peter Matatuia should be sidelined. Before his recent move to Toronto we seen how effective he was at full back & now in the past two games hes suddenly being sent off. Therefore, that tells you his mind set is focused elsewhere & for that reason he should be sidelined.
Lastly, for me Leigh's forwards are very poor both in defence & their go forward. For me, they're getting dominated in contact far to easy. If Leigh don't address these issues immediately they can say goodbye to the middle 8's.'"
Hutchison's defence was bad against Leeds, but had been good before that. Interesting you say he lacks pace, then reference a break where he chases down an opposition 3/4. Then you mention how B Thompson's lines, without realising he's actually playing on the right edge, linking up with Reynolds.
I wouldn't be against a change in the halves but mainly because Reynolds and Hutchison are too similar. But Hall isn't exactly renowned for a strong kicking game. Plus, if he plays in the halves, who plays in the backline given we'll be missing Dawson and Matautia for a while?
"Peter Matautia should be sidelined" - He will be for a while, by the disciplinary.
The pack has struggled last couple of games. Probably first games we've played a team able to sustain it for the whole game. But you can't change the whole pack. It's up to KP to sort it on the training ground. The one change I would make is to give Acton a couple of games off. Keeps dropping the ball near his own line. Hopefully Bailey will be available next week, and one out of Dezaria / Blagbrough / Patrick needs to come in. On a ability alone, Patrick should be in the team, so whatever issue there is, it needs sorting.
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| Bailey will defo be back this week and I agree about Acton at the moment,not only does he keep making a lot of mistakes he's for ever getting knocked backwards making no yards and getting head knocks so maybe a spell out of the team could help Acton to think about his game and give his head a rest from the knocks and a fresh Acton coming back in a few weeks could work wonders
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| I think you can afford one more loss, any more than that and you won’t get 4th place. I expect you to lose against Toronto, so IMO you need to win all your other league fixtures.
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| Fax Toulouse and Toronto next three games we will know if we not in the top 4 or not. Toronto could stich us up and lose a couple of games if they already cemented Top spot
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| Quote ="Montyburns"Fax Toulouse and Toronto next three games we will know if we not in the top 4 or not. Toronto could stich us up and lose a couple of games if they already cemented Top spot'"
Dewsbury before Toronto but your point remains the same - gotta get a massive game against Fax done and dusted, then move onto the next massive game, then move on ................
ATEOTD we only have ourselves to blame for the position we are in, if we don't make it don't blame Toronto
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| Quote ="Montyburns"Fax Toulouse and Toronto next three games we will know if we not in the top 4 or not. Toronto could stich us up and lose a couple of games if they already cemented Top spot'"
Monty, if we don't win them, do you really think we deserve top 4?
Because I don't.
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| Way we started the season we was always going to struggle to make Top 4 I would of kept the core of last seasons team instead we got a complete new team and it was always going to be hard to gel so quickly but if we do make Top 4 and get promoted it will be better than the great escape
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| Quote ="gunners guns13" Acton at the moment,not only does he keep making a lot of mistakes he's for ever getting knocked backwards making no yards and getting head knocks so maybe a spell out of the team could help Acton to think about his game and give his head a rest from the knocks and a fresh Acton coming back in a few weeks could work wonders'"
Totally agree. He is not having the impact most people (Excluding yours truly) suggested he would in this division. He is struggling to get to the standard required IMHO.
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| Acton is just going through the motions played well to get big deal now he falling off tackles knocking on nearly every set he on the field. Needs to snap out of the rut he in a start playing again
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| Quote ="Montyburns"Acton is just going through the motions played well to get big deal now he falling off tackles knocking on nearly every set he on the field. Needs to snap out of the rut he in a start playing again'"
That's why I take him out of the team for a couple of games and give him the kick up the backside he needs
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| Quote ="gunners guns13"That's why I take him out of the team for a couple of games and give him the kick up the backside he needs'"
Who would you replace him with? We have Bailey hopefully due back for Fax game, but then Baldwinson's loan spell is up, so may need to replace him (Plus, he's hardly set the world alight imo)
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| Quote ="LeythIg"Who would you replace him with? We have Bailey hopefully due back for Fax game, but then Baldwinson's loan spell is up, so may need to replace him (Plus, he's hardly set the world alight imo)'"
Agree, hasn’t brought any more to the team than the guys we have out on loan... Or Dez for that matter
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| Not feeling optimistic about top 4, have failed to be in the mix all year and up and coming suspensions could be a big blow. Do the team have the believe to win the next set of games.
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| Firstly listening to people who actually know something about the game rather than VH and PK who for some reason are constantly allowed to put inflammatory threads on here. The two best teams in the championship are Leigh and Toronto. Even the love of Peter Kay's life Rowley, said he would have been very satisfied with a draw given where Leigh had his team with 18 minutes to go. Short memories some of you - we beat London 3 times home and away. Our half backs have dominated all others they have played and save for the Leeds game our forwards have dominated - including the Salford pack. You seem to forget this is one of the youngest squads we have ever had and they are learning as they go - but have lots of skill and endeavour. I am not one of the Ryan Brierley haters, but WP deliberately tell the world how great he is. Now there is a player who simply cannot tackle and therefore has zero defence and never has the bottle to take the line on, he plays tick and pass. This team can and will IMO make the top 4.
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| Make no mistake, the task is difficult and made all the harder without the banned players
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Let’s not forget, we have lost 1 game in the last 11 league games, to the top of the table, in the last minute after dominating the majority of the game.
2 points out of a playoff place with every team above us with hard games to come, with most having to play us.
I believe we will make the playoffs and be a tough team to beat from there onwards.
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| Just had a good look at remaining fixtures involving top 6 teams. Being realistic these are my finishing positions
Toronto
Toulouse
Featherstone
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If we beat Toronto then we squeeze in.
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