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| Mr Beaumont could you please do something about the mindless, childish totally offensive chanting that is coming out of the North Stand.
There are women and children who go to the ground and also some of us who have a respect for others, you have done wonders for the town and the club but the downside of that is it has attracted some who should no better, and would probably not do take part in it as individuals, the Pied Pipers amongst them calls the tune and they follow like children.
They are doing themselves, the club and the town no favours with the language and obscenities of their chants, I have been a supporter and season ticket holder of this great club for nearly half a century and throughout that time there has always been the banter, but to me this present day stuff is disgusting.
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| I concur , although what Dereck could do to stop it I don't know
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| The team are building a reputation on the pitch but the foul mouthed gobbins are losing it in the North stand. Last night it reached a new peak of chanting obscenity. There is no simple answer but it needs to be stopped.
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| Really? I didn't hear anything worse than at any stadium I have ever visited.
Stop making a mountain out of a mole hill. Yes in an ideal world there would never be any swearing but we don;t live in one
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| And while he's at it can he stop little children giving the middle finger to opposition players !
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| Wow! there has got to be a limit to what Derek Beaumont can do, the Police cant stop this, or any other body of people!
I grew up in a society where foul and abusive language was not tolerated in public and, I believe, in the past people been have fined for such behaviour ! Unfortunately, abusive language is commonly used extensively in our society today, just as Drugs, knives and Guns are becoming common place too!
I remember being at Old Trafford a couple of years ago and there were two young 'ladies' sat next me when the 75,000 crowd burst into song of; Who's that T@@T from Argentina! (referring to former United player Carlos Teves Then Playing for City) the two 'ladies' were up clapping and singing the words as if this was acceptable and normal! to them, it was Also, Teachers are having to deal with this behaviour on a daily basis, not only from the kids, parents too
It isn't funny when you are with young family members and surrounded by obscene language however, asking Derek Beaumont to eradicate it is ridiculous.
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| Quote ="Harry Stottle"Mr Beaumont could you please do something about the mindless, childish totally offensive chanting that is coming out of the North Stand.
There are women and children who go to the ground and also some of us who have a respect for others, you have done wonders for the town and the club but the downside of that is it has attracted some who should no better, and would probably not do take part in it as individuals, the Pied Pipers amongst them calls the tune and they follow like children.
They are doing themselves, the club and the town no favours with the language and obscenities of their chants, I have been a supporter and season ticket holder of this great club for nearly half a century and throughout that time there has always been the banter, but to me this present day stuff is disgusting.'"
I totally agree with your thoughts re this issue. Success brings bigger support for Leigh which is always needed. But at the same time there is the possibility that it attracts followers who give the Club a bad image. Anyone who looks at the Club both on and off the field can see that the level of professionalism has improved beyond anything we have seen before. We are a SL Club in every way. However, the fans also need to match this level of professionalism through their general behaviour and conduct on match days. At the end of the day we all represent Leigh Centurions in whatever capacity that we can. Okay, most of us are not on the Board of Directors or some other important role, and don't have a say in important decisions. But we are a part of the Club in our own small way. We are ambassadors for our great Club. If we behave badly then it reflects not just on the individual responsible for such behaviour, but it also gives Leigh Centurions an equally bad image. The Flute Song is something that should be stuffed in 'Room 101' with immediate effect. Not only is it totally out of date and irrelevant in today's society, it is rude and offensive. Disliking Wigan RL is one thing, but the IRA too? It's not like the IRA are currently in the news, although I am sure they still exist. It's also a crap song. The chances are that if you asked one of the 'vocalists' who sing that song what they know about the IRA, or even what the initials stand for, they wouldn't know a thing. Rubbish like this, as you rightly point out, rubs off on our kids also and sets a bad example of what it is to be a proper well behaved supporter. The new songs that we have recently adopted are much better and hopefully the fans will stick with these.
I went to the Wigan game a few weeks ago and the same old hate chanting and general abuse reared its ugly head again. Friendly banter is one thing, but some of the abuse that was shouted at the Wigan fans, albeit they had no chance of hearing it because they were too far away, was just pathetic. The people in question were adults and I wonder if they ever realise just how bad they appear to others who were there just to watch what was a good tough game of RL.
I think that the best that Derek can do regarding the issue of bad behaviour by some fans is to make a press release through the main Leigh Centurions website on his Blog page, or through the Club matchday programme. Fans need to understand the role that they play by supporting the Club and the negative impact that poor behaviour has. We are being watched by the RFL and we need to show that we deserve to be at the top table for all the right reasons. It's not all about getting behind the team on the field. The tannoy message warning about bad language is something that the Club will have to maintain to show to the RFL and other visiting Clubs that it is something they are trying to sort out. Derek can only do so much and he is doing plenty from what I can see. We all have a responsibility to project a positive image of our great Club and most of us thankfully do.
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| Quote ="ItchyandScratchy"I totally agree with your thoughts re this issue. Success brings bigger support for Leigh which is always needed. But at the same time there is the possibility that it attracts followers who give the Club a bad image. Anyone who looks at the Club both on and off the field can see that the level of professionalism has improved beyond anything we have seen before. We are a SL Club in every way. However, the fans also need to match this level of professionalism through their general behaviour and conduct on match days. At the end of the day we all represent Leigh Centurions in whatever capacity that we can. Okay, most of us are not on the Board of Directors or some other important role, and don't have a say in important decisions. But we are a part of the Club in our own small way. We are ambassadors for our great Club. If we behave badly then it reflects not just on the individual responsible for such behaviour, but it also gives Leigh Centurions an equally bad image. The Flute Song is something that should be stuffed in 'Room 101' with immediate effect. Not only is it totally out of date and irrelevant in today's society, it is rude and offensive. Disliking Wigan RL is one thing, but the IRA too? It's not like the IRA are currently in the news, although I am sure they still exist. It's also a crap song. The chances are that if you asked one of the 'vocalists' who sing that song what they know about the IRA, or even what the initials stand for, they wouldn't know a thing. Rubbish like this, as you rightly point out, rubs off on our kids also and sets a bad example of what it is to be a proper well behaved supporter. The new songs that we have recently adopted are much better and hopefully the fans will stick with these.
I went to the Wigan game a few weeks ago and the same old hate chanting and general abuse reared its ugly head again. Friendly banter is one thing, but some of the abuse that was shouted at the Wigan fans, albeit they had no chance of hearing it because they were too far away, was just pathetic. The people in question were adults and I wonder if they ever realise just how bad they appear to others who were there just to watch what was a good tough game of RL.
I think that the best that Derek can do regarding the issue of bad behaviour by some fans is to make a press release through the main Leigh Centurions website on his Blog page, or through the Club matchday programme. Fans need to understand the role that they play by supporting the Club and the negative impact that poor behaviour has. We are being watched by the RFL and we need to show that we deserve to be at the top table for all the right reasons. It's not all about getting behind the team on the field. The tannoy message warning about bad language is something that the Club will have to maintain to show to the RFL and other visiting Clubs that it is something they are trying to sort out. Derek can only do so much and he is doing plenty from what I can see. We all have a responsibility to project a positive image of our great Club and most of us thankfully do.'"
Here here. It was a bit much at the Wigan game and last night. I remember 6 years ago expressing my disgust of that song on this very board only to be shot down and ridiculed by some leading members of it. The main reason for it being justified was that the players loved to sing it. They sung it because they thought it was the fans favourite anthem. Well that is were we start, with them and the owner. Get them to ask for it to stop and the fans will follow.
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| Last night was bad, worst I've heard at LSV. The continuous chant of "You're F***ing sh**" was pathetic.....What's wrong with "can we play you every week" ??!!
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| I agree with this. Took my 7 year old to Wigan and was wincing throughout.
The flute song does not bother me too much as I grew up with it and it is a bit of a tradition. Would I rather it not be sung? Yes.
Casual, appalling language chanted throughout is much worse.
Openly expressing hatred for anyone is just appalling. How is it OK to teach kids that you can hate someone because they live 7 miles down the road?
If I go to another away game with him, I won't be sitting with the Leigh fans and I'd expect many other parents to make the same choice.
The club has already done a bit by promoting a new song and should keep up the pressure.
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"Last night was bad, worst I've heard at LSV. The continuous chant of "You're F***ing sh**" was pathetic.....What's wrong with "can we play you every week" ??!!'"
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| Cas were in full voice with the 'king sheeite' chant v Leeds, this is not a Leigh problem and it would be great if society's use of certain words was eliminated. Like to see the East stand central open every game as a family stand personally
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| Quote ="maurice"Cas were in full voice with the 'king sheeite' chant v Leeds, this is not a Leigh problem and it would be great if society's use of certain words was eliminated. Like to see the East stand central open every game as a family stand personally'"
Totally agree.
I don't think it is necessarily a Leigh Centurions problem (the same pathetic chants were all evident from Wigan supporters during the SKY game last week - Chrystal clear through the TV) but it is embarrassing and it does impact on our club unfortunately when our supporters chant it.
In my day a Warrington club captain would not have said 'ar4se' in front of a lady either but the world has moved on , not for the better I hasten to add.
Let's look on the bright side. Thankfully we were only playing a club from just down Winwick Lane otherwise we would have had to endure the appalling saville chant on top, from that section of our supporters devoid of half a brain cell.
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| Warrington also chanted at Gaz Hock, but telling the north stand to stop swearing isn't going to stop the issue . Personally I think the North Stand has been vocal and has helped the players raise their game in recent weeks. Some of it is unnecessary but it's not going to go away . What happened to the Icelandic Chant ?
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| Quote ="ItchyandScratchy"I totally agree with your thoughts re this issue. Success brings bigger support for Leigh which is always needed. But at the same time there is the possibility that it attracts followers who give the Club a bad image. Anyone who looks at the Club both on and off the field can see that the level of professionalism has improved beyond anything we have seen before. We are a SL Club in every way. However, the fans also need to match this level of professionalism through their general behaviour and conduct on match days. At the end of the day we all represent Leigh Centurions in whatever capacity that we can. Okay, most of us are not on the Board of Directors or some other important role, and don't have a say in important decisions. But we are a part of the Club in our own small way. We are ambassadors for our great Club. If we behave badly then it reflects not just on the individual responsible for such behaviour, but it also gives Leigh Centurions an equally bad image. The Flute Song is something that should be stuffed in 'Room 101' with immediate effect. Not only is it totally out of date and irrelevant in today's society, it is rude and offensive. Disliking Wigan RL is one thing, but the IRA too? It's not like the IRA are currently in the news, although I am sure they still exist. It's also a crap song. The chances are that if you asked one of the 'vocalists' who sing that song what they know about the IRA, or even what the initials stand for, they wouldn't know a thing. Rubbish like this, as you rightly point out, rubs off on our kids also and sets a bad example of what it is to be a proper well behaved supporter. The new songs that we have recently adopted are much better and hopefully the fans will stick with these.
I went to the Wigan game a few weeks ago and the same old hate chanting and general abuse reared its ugly head again. Friendly banter is one thing, but some of the abuse that was shouted at the Wigan fans, albeit they had no chance of hearing it because they were too far away, was just pathetic. The people in question were adults and I wonder if they ever realise just how bad they appear to others who were there just to watch what was a good tough game of RL.
I think that the best that Derek can do regarding the issue of bad behaviour by some fans is to make a press release through the main Leigh Centurions website on his Blog page, or through the Club matchday programme. Fans need to understand the role that they play by supporting the Club and the negative impact that poor behaviour has. We are being watched by the RFL and we need to show that we deserve to be at the top table for all the right reasons. It's not all about getting behind the team on the field. The tannoy message warning about bad language is something that the Club will have to maintain to show to the RFL and other visiting Clubs that it is something they are trying to sort out. Derek can only do so much and he is doing plenty from what I can see. We all have a responsibility to project a positive image of our great Club and most of us thankfully do.'"
An excellent response to this thread.
I take my 85 year old mother to all the matches - we have season tickets in the west stand - I find it an embarrassment with some of the chanting which is quite frankly boring.
Many of the new chants are funny and sound great even the dodgy rendition of "something good"
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"Last night was bad, worst I've heard at LSV. The continuous chant of "You're F***ing sh**" was pathetic.....What's wrong with "can we play you every week" ??!!'"
Unfortunately this seems to be the latest trendy generic football song that has made it's way into the game, just stick to 'you're not very good' or 'can we play you every week', same message just not as offending to some.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"And while he's at it can he stop little children giving the middle finger to opposition players !'"
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| Free Speech. We all pay money to go, we all can vent or cheer how we wish to.
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| Agree with Neil.
Open up the east stand.
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| Does the East Stand have a sound shield in it to stop the chants from the North Stand?
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| So some on here respond with, other clubs do it so we will to, that makes it OK then does it? Whenever has two wrongs made something OK and acceptable.
People have also posed the question what can Derek do about it, well he could appeal to the songbirds to tame it down somewhat, then if they have any respect for him for what he has done for the club they might just take heed, then again.............
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| They will say it costs money to open East Stand, but I have been on opposition websites and quite a lot of opposition fans are not happy with being stuck behind the posts. I think the extra cost of opening East would be offset by extra away fans attending. I also would think some Leigh fans might fancy a change of scenery as well.
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| Don't think its just a case of lets open the East.There will be stadia regulations in place as in the East can only be applied for if either North or South are full/reaching max capacity.
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| Quote ="Markypants"Warrington also chanted at Gaz Hock, but telling the north stand to stop swearing isn't going to stop the issue . Personally I think the North Stand has been vocal and has helped the players raise their game in recent weeks. Some of it is unnecessary but it's not going to go away . What happened to the Icelandic Chant ?'"
Yea what has happened to the Icelantic Chant, done right its very intimidating and I think we got it just about right against Hudds in the middle 8's last year.
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| Being a Westander, I can honestly say it doesn't bother me,I never swear in life so wouldn't do it at Sports games,but we are not talking about a few fans here, we have around 500- 1000 in the North Stand singing the Flute Song,or the Savile song so they are popular,now I acknowledge Derek has done some great things at the LSV since taking over,but he can't feed the North Stand with 5 loaves and 2 small fish, neither can he stop the North Stand singing these songs, we have tannoy announcements every game letting us know that foul and abusive language will not be tolerated,but what is the answer?Eject all the guilty fans it would look empty after, it simply can't be done,swearing isn't nice for kids to hear,as for Women they sometimes swear worse than men,there is NO solution,let's concentrate on watching good Rugby, and stop expecting even Derek to perform miracles.
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