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| I am currently watching the Salford - Warrington game and feel we still have a slim chance of survival. I know it is a slim chance, but Salford are looking in trouble and not likely to win many games. I also remember that they beat us, but I still see them as beatable.
That said we have to start working for 80 minutes and not dropping our heads when we go behind. I also believe that JD needs help from an experienced SL coach ASAP.
Yes we need players as well, but I don’t see where they can come from right now.
This season is not over, but this weekends performance may change my outlook.
Call me crazy I know
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| Quote ="Vancouver Leyther"I am currently watching the Salford - Warrington game and feel we still have a slim chance of survival. I know it is a slim chance, but Salford are looking in trouble and not likely to win many games. I also remember that they beat us, but I still see them as beatable.
That said we have to start working for 80 minutes and not dropping our heads when we go behind. I also believe that JD needs help from an experienced SL coach ASAP.
Yes we need players as well, but I don’t see where they can come from right now.
This season is not over, but this weekends performance may change my outlook.
Call me crazy I know
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VL , I’m in full agreement with you , but something needs to be done as soon as possible before it’s to late , JD needs to realise his job is on the line , and take action NOW no room for sentiment , he has to change things , Reynolds isn’t working at 6 , his days are numbered , look at other SL sixes , no comparison , we need a bit of luck with injuries , get some troops back, and try to put 80 minutes in not 40 .
The players are fighting for their lives as well , for me some are not SL standard , if McCarthey ,Helliwell, Sau ,and Wildie left the Club , they wouldn’t be in SL ,Cmon JD be ruthless , we need wins and fast , some fans took for granted wins against Wakey , Hull KR , Salford , and Hudds would happen , well they won’t , time is ticking by let’s act before it’s to late .
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| Quote ="The Charlie Caroli"VL , I’m in full agreement with you , but something needs to be done as soon as possible before it’s to late , JD needs to realise his job is on the line , and take action NOW no room for sentiment , he has to change things , Reynolds isn’t working at 6 , his days are numbered , look at other SL sixes , no comparison , we need a bit of luck with injuries , get some troops back, and try to put 80 minutes in not 40 .
The players are fighting for their lives as well , for me some are not SL standard , if McCarthey ,Helliwell, Sau ,and Wildie left the Club , they wouldn’t be in SL ,Cmon JD be ruthless , we need wins and fast , some fans took for granted wins against Wakey , Hull KR , Salford , and Hudds would happen , well they won’t , time is ticking by let’s act before it’s to late .'"
I agree with your comment that those players wouldn't get in other super league sides but what other options do we have? We were short of quality going in to the season now we are just short full stop. I fail to see what bringing in another coach would achieve. The team pretty much picks itself and, quite simply, it's the worst in super league.
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| Quote ="leyther"I agree with your comment that those players wouldn't get in other super league sides but what other options do we have? We were short of quality going in to the season now we are just short full stop. I fail to see what bringing in another coach would achieve. The team pretty much picks itself and, quite simply, it's the worst in super league.'"
Leyther I didn’t say get rid of JD , I said his job is on the line ,the longer the losing run continues the more pressure on him , I’m sure John knows this .
Again I agree about where players are going to be found , SL Clubs are reluctant to loan out players to competitors ,and we have injuries ,it’s a catch 22 situation , but we knew this from the start , on Sunday I watched a couple of players who seemed just going through the motions , then pointing fingers after tries were scored , they are a team , play like one , and play as their lives depended on a win .
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| I hope we really are still in this and that recruitment of next seasons squad is well underway so as to avoid a repeat of the current situation.
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| Quote ="The Charlie Caroli"Leyther I didn’t say get rid of JD , I said his job is on the line ,the longer the losing run continues the more pressure on him , I’m sure John knows this .
Again I agree about where players are going to be found , SL Clubs are reluctant to loan out players to competitors ,and we have injuries ,it’s a catch 22 situation , but we knew this from the start , on Sunday I watched a couple of players who seemed just going through the motions , then pointing fingers after tries were scored , they are a team , play like one , and play as their lives depended on a win .'"
I understand what you're saying, I just don't see how Duffy's job can be on the line under the circumstances we currently find ourselves in. Only 19 named in the squad, and only two specialist props. Other teams in the competition, in the meantime, are leaving players out of their playing squads that would walk in to our side. It's like a boxer going in to a fight with one hand tied behind his back and people wondering why he's been knocked out...
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| Quote ="leyther"I understand what you're saying, I just don't see how Duffy's job can be on the line under the circumstances we currently find ourselves in. Only 19 named in the squad, and only two specialist props. Other teams in the competition, in the meantime, are leaving players out of their playing squads that would walk in to our side. It's like a boxer going in to a fight with one hand tied behind his back and people wondering why he's been knocked out...'"
Leyther we all know the difficulty JD is having at the moment , both with injuries and with results , but as the season progresses the pressure will become more and more ,fans don’t want to see a losing team and they won’t pay 30 quid either .
It happened with Abram ,and happened with Jukes ,I don’t know how long Derek will keep his patience ,rumour has it there is no relegation this year , I hope it is right , because it’s the only way we will be saved ,without counting the players money , JD has a back room staff of at least 10 on wages it can’t carry on .Apparently Gildart has signed for West Tigers and they want Ian Thorniley , I don’t know where the players are coming from .
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| Quote ="The Charlie Caroli"Leyther we all know the difficulty JD is having at the moment , both with injuries and with results , but as the season progresses the pressure will become more and more ,fans don’t want to see a losing team and they won’t pay 30 quid either .
It happened with Abram ,and happened with Jukes ,I don’t know how long Derek will keep his patience ,rumour has it there is no relegation this year , I hope it is right , because it’s the only way we will be saved ,without counting the players money , JD has a back room staff of at least 10 on wages it can’t carry on .Apparently Gildart has signed for West Tigers and they want Ian Thorniley , I don’t know where the players are coming from .'"
Charlie.. come on Gildart?? Derek is lost gone and absent...
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| Quote ="atomic"Charlie.. come on Gildart?? Derek is lost gone and absent...'"
What do you mean re “Derek is lost, gone and absent ?”
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| Quote ="atomic"Charlie.. come on Gildart?? Derek is lost gone and absent...'"
Atomic ,I meant Gildart has signed for West Tigers and Wigan want Thorniley to replace him , bad when we need players not let them go .
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| Quote ="The Charlie Caroli"Atomic ,I meant Gildart has signed for West Tigers and Wigan want Thorniley to replace him , bad when we need players not let them go .'"
Big problems at Leigh Charlie. Not sure why they are not ploughing money in to keep him. It’s as though nobody is bothered what happens.
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| We are definitely not still in this, you can clearly see the players are now not playing for Duffy.
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| Very very poor Leigh team at Hull KR take out Ioni, Hood and Brierley and send the rest to the East and Miners that is about their level.
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| Quote ="Harry Stottle"Very very poor Leigh team at Hull KR take out Ioni, Hood and Brierley and send the rest to the East and Miners that is about their level.'"
did you go ? who played well?
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| Quote ="The Charlie Caroli"Leyther we all know the difficulty JD is having at the moment , both with injuries and with results , but as the season progresses the pressure will become more and more ,fans don’t want to see a losing team and they won’t pay 30 quid either .
It happened with Abram ,and happened with Jukes ,I don’t know how long Derek will keep his patience ,rumour has it there is no relegation this year , I hope it is right , because it’s the only way we will be saved ,without counting the players money , JD has a back room staff of at least 10 on wages it can’t carry on .Apparently Gildart has signed for West Tigers and they want Ian Thorniley , I don’t know where the players are coming from .'"
I am hearing the same regards no relegation & 2 up !
I agree with your points about D.B & his patience with Duffy & also the back room staff.
Why do Leigh always have jobs for the boys ?
Cunningham & Son
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It's like some dodgy local traders !
& what is Carvell doing ?
My concerns (other than the immediately obvious) are that *if* there is to be no relegation & Derek knows it, will he still stick with Duffy, even though J.D is way out of his depth ? Also, if D.B knows there is no relegation, can he somehow convey this to potential signings for next season (without breaking confidence) ? Will available player's come to Leigh not knowing if Leigh will be in Super League ? It causes so many problems.
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"I am hearing the same regards no relegation & 2 up !
I agree with your points about D.B & his patience with Duffy & also the back room staff.
Why do Leigh always have jobs for the boys ?
Cunningham & Son
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It's like some dodgy local traders !
& what is Carvell doing ?
My concerns (other than the immediately obvious) are that *if* there is to be no relegation & Derek knows it, will he still stick with Duffy, even though J.D is way out of hus depth ? Also, if D.B knows there is no relegation, can he somehow convey this to potential signings for next season (without breaking confidence) ? Will available player's come to Leigh not knowing if Leigh will be in Super League ? It causes so many problems.'"
Mr Beaumont’s lack of communication is costing the club more than he understands. Even if does know what’s happening next season, this seasons showing is leaving Leigh with 1600 fans. Good luck to him getting the other 4K back should they remain in SL.
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| WE ARE STILL IN THIS.
If that is referring to the brown smelly stuff, then I agree right up to our necks in it!
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| But have we started recruiting for next season?
Why the secrecy? Fans of professional sport need positive news items to hang onto.
I read on another board that there is a need for player recruitment has to be conducted in secrecy. Wot just like it is in football? Or is it to fuel the feeling of self-importance of those in the ‘need to know’
Once the inevitable happens, is it expected that the current squad will extend their one year contracts? If so that will leave us in exactly the same position.
Lack of communication is making a bad situation worse.
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| The naivety which is and has been displayed in the way the club is being run is beyond belief.
And this after so much effort and impressive communication was put into the Super league application.
The club needs to come clean with the fans with an explanation of what is going on and what is going to be done about it.
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| Quote ="J7P1"The naivety which is and has been displayed in the way the club is being run is beyond belief.
And this after so much effort and impressive communication was put into the Super league application.
The club needs to come clean with the fans with an explanation of what is going on and what is going to be done about it.'"
I think it is all heading to Mr Beaumont's exit at the end of the season.
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| Obviously another disappointing result for the boys must be tough for them. With just one specialist prop named in the team was always going to be a tough ask. Seems odd we are not loaning a couple of forwards unless no one is prepared to loan to fellow SL clubs. With regard to next season even if discussions are going on re a 14 or 2x10 leagues assume all owners will be blocked from disclosing info until there is an official announcement. If there is going to be a change clubs need to know now so they can recruit appropriately.
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| From my own personal point of view.
I'm not going to watch Leigh live currently because I can't justify £30 to myself but mainly because I can't be bothered with the current nonsense regulations due to the virus of unspecified origin. If everything returns to as it was, come 21st June, then I'd hope for a sensible drop in price as more fans can get in and be, well, fans.
I've seen terrible Leigh teams in the past, this has never deterred me from turning season after season but of course I've watched them for decades, churning out heavy loss after heavy loss isn't going to inspire newbies or really lapsed fans from returning.
Leyther14 has spelled it out, those that know what the plan is for next season have not and can not speak about it. Even speaking to my Wigan supporting mates, they are convinced there will be no relegation this season though. If there is, then I still don't know what the point of all this was.
If there isn't, then we can kick on come the autumn.
Though I still have this nagging doubt that even if no relegation has been promised there is a heavy asterisk hanging over it, which I fully expect the RFL to renege on when push comes to shove. I'll remain pessimistic until then.
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| It seems to me the Clubs silence at the moment is very worrying , in today’s League Express we are the ONLY SL club with no mention on any news , Derek has gone silent as has JD , nothing on players injury progress or missing players ,IE Gerrard ,and Wallace ,we play Wakey next and a loss looks inevitable , after 8 games our season looks over .
Nobody seems to know what’s going on , our fitnesss levels look woeful , we have a bigger back room staff than Boris has Cabinet Ministers , and our Coach although a really nice guy , clearly isn’t up to the job .
I’m sure everybody is worried , the silence is deafening ,30 quid entrance , no wonder not many want to attend .Cmon Leigh give the fans some news as to what is happening .
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| Quote ="J7P1"The naivety which is and has been displayed in the way the club is being run is beyond belief.
And this after so much effort and impressive communication was put into the Super league application.
The club needs to come clean with the fans with an explanation of what is going on and what is going to be done about it.'"
I think it is all heading to Mr Beaumont's exit at the end of the season.
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| Quote ="Harry Stottle"I think it is all heading to Mr Beaumont's exit at the end of the season.'"
I doubt that would work in his favour. If P&R is put on hold. Retaining SL status supports his business, sponsorship and international commitments within his business. He wouldn’t get a better marketing deal from anywhere for the price.
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