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| Amid all the doom and gloom, yesterday's performance was excellent from every lad who pulled on the shirt.
It was also great to see the players who have recently left supporting their mates.
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| Quote ="Markski55"Amid all the doom and gloom, yesterday's performance was excellent from every lad who pulled on the shirt.
It was also great to see the players who have recently left supporting their mates.'"
Agreed.
From 34-10, two weeks ago, to 68-6 yesterday, against the same opposition, was a good measure of how a 'new' team has improved. Excellent defence, under pressure, and skilful attacking play, with a winger receiving four try scoring passes. If only..........................!
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| Quote ="Alan"Agreed.
From 34-10, two weeks ago, to 68-6 yesterday, against the same opposition, was a good measure of how a 'new' team has improved. Excellent defence, under pressure, and skilful attacking play, with a winger receiving four try scoring passes. If only..........................!'"
not really measurable Alan but i do agree that it was a good performance and the fans first class
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| Again the score against was the real bonus , 2 games , 3 try's against , 1 an interception and the one this week from a blatant obstruction by the ref
Very happy with the performance , looking forward to the Barrow game
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| Quote ="EVO105"not really measurable Alan but i do agree that it was a good performance and the fans first class'"
Hi EVO,
I reckon it was directly measurable though,against our previous game against the same opposition, when the team only managed to train once together, the day before the game.
I wish we had shown similar understanding in defence, earlier in the season. (e.g. we scored 70+ at Sheffield, but also conceded 20+)
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| Quote ="Alan"Hi EVO,
I reckon it was directly measurable though,against our previous game against the same opposition, when the team only managed to train once together, the day before the game.
I wish we had shown similar understanding in defence, earlier in the season. (e.g. we scored 70+ at Sheffield, but also conceded 20+)'"
Organisation is the key , by the person at the back , as I said very early in the season " who gave Craig Hall the no1 shirt ? "
And who dropped McNally ?
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| Quote ="Alan"Hi EVO,
I reckon it was directly measurable though,against our previous game against the same opposition, when the team only managed to train once together, the day before the game.
I wish we had shown similar understanding in defence, earlier in the season. (e.g. we scored 70+ at Sheffield, but also conceded 20+)'"
I know you do as you previously posted, different teams different game different circumstances so it's my opinion as not directly measurable
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| Quote ="EVO105"I know you do as you previously posted, different teams different game different circumstances so it's my opinion as not directly measurable'"
Opinions, opinions, eh?
So, he says, pushing his luck, do you not think Sunday's performance was an improvement on the previous game against Sheffield?
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| Quote ="Alan"Opinions, opinions, eh?
So, he says, pushing his luck, do you not think Sunday's performance was an improvement on the previous game against Sheffield?
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I do but following your logic the challenge cup is already won
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| Quote ="EVO105"I do but following your logic the challenge cup is already won'"
I wish! (and didn't the owner promise that too? )
However, I merely comment on progress from the first Sheffield one to yesterday's. I'm wise enough (cynical enough ?) not to necessarily expect that improvement to continue!
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Organisation is the key , by the person at the back , as I said very early in the season " who gave Craig Hall the no1 shirt ? "
And who dropped McNally ?'"
Your certainly right, organisation is the Key and, who is that has been entrusted with the 'Key'? Ben Reynolds is the name ! I'm not a fan of Jack Owens however, Kieron please don't put Reynolds back at Stand Off you saw how Hutchison flourished when he had sole responsibility on Sunday. If you must play Reynolds, play him at Centre you never know, he might turn out like Matty Dawson who has been a revelation at Centre and Dawson's play with Bergal is really exciting to watch
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| Quote ="kirkhall"Your certainly right, organisation is the Key and, who is that has been entrusted with the 'Key'? Ben Reynolds is the name ! I'm not a fan of Jack Owens however, Kieron please don't put Reynolds back at Stand Off you saw how Hutchison flourished when he had sole responsibility on Sunday. If you must play Reynolds, play him at Centre you never know, he might turn out like Matty Dawson who has been a revelation at Centre and Dawson's play with Bergal is really exciting to watch
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Was Reynolds injured.?Or was he doing a Ryan Bailey?Derek has stated a few players have refused to accept closure or their contracts,and some have been as ked to play on reduced terms.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Was Reynolds injured.?Or was he doing a Ryan Bailey?Derek has stated a few players have refused to accept closure or their contracts,and some have been as ked to play on reduced terms.'"
Ben got a knee injury in the first Sheffield game, stayed on the pitch, limping, and then got a bang on his other thigh, forcing him off. He was limping very badly at the end of the game, (on both legs!) so I would assume he missed last weekend because of injury.
Didn't the club receive offers for both Ben & Liam Hood? I think I read that those offers were refused by the club, as being too low, so that was the club's choice to keep those two players. Curiously, Ryan Bailey (and Jamie Acton) appeared in the stand, after half time.
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| Quote ="Alan"Ben got a knee injury in the first Sheffield game, stayed on the pitch, limping, and then got a bang on his other thigh, forcing him off. He was limping very badly at the end of the game, (on both legs!) so I would assume he missed last weekend because of injury.
Didn't the club receive offers for both Ben & Liam Hood? I think I read that those offers were refused by the club, as being too low, so that was the club's choice to keep those two players. Curiously, Ryan Bailey (and Jamie Acton) appeared in the stand, after half time.'"
I hadn't heard about Ben, but was told about Ryan Bailey ,I didn't see him at the game on Sunday.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"I hadn't heard about Ben, but was told about Ryan Bailey ,I didn't see him at the game on Sunday.'"
He (Bailey) was there with Acton, and sat with our departed players - Mata'utia, Hansen and Bodene Thompson. Perhaps that's an omen? I didn't see Ben, but was told he was excused to attend a family event. (but that's hearsay and I shouldn't repeat it on here! )
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| Quote ="kirkhall"Your certainly right, organisation is the Key and, who is that has been entrusted with the 'Key'? Ben Reynolds is the name ! I'm not a fan of Jack Owens however, Kieron please don't put Reynolds back at Stand Off you saw how Hutchison flourished when he had sole responsibility on Sunday. If you must play Reynolds, play him at Centre you never know, he might turn out like Matty Dawson who has been a revelation at Centre and Dawson's play with Bergal is really exciting to watch
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I was referring to our defensive display , 2 games , just 3 try's conceded , it took Rochdale about 8 minutes to achieve that
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Was Reynolds injured.?Or was he doing a Ryan Bailey?Derek has stated a few players have refused to accept closure or their contracts,and some have been as ked to play on reduced terms.'"
Ben Reynolds is not costing the club a lot of money. In fact he is on a mere pittance, compared to some.
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| Rhys Evans is not for budging on his contract I would make him watch every minute he as played for us and tell him to show me something that warrants full pay
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| I dont understand why players are getting slated by the fans regarding contracts somebody at the club dished out big contracts at its backfired.
Like me i am sure they all have family , bills etc etc to pay, if they dont have a club to go to what do you expect them to do ??
I know what i would do if my employer did the same to me and it wouldnt be voluntary making myself unemployed.
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| Quote ="herald 2"I dont understand why players are getting slated by the fans regarding contracts somebody at the club dished out big contracts at its backfired.
Like me i am sure they all have family , bills etc etc to pay, if they dont have a club to go to what do you expect them to do ??
I know what i would do if my employer did the same to me and it wouldnt be voluntary making myself unemployed.'"
I agree herald the players are just looking after themselves and who can blame them the way the club has treated the players last year and this year,its the people who gave them the contracts and agreed to sign them without doing their homework on how often a player is injured or there personality because looking at some of the lads this year there is no way u'd look to sign them on the money some of them were on this year with their history
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| Quote ="gunners guns13"I agree herald the players are just looking after themselves and who can blame them the way the club has treated the players last year and this year,its the people who gave them the contracts and agreed to sign them without doing their homework on how often a player is injured or there personality because looking at some of the lads this year there is no way u'd look to sign them on the money some of them were on this year with their history'"
i agree with all here, its a shame the position we are in but the primary reason for this is poor contracts
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| Understand the players' point of view, however if we're comparing with typical employers, I'm sure a lot of companies would have you on at least a final written warning with an absence record like Evans' or Acton's
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| Quote ="gunners guns13"I agree herald the players are just looking after themselves and who can blame them the way the club has treated the players last year and this year,its the people who gave them the contracts and agreed to sign them without doing their homework on how often a player is injured or there personality because looking at some of the lads this year there is no way u'd look to sign them on the money some of them were on this year with their history'"
i agree with all here, its a shame the position we are in but the primary reason for this is poor contracts
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| Employers cannot give out disciplinary action to players / Staff with injuries or illness ..as with Rhys Evans
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| Quote ="herald 2"Employers cannot give out disciplinary action to players / Staff with injuries or illness ..as with Rhys Evans'"
Yes they can. Not saying Leigh can, or should, given the nature of contract signed. But employers can discipline staff for poor attendance, and plenty do. So, while players are entitled to stick to their contract, I'm not going along with the argument of "How would you feel if your employer..." when it comes to Evans and Acton.
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