Well lads n lasses , we've finally hit rock bottom

, looks like we need to sort out the pies , is there a better time to play them ?

Merely temporary.

Aye its about time we beat the crust munchers in a competitive match

two wis in seven days , puts you lads bottom 5 pints adrift our game at home will see one of us relagated, i hope you beat wigan , seriously

Relegated - what you on about you plank, have you heard of the middle 8s

Going to be tough now , big chance for the drop.

You are of course assuming that we start where we are, do you not think we are capable of putting some wins together before the end of the regular season

Go on, be positive- you know you want to

I'd love us to win a few more - especially against Wigan, Warrington & Widnes. To do so, however, we need to discover some attacking flair pretty soon!

Might have to travel to hull kr and tolouse at this rate it's going to be tough ask if don't bring the correct personnel in to help us avoid the drop. As for the right time to play the pie men I think it is I honestly think the way they playing at the moment they are best chance of a win this season

Need strike second rower - really shows how good Rene was last year, gives the halves so much more to work with. Paterson will be ok with a few games under his belt
Be interesting to see what Clare gives us when he comes back
Tonga would be nice but won't hold my breath
A full set of forwards will bully the 8s
Brown at FB, although McNally seems to be toughening up
Higham has been a massive loss - leads by example

And we didn't have much attacking flair against saints Hudds or wire, but forwards dominated

True Alan .... true !

I would like NJ to release the reigns a bit on Thursday night, to go into that changing room & simply say, respect the ball, play tough & cut the penalties, but most of all play with some freedom, try things, a flick pass, a chip chase, anything but go out there & have fun together playing rugby & don't leave anything in the locker !

Andy can never be positive, can not think why.,

Anyway I would be worried ever so more if I thought we were not being competitive at this level, If we did not have 6 or 7 first choice players to return from injury, If we had not signed a new NRL half back and if the main contenders to our SL place were proving their own SL credentials by showing they can win against Featherstone.

Then yes a big big chance.

that's not how to play wigan .you have to win the forward battle and slow the play the ball down , starve them of possession

You took the huff when you were outed (correctly or not I couldn't give a monkeys) so I would be a little more graceful f I was you

Agree with the rest of your post, spot on, and stick to what you do best

Wigan still showed enough to take care of us lets be honest

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Dammed auto spell correct.

Agreed, they have PACE in their backs, we don't.

For me I really do think we can beat Wigan on Thursday,I've been with the Wigan Carolis this afternoon and they think the same.However Shaun Wane is a very good,he won't be blaming their long injury list ,the Refs performance, or so many games in so few days,that's not his style,Wigan will come at us at 100 mph and try to blow us away early,hopefully we can keep up with them and compete for the full 80 minites.
Widnes are now improving so bottom spot will be ours,we must now focus on the middle 8s I really do think we will survive,but next season we need a bit of a clear out , I think giving 2 year contracts to a few players has been a bit of a mistake.Onwards and upwards though.

WOAH THERE CHARLES !!!





Not Shaun Whine's style ?

Now then Charlie lad, I really like you as a member of this fine board but, "not his style" ! You've got to be joking right ?

Never have I seen a Coach Whine as much about injuries as Shaun Whine (maybe McDermott) he never stops whining about "half the salary cap in the stands" waffle, waffle etc. This from the Coach of a Club that still has several Internationals on the pitch.

Compare & contrast to NJ who I think I have heard/seen only once mention injuries & suspensions. Wigan with a squad of seemingly 40 & Leigh with a squad of 27/28.

That guy Whine needs a bit of a reality check, can't stand the fat whining F€CK€R !!!

In other news, I agree, think we can do them Thursday night, but allow them to chuck it about & run along the line unchallenged like they did against Hull F.C & they will rip us apart, play smart & we will have a famous victory against the Old Foe !!!

at the start of the season,all i wanted was for us to be competative,apart from two losses to cas of 38 & 28 points i think we have achieved that so far.with a little more composure and a little more good luck,the tide will turn.i am not worried,lifes too short.KEEP THE FAITH.get behind the team,i will even put my prawn sarnie down on thursday and shout abuse at the pies.come on guys stop being so negative.UP THE COMICS.

I'd share your optimism if the perenniel blame the ref syndrome hadn't made its way into the club. Hopefully, that's just an example of saying one thing in public while dealing with things like not being able to dominate a tackle or keep composure in when in a close game.

I can see Wigan frustrating us in the wrestle. It's what they do.

Well it ain't going to be easy on Thursday. Theres every chance we could go into the game with up to 4 players on a ban......4 PLAYERS!!!!!! Will we even have 17 fit players. We have been saying things have to change for the last 10 weeks, and nothing appears to have

We have had all season to improve the discipline but it hasn't happened.

Ste, I like Mr Whine

as you refer to him , I know he loves the Banter between the Club's, his nickname at School was the Cardboard Tank

but believe me he's a decent bloke, who like all Leythers is passionate and proud of his hometown.And he loves a p#ss take.

So,what do you really think?

1.The coaching staff are ignoring it?
2.The coaching staff are encouraging it?
3.The coaching staff are working hard to put it right ,but the players are stupid, and don't care if they concede a penalty?
4.Or in many cases, the ref is overzealous in giving penalties for the least minor infringements? And what i mean is, there could be a 100 penalties in a game if every minor incident was penalized.
5. What POA would you have to fix the discipline problem?