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| It has been increasing in volume the 'as yet' rumour that Bradford Bulls James Clare has signed for Leigh.
One rumour suggested that Leigh outbid Cas for his signature & he will be a Centurion player for 2017 at least.
Any opinions on this 'rumoured' signing ?
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| He's ok, adds competition in the back line. There is no deal however, unless the Bulls go in to liquidation.
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| Quote ="THECherry&Whites"He's ok, adds competition in the back line. There is no deal however, unless the Bulls go in to liquidation.'"
Surely failure to pay is a breach of contract , making him and the rest free agents ?
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Surely failure to pay is a breach of contract , making him and the rest free agents ?'"
Bongser seems to recall that in one of BWFC's wobbles, he read that a second failure to pay players made them free agents. Even if recollected correctly this might still be merely a peculiarity of Association Football.
Atomic seems clued in on all things admin, perhaps he'll enlighten us.
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| Quote ="THECherry&Whites"He's ok, adds competition in the back line. There is no deal however, unless the Bulls go in to liquidation.'"
Actually, IF we get bought, then staff and players contracts are TUPE'd over to the new company. But the players and staff don't have to accept the TUPE and can leave for free. It's why Kopczak was able to leave Bradford for Huddersfield
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"Actually, IF we get bought, then staff and players contracts are TUPE'd over to the new company. But the players and staff don't have to accept the TUPE and can leave for free. It's why Kopczak was able to leave Bradford for Huddersfield'"
Thanks Roo2. So, in the event of a TUPE, do existing pay rates get honoured? If, as has been widely speculated on your board, there are parties that are interested in gaining ownership of Odsall (complicated as that is) without having real interest in the club, then surely shedding those, especially higher, salaried staff would be a plus for such a buyer?
All mighty sad.
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| I'd be VERY happy with Clare.
Always looked a class above at Bradford and would probably be under selling himself playing in the Championship.
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| James Clare has signed for us , according to League Express. Good signing.
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| Quote ="Bent&Bongser"Bongser seems to recall that in one of BWFC's wobbles, he read that a second failure to pay players made them free agents. Even if recollected correctly this might still be merely a peculiarity of Association Football.
Atomic seems clued in on all things admin, perhaps he'll enlighten us.'"
I believe it has to be persistent failure to pay you,a one-off missed payment wouldn't really set the ball rolling,breach of contract wise.Two payments missed would be a clear breach of contract.Not sure of the full story concerning the Bulls as in the administrator may have taken on the employment rights of all employees, which might carry different scenarios.
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| The administrator runs the existing company while trying to find a buyer no contracts are moved elsewhere. If he can't find a buyer and he subsequently finds there is no cash to pay the staff then there is little choice other than liquidate the company. It seems no buyer wants to pay the creditors to the point that it is a better option for them than liquidation.
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| Like to wish all the best to James, pity it's come to this, but you guys have got a quality threequarter.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"Like to wish all the best to James, pity it's come to this, but you guys have got a quality threequarter.'"
Very magnanimous, Bulliac. Still nothing officially announced but, if he has been "forced to leave" by present disastrous plight of BD6, Bongser would much rather have him here in Leythe than Cas have him.
Still hoping for a goodish (best that can be hoped for now) outcome for you & your boys. Hope that it doesn't go past a Kilopage!
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| And thanks to both Atomic & Demon for the Clare-ifications
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| No that statement says they are being professional and is NOT saying anything about leigh from how I read it.
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| Indirect implication at any clubs who sign Bulls players offered by agents, plus I suppose Leigh haven't announced anything.
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I'm sure any players still unsure of their future will be delighted at this show of integrity, and that cas aren't just hanging fire till they can join the rest of the vultures.
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I'm sure any players still unsure of their future will be delighted at this show of integrity, and that cas aren't just hanging fire till they can join the rest of the vultures.
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| You might be reading a bit too much into the Cas Tigers statement chaps. I recon it's a reference and a bit of a side-swipe to the Denny Solomona court case and his agent's lack of integrity.
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| Agree Tigerade, and nothing official from our club btw about this "confirmed" signing
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| Cas were all over Clare, Keith. It seems both clubs wanted him subject to how things developed, it also seems he chose Leigh
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| It now seems that any overseas players who had Bulls contracts will not count on the quota if they find employment with another club.
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| Is that for the entirety of the new contract?
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| Doubt it but I didn't pick up any more detail than what I have posted.
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| Plus, does the wage not count on the cap?
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