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| Think this could be the biggest game of my life.
Forget the first two games, KR are Cup Finalists and we had them, Salford with Sheens/Chase were 3rd in the table, now they look that good again I reckon.
We need to get there in numbers on Saturday and do Wakey, which I know we can.
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| Jonny we have not had one of your Polls for ages can we get into SL?Can we beat Wakey on Saturday?Can we win the 4 games needed to get into SL?It can be done but very hard ,Wakey will be hard to beat , as will Bradford and Fax, can we beat the Mutants at their place,there are more questions than answers.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Jonny we have not had one of your Polls for ages
can we get into SL?Can we beat Wakey on Saturday?Can we win the 4 games needed to get into SL?It can be done but very hard ,Wakey will be hard to beat , as will Bradford and Fax, can we beat the Mutants at their place,there are more questions than answers.'"
Hi Ian, How are you doing? hope you're well.We should all also remember that we can finish fifth and still get into SL. All is not gone,so chins up and put the best foot forward.We can still do it.
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| You'll thrash Wakey. They finished bottom don't forget. Leigh by 40.
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| Quote ="Cokey"Hi Ian, How are you doing? hope you're well.We should all also remember that we can finish fifth and still get into SL. All is not gone,so chins up and put the best foot forward.We can still do it.
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Good Evening Derek,I'm feeling pretty good at the moment, though today's result didn't help,I agree it's not the end of the world , and we still have a chance , but time is running out,when we decide to be positive and attack the line we look very dangerous,I wish we did it more often,I never give up hope ,until it's impossible.
As for today?I thought RangI Chase ripped us apart,along with Dobson kicking ,our tackling looked a bit suspect as well but that's how it goes ,onwards and upwards to next Saturday.
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| Quote ="littlerich"You'll thrash Wakey. They finished bottom don't forget. Leigh by 40.'"
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| The owd Wakey team finished bottom not the NEW ONE
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Good Evening Derek,I'm feeling pretty good at the moment, though today's result didn't help,I agree it's not the end of the world , and we still have a chance , but time is running out,when we decide to be positive and attack the line we look very dangerous,I wish we did it more often,I never give up hope ,until it's impossible.
As for today?I thought RangI Chase ripped us apart,along with Dobson kicking ,our tackling looked a bit suspect as well but that's how it goes ,onwards and upwards to next Saturday.'"
Good post Ian. You're right, our defense is really poor at the mo tho.
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| Salford gave a debut to their 41st player of the season last week. Same as Wakefield. I'd say that in Hock, Moi Moi and Mickey Higham you have the higher profile players. Two of whom were brought in to strengthen the team towards the end of the season. Should be a great game next week, certainly the game of the qualifiers so far. Good luck to you.
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| I don't poll much anymore, rarely post. Too many. Warriors about.
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| Quote ="littlerich"You'll thrash Wakey. They finished bottom don't forget. Leigh by 40.'"
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| It's not all doom and gloom!! I reckon you'll beat Wakefield at home next week! We were 16-0 up against them with 5 mins to go in the first half last week, it should have been 22-0 if BJB could of grounded that ball. The difference was they score either side of halftime and along with a chase suicide ball the took the lead with a interception. Then we took control again! Where as Leigh let us go 22-0 up which was always going to be massive to come back from. We are strong at home and haven't lost in 3 months there. Your strong at home as Hull KR found out! Just pipping you. I'm gunna put a bet on a Leigh win!
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| Quote ="DETROITSOUL"The owd Wakey team finished bottom not the NEW ONE'"
Don't buy into this nonsense at all!
Anyone who thinks Moore is better than McShane, Tupou is better than Collis, and a journeyman who couldn't crack the "rah rah" game is better than Chris Riley needs to give their head a serious wobble!!!
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| What utter trash from the Salford fan. On balance wakefield made a few errors in that last 10-15 mins to give up the lead and let Salford off the hook. The scale was very much in Salford favour early on and then on wakefields side till some dumb play and mistakes effectively let Salford take the spoils. Still needed to be won though ofcourse.
Typical one eyed fans view there talking about try's either side of half time? What's your point exactly? They still needed to be scored whatever time. That's like me saying, well Salford scored one very early on. Complete non comment there. Also fact is many points in rugby are scored off the back of penalties or mistakes and Salford capitalised on wakefields late on to win the game. I believe the points that sealed the game for Salford came from field position created by a penalty. So don't pay attention to the Salford fan. Can't be bothered to check name.
Anyway on to this match
Looking forward to this one. Think it will be a good game. I doubt it will be as easy as the Bulls game too.
It's true there are player movements in wakefield (like Salford) but it's been one in one out and majority of which well before the qualifiers. Brian smith got a broken wakey team. He's patched it up and made some changes to fix it within the rules of the sport.
Gutted I can't make it to leigh but I'm trying to Atleast finish work early so I can catch on sky!
As a wakey fan I won't be taking leigh lightly. You finished top of your league and can play some rugby. The major change is we are now starting to look more organised and the mentality and application of players has been built on since smith took the reigns with small improvements here and there.
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| Quote The major change is we are now starting to look more organised and the mentality and application of players has been built on since smith took the reigns with small improvements here and there.'"
Courtesy of your salary cap.Nothing more.
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| Don't all clubs have a salary cap relative to their league?
I'm sorry but if your trying to make a point I have missed it
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| Quote ="atomic"Courtesy of your salary cap.Nothing more.'"
I don't think a salary cap has anything to do with a team becoming more organised
Oh and we are spending the same now as we were in May, which isn't up to the cap as you have probably already seen as it has been publically stated many times.
Id say its more to do with the appointment of Brian Smith at the club.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Don't all clubs have a salary cap relative to their league?
I'm sorry but if your trying to make a point I have missed it'"
And what's the salary cap relative to the league we are both in now.Not really a level playing field is it!
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| Quote ="salford sport"It's not all doom and gloom!! I reckon you'll beat Wakefield at home next week! We were 16-0 up against them with 5 mins to go in the first half last week, it should have been 22-0 if BJB could of grounded that ball. The difference was they score either side of halftime and along with a chase suicide ball the took the lead with a interception. Then we took control again! Where as Leigh let us go 22-0 up which was always going to be massive to come back from. We are strong at home and haven't lost in 3 months there. Your strong at home as Hull KR found out! Just pipping you. I'm gunna put a bet on a Leigh win!'"
Your right had BJB scored it would of been 22 0 but he didnt score due a good tackle and been put into touch.in fact had our centre passed to his winger with 8 mins to go you would of lost the game end of so wakey arnt that bad yes you was better team by far in first half but not the second
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| Quote ="atomic"And what's the salary cap relative to the league we are both in now.Not really a level playing field is it!'"
Its been a very long time since team sport had a level playing field. Name me one other sport that funds lower tier teams the same amount as the premier teams.
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| Quote ="atomic"And what's the salary cap relative to the league we are both in now.Not really a level playing field is it!'"
Correct, it's not - so it's very hard to compete. Although, I didn't hear many people saying this when you were lifting the Championship league leaders shield a few weeks ago - some very positive posts instead about your chances of promotion.
I said at the time (and got slated) that Leigh's defence was suspect against good teams and hasn't been tested enough this year, it's proved the case in the first 2 games, and it looks like Wakefield are starting to improve. But as stated elsewhere, you are more than capable of beating all the Championship teams to get you in the mix, then it's all down to a one off game, which Leigh have a good recent record.
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| Quote ="atomic"And what's the salary cap relative to the league we are both in now.Not really a level playing field is it!'"
Dumdest point in a generally dumb thread.
Where on earth does it state that there is a level playing field. What are you suggesting, that the bottom 4 SL teams go part time and shed half their players - get real.
As for the general argument regarding recruitment, Wakefield can sign who they want when the want finances permitting. That said the squad is pretty much the same in terms os cost and quality as it was at the start of the season. However the new players seem to suit our needs far more. When a coach like Brian Smith joins you he's bound to make changes or are you denying him that option?
If it's any consolation our defence is still a little fragile and as yet we have not managed the full 80 minutes. Also you've played and beaten us once so you know the drill - anyones game still IMHO.
BUT NO EXCUSES PLEASE.
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| Quote ="vastman"Dumdest point in a generally dumb thread.
Where on earth does it state that there is a level playing field. What are you suggesting, that the bottom 4 SL teams go part time and shed half their players - get real.
As for the general argument regarding recruitment, Wakefield can sign who they want when the want finances permitting. That said the squad is pretty much the same in terms os cost and quality as it was at the start of the season. However the new players seem to suit our needs far more. When a coach like Brian Smith joins you he's bound to make changes or are you denying him that option?
If it's any consolation our defence is still a little fragile and as yet we have not managed the full 80 minutes. Also you've played and beaten us once so you know the drill - anyones game still IMHO.
BUT NO EXCUSES PLEASE.'"
No, we beat Super League Wakefield, this is Middle Eights Wakefield
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| Quote ="vastman"Dumdest point in a generally dumb thread.
Where on earth does it state that there is a level playing field. What are you suggesting, that the bottom 4 SL teams go part time and shed half their players - get real.
As for the general argument regarding recruitment, Wakefield can sign who they want when the want finances permitting. That said the squad is pretty much the same in terms os cost and quality as it was at the start of the season. However the new players seem to suit our needs far more. When a coach like Brian Smith joins you he's bound to make changes or are you denying him that option?
If it's any consolation our defence is still a little fragile and as yet we have not managed the full 80 minutes. Also you've played and beaten us once so you know the drill - anyones game still IMHO.
BUT NO EXCUSES PLEASE.'"
Why's wanting to talk about the game a "dumb thread"?
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| Alot of emphasis seems to be on salary cap, but forgetting Wakey are/were operating on the lowest budget in Super League by quite a bit. Wakey even offloaded some of the higher earners, and replaced them with players who are either on loan or probably on less than their predecessors. So I dare say are now on an even lower salary budget than earlier in the season. Pretty weak argument in my opinion.
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